no comment. test for me....... LOL


you should reasonable patch that all condition trigger. That's why i think your all ments are only excuse.


oh, i find your shit fragile just 3 minutes, so i think it isn't waste of time yeah?




no comment.

I thought you were a total noob, so my bad your not a total noob but still a noob with some knowledge.

Also I make no excuses, If I thought you would have just patched it soon after the release then I wouldn't have bothered but it did take you a while and because of that I still lol.

I think you have proven to me you cant do shit in 3 minutes, more like several hours+ work lol, and you don't find no 'fragile' point in my work you only end up using another trigger where my code has not yet hooked. How about you do one of your maps where my code has hooked the death trigger and lets see if you can work your way around that? me and you both know you can't and thats why you must use another trigger where my code is not hooked.


^ like I said there. You can deny it all you like but you have been owned, so keep thinking your top shit all you like.

why you think? you have to sevral hours about checking trigger condition?
and you wanna say i only patched trigger where you aren't hook, so that means i'm looser and you will shit lol?
what a nice way of thinking Zyn

i really anxious why you hypersensitive my post.. lol

OK Zyn, i really expect shit update ZynMapHack v1.0.7

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jan 20 2009, 10:44 am by Maps.

You don't seem very intelligent, and like I said before my last update had you going for a bit where as all the others you had updated several hours after making your first post. Also no, it doest take me several hours, the last one I probably worked on for 30 minutes but the one before that was like 5 minutes and before that about 10 minutes, so really no more than 15 minutes messing around and writing the code for each of your updates.

Also from checking this morning quickly in trigger viewer it looks like you done the same thing I would have and if thats the case then this trigger wouldn't work with older versions of my maphack, you would need to include another. Are you gonna go fix now? lol.

And yeah, because you are now using another trigger where I have not hooked its obvious you have nothing new so I win. I can simply go though all the triggers and patch them or let your noob ass waste time so I don't have to and slowly get them all patched

you say you win yourself, and may you feel so good? i guess you say 'no'.

Haha, Zynastor, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of possible cases you'd have to individually patch.
You seem a little arrogant. I mean, saying Maps is wasting his time is just rude and stupid.

This is just like Protection vs Unprotection. The perfect unprotection can beat the perfect protection, however, it's been YEARS and the perfect unprotection has not yet been created.

So in relation, it would take you years to patch every case. Not only that, but protection methods have much less possible cases.

Where did you get the idea of hundreds? lol, obviously you have no clue so don't even bother with trying to have a say in this argument and make yourself look like a noob.

lol you think Heinermann has no clue? wow.

Someone is indeed a little arrogant. ;o

Would it be possible to make an anti-hack that changes various places to values so that if those AREN'T changed, he's hacking? I'm not sure what Zynastor's hooks do, but if they are blocking the REAL changes that should be made for all players as well as the changes that should not be, this is possible.

Also, is making 1000's of "fake" anti-hack triggers viable?

Yes, but for one, it slows the download of the map, and two, it's not really that worth it.

Maps, I think the best choice would be to create an anti-map hack client, as it will be easier to update, the problem with this current solution is that all it takes is one update to his hacks and all the maps released with your anti hack become obsolete.

Zynastor, recently it was shown that EUDs can reach any section of SC memory, and I'm betting you've made at least 100 changes inside of SCs memory, which can be detected via EUDs.

I don't think a trigger takes that much space... if it is really undetectable unless he goes through all of the triggers, unless Zynastor is a bigger loser than he seems to be we will have anti-hacks that work.

He just trying to do something what he knew. It's not looks like a noob, dude.

Yes of course I think he has no clue, his a noob trying to argue with an experienced gamehacker saying I am wrong when I have reversed starcraft and know for a fact that there is roughly about 20 or so possible functions that can be used. The guy only wishes there was hundreds of different ways, but he is wrong.


Of course I know these EUDs can reach any section of SC's memory and it doesn't matter how much patches I make because I have created something ages ago that handles everything I need with my patches including saving the old bytes so I am able to connect to b.net with my hack loaded by removing all patches or return the correct bytes for warden if it has detected one of my patches. I also use something similar to what I have done with warden for the EUDs so it doesn't matter if you make some triggers that detect every single patch in my hack, none will work and once I have gone through and hooked the necessary functions then this method will become completely useless.

So like I said before, there is no way around my fix with this EUD method unless you use another trigger that calls a different function where my code has not hooked and it wont take to long before I have them all covered.

Actually you have no clue about who your are talking about.

Your right I have no clue who he is and I don't really care, the guy obviously made himself look like a noob and I don't need to care what he thinks because I know I am correct.

You think you're correct.

The memory in question doesn't need to be something your useless hack directly modifies. Additionally, I assume you don't quite understand the full capability of these "extended conditions (and actions)".

You obviously care what I think, because you will reply to my post.

Oh yeah, I suppose you consider everyone below your "skill level" is a noob, so it doesn't bother me.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jan 21 2009, 3:04 pm by Heinermann.

You know you're talking to the guy that discovered EUDs right?

Don't get all upset by calling my hack useless now, lol. Of course there are other methods like Moto has shown and they can easily be fixed. A hack running on the client will always be more powerful than what can be done with a map but noobs like you just don't realize this.

Map hacks are useless to people looking for ways to enhance game play, which is what most real hackers do.
I understand the power of hacks running on the client. I also understand the limitless creativity that can be applied to Starcraft maps. You do not.

There you go with the noob thing again. Seeing as you're an "experienced game hacker", some people would think you were a bit more mature.

BTW, what games have you hacked(aside from Starcraft) to make yourself a self-proclaimed "experienced game hacker"?