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[2014-12-04. : 6:14 pm]
jjf28 -- it is just code... doesn't mean neo can acquire the sudden mental fluidity to do something like wrap the head around in the way he's thinking without breaking it, some clipping, etc. this is where we get "that's a bit unrealistic" and "it's a movie", and that's where the discussion ends :kame:
[2014-12-04. : 6:10 pm]
NudeRaider -- Well when you see Neo in the "Matrix dimension" you see the code forming the walls and stuff (of course not like source code, but making up geometric shapes since it's for a movie and needs to be presented visually pleasing). And everything they do manipulate, like dialing numbers to teleport or get weapons is done on a computer terminal, apparently by entering code. How is it not supported that the spoon is also just code?
[2014-12-04. : 6:10 pm]
jjf28 -- hence, "it's a reach"
[2014-12-04. : 6:06 pm]
jjf28 -- it's not absurd, it's possible, but not well supported
[2014-12-04. : 6:06 pm]
NudeRaider -- you dont get it, why is my version so absurd in your eyes?
[2014-12-04. : 6:05 pm]
NudeRaider -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: NudeRaider naw, NudeRaider NudeRaider is a reach
well fine if you think so. I never gave it much thought (even thought you were joking at first because it's so obvious imo) and automatically assumed it's what's happening. So if you think I'm reading too much into it what do you get from the movie? Since you said you don
[2014-12-04. : 6:05 pm]
jjf28 -- and for the record i've read the theories on the movie being a strict computer analogy, and I say bleh, they find what they look for
[2014-12-04. : 6:02 pm]
jjf28 -- yet another reason we need saved shoutbox edit text, then quotes from other pages could be appended to it on click :)
[2014-12-04. : 5:56 pm]
jjf28 -- yeah there we go
[2014-12-04. : 5:56 pm]
jjf28 -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: - if that were the case i'd just think away chunks of agents >>> That's exactly what Neo does when he fights 1000 Smiths.
?
[2014-12-04. : 5:56 pm]
jjf28 -- hmm, second quote wasn't correct
[2014-12-04. : 5:55 pm]
jjf28 -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: jjf28 -- playing the "its a movie" card while crafting elaborate arguments about it? shame. >>> Actually I just explained the basic premise of the movie. And yes, a SciFi movie gets to have a hero with super powers. It's not "playing the movie card". It's not a documentation and needs to be realistic. It just needs to make sense.
naw, NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: I can believe till it snows in Dorne, won't perfectly rearrange the bits in exactly the manner i'm thinking of without extensive training >>> Well believing doesn't do the trick, it's the requirement. And yes it makes no sense, that's why Neo is "the one" - the only one who can do it. It's a fucking movie...
NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: All the fancy fight scenes are jsut a representation for the viewer. In reality it's just programs trying to delete each other. Neo being the only human to be able to alter anything besides himself.
is a reach
[2014-12-04. : 5:42 pm]
Roy -- There was also a map using EUDs to detect lockdown, but the name eludes me.
[2014-12-04. : 5:38 pm]
Roy -- sdery23
sdery23 shouted: just recently heard about this thing called EUD's. I read through some of your tutorial, roy. Any maps you'd reccomend to look at besides dodgeball? (already saw dball)
You mean Fireball? There are a handful of maps that use EUDs. A couple submissions in a quick mapping contest use them, Dem0nS1ayer Bound uses EUDAs, and Middle of the Ocean 3 uses EUPs.
[2014-12-04. : 4:37 pm]
KooKsTeR -- Excalibur
Excalibur shouted: Kookster was here? :O
*is here.
[2014-12-04. : 3:52 pm]
NudeRaider -- Oh and swap "makes no sense" into "isn't realistic" when I was talking about what Neo can do earlier.
[2014-12-04. : 3:49 pm]
NudeRaider -- jjf28 -- playing the "its a movie" card while crafting elaborate arguments about it? shame. >>> Actually I just explained the basic premise of the movie. And yes, a SciFi movie gets to have a hero with super powers. It's not "playing the movie card". It's not a documentation and needs to be realistic. It just needs to make sense.
[2014-12-04. : 3:25 pm]
NudeRaider -- not my cup of tea, but I believe the bounders, touhou-ers and rhythm game lovers of SEN might enjoy it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smgstudio.onemoreline&hl=de
[2014-12-04. : 2:55 pm]
sdery23 -- just recently heard about this thing called EUD's. I read through some of your tutorial, roy. Any maps you'd reccomend to look at besides dodgeball? (already saw dball)
[2014-12-04. : 2:14 pm]
Wing Zero -- :rob:
[2014-12-04. : 12:37 pm]
TF- -- sunt normal io.
[2014-12-04. : 12:10 pm]
Excalibur -- Kookster was here? :O
[2014-12-04. : 11:17 am]
Devourer -- Kookster :O
[2014-12-04. : 10:43 am]
Moose -- :ban:
[2014-12-04. : 10:41 am]
Roy -- No partying allowed on the SEN campus.
[2014-12-04. : 10:38 am]
Moose -- :lock:
[2014-12-04. : 10:38 am]
RIVE -- :wob:
[2014-12-04. : 10:37 am]
RIVE -- Ehhhh, huh? wat? Party?
[2014-12-04. : 10:31 am]
Moose -- Damn it, Sac, you woke the rest of them up. Now nobody can party.
[2014-12-04. : 10:20 am]
Moose -- Ah, fuck it, you can party, too.
[2014-12-04. : 10:20 am]
Moose -- Go back to bed, Sac, me and Roy are talking
[2014-12-04. : 10:19 am]
Sacrieur -- did you say party!
[2014-12-04. : 10:15 am]
Moose -- Roy, let's have a party while the rest of SEN is asleep
[2014-12-04. : 10:14 am]
Moose -- :wob:
[2014-12-04. : 9:31 am]
Riney -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvlaWO1mXM Cause fuck you deal with it. :3
[2014-12-04. : 9:18 am]
Jack -- With C++ I can pretend I'm still using C but take advantage of C++ stuff when I want to
[2014-12-04. : 9:16 am]
Jack -- moose I prefer C++ to Java
[2014-12-04. : 9:16 am]
Jack -- I missed all the programming talk :(
[2014-12-04. : 8:28 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- :wob:
[2014-12-04. : 8:04 am]
KooKsTeR -- night
[2014-12-04. : 8:04 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- anyway, bye. I should get ready for bed
[2014-12-04. : 8:04 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- er, aren't ... they clip with the floor since they are all based at 0 and not the heightmap
[2014-12-04. : 8:03 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- the second one has a heightmap, but I just used a mostly flat texture since none of the objects are adjusted for it ...
[2014-12-04. : 8:03 am]
KooKsTeR -- well later today
[2014-12-04. : 8:03 am]
KooKsTeR -- we should continue this conversation tomorrow
[2014-12-04. : 8:03 am]
KooKsTeR -- ok i gtg for real now
[2014-12-04. : 8:02 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I made the trees and bushes myself :awesome:
[2014-12-04. : 8:02 am]
KooKsTeR -- thats sweet
[2014-12-04. : 8:02 am]
KooKsTeR -- but its a start
[2014-12-04. : 8:02 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- the second one you can run around and eat berries off of some of the bushes
[2014-12-04. : 8:02 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- They are by no means impressive. :P http://i.snag.gy/YRVz5.jpg http://i.snag.gy/4rRAt.jpg
[2014-12-04. : 8:02 am]
KooKsTeR -- o gosh physics
[2014-12-04. : 8:02 am]
KooKsTeR -- i didnt see them
[2014-12-04. : 8:02 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- waaaaaaaay too much math that's already been made, optimized, and dealt with. I don't need to worry about learning all that maths. xD
[2014-12-04. : 8:02 am]
KooKsTeR -- can you repaste the links
[2014-12-04. : 8:01 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- ... I got a physics library though, because I'm not touching that. xD
[2014-12-04. : 8:01 am]
KooKsTeR -- but a lot more rewarding too
[2014-12-04. : 8:01 am]
KooKsTeR -- well thats a lot more work for sure
[2014-12-04. : 8:01 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- those screenshots I linked to are with OpenGL and no other existing libraries xD
[2014-12-04. : 8:00 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'd rather make my own instead of within minecraft
[2014-12-04. : 8:00 am]
KooKsTeR -- its just more fun with others
[2014-12-04. : 8:00 am]
KooKsTeR -- its a lot of fun
[2014-12-04. : 8:00 am]
KooKsTeR -- i code on my server and make games within minecraft
[2014-12-04. : 8:00 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- scripting like what? I've done lots of scripting, programming, and coding :P
[2014-12-04. : 8:00 am]
KooKsTeR -- seriously dude you should look at method script
[2014-12-04. : 8:00 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'd like to make games .. Really I'd like to make anything, but games seem to be the most rewarding :P
[2014-12-04. : 8:00 am]
KooKsTeR -- are you familiar with any scripting languages??
[2014-12-04. : 7:59 am]
KooKsTeR -- thats what i am trying to do. Just more specific kind of dev
[2014-12-04. : 7:59 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I've tried to get him to get back in to it, and showing him the stuff I was programming got him excited for a little bit, but then it quickly dissipated
[2014-12-04. : 7:59 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I should try to assemble a proper development team ... I have a friend who is super good at any sort of art and modelling, but just kind of never does it :\

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