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Creator: lil-Inferno
Time: Mar 24 2008, 3:20 pm
 stickynote May 10 2008, 12:14 am Post #401
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Removed a little bit of clutter.

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 FooFighters[WP] May 10 2008, 12:20 am Post #402
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I hate how clutter interfers with the stuff that is very important
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 stickynote May 10 2008, 2:14 am Post #403
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It doesn't interfere, but I'm not really sure what you mean by that. I made all the terrain I wanted to make in that area, then put the clutter in. If you're talking about walkability, it's almost fully walkable.
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 lil-Inferno May 10 2008, 2:17 am Post #404
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People automatically shout out that Terrain is cluttered if it's heavily doodaded, I've notice that. Sorry guys for being a lazy fart and not updating the ladder. I'll do it tomorrow.
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 Jello-Jigglers May 10 2008, 2:22 am Post #405
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People automatically shout out that Terrain is cluttered if it's heavily doodaded, I've notice that.
That's because it really does look awful... You can't build on doodads, and it changes unit pathing, and it makes battles feel cramped.

It's a little better but not perfect, LESS DOODADS... :-_-:
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 stickynote May 10 2008, 2:25 am Post #406
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They are terrain, and this is a snipers-style map, so I don't need a whole ton of room.
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 Number08 May 10 2008, 4:08 am Post #407
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i believe most of them arent doodads, they are part of a terrain
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 Jello-Jigglers May 10 2008, 12:28 pm Post #408
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They are terrain, and this is a snipers-style map, so I don't need a whole ton of room.
lol doodads and terrain are basically the same thing. You just took the tiles from the doodads and then added sprites on the rocks i guess. :-_-: Either way, it bugs the units. Dont bother the units! :lol: (if it's a sniper-style map, wouldn't you actually want them to be doodads so they provide cover?? jmo)
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 Killer_Kow[MM] May 10 2008, 1:49 pm Post #409
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You can't build on doodads,

Like, 90% of the doodads people use are walkable and buildable. I hate when people say this.
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 Falkoner May 10 2008, 4:22 pm Post #410
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Yeah, all the doodads he used were buildable, those little grass tufts are 100% walkable and buildable. And so are most of the skeletons.
 Rawr May 10 2008, 5:47 pm Post #411
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stickynote just gained +10 respect for his sexy terrain.
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 Jello-Jigglers May 10 2008, 6:11 pm Post #412
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You can't build on doodads,

Like, 90% of the doodads people use are walkable and buildable. I hate when people say this.
Don't treat me like I'm stupid I know what I'm saying. He uses multiple rock styles and the tree and the vespen geyser all of which aren't buildable or walkable. ;) and the cliff faces are so cramped those units are gonna look retareded when their running through there. The functionality of the piece fails miserably, sorry. Just laying it out there.
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 Falkoner May 10 2008, 7:01 pm Post #413
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The tree is a sprite, and therefore causes no problems, one of the rocks is also a sprite, causing no problems, but nonetheless, you are right about it being a tiny area, it really isn't super functional, although, neither are most of these pieces, they just look really nice.
 Jello-Jigglers May 10 2008, 7:13 pm Post #414
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The tree is a sprite, and therefore causes no problems, one of the rocks is also a sprite, causing no problems, but nonetheless, you are right about it being a tiny area, it really isn't super functional, although, neither are most of these pieces, they just look really nice.

Maybe the top half of the rock is a sprite, but the bottom half has to be tiles, which is 2x2 space units cant walk. And I wouldn't even go so far as to say it looks nice lol the improper height makes me wanna gag.
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 stickynote May 10 2008, 11:59 pm Post #415
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Then please do so.
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 Number08 May 11 2008, 4:25 am Post #416
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I dont know whats so bad about improper height
and besides when i look at it, it looks fine.
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 Falkoner May 11 2008, 6:28 am Post #417
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Uh...

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 Jello-Jigglers May 11 2008, 3:02 pm Post #418
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Then please do so.
Lose that attitude, you're just making yourself look bad. I'm offering criticism to ADD to your terrain, not make the current stuff look bad. And I'm not half as harsh as WF so just relax :)
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 Falkoner May 11 2008, 3:54 pm Post #419
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Yeah, but Wooden wouldn't be complaining about improper terrain height, since he is a master of it. :P
 Jello-Jigglers May 11 2008, 9:01 pm Post #420
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Haha true true. But he'll pick your blends APART lol! :lol:
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