Yeah, that is convincing.... I too vote Nude for Lynch

Getting swept away in this topic, but I would like to say a few things:

-When I took myself off the mafia statistics list, I did not just strike my name off the final count. I removed myself from the pool of potential mafia, meaning I removed something like 75 combinations of six mafia that would involve me. The lowers everyone else's totals respectively, and gives more accurate data given that I am not mafia. I can only continue to claim I'm not mafia here.

-DO NOT CONFIDE A ROLE IN SOMEONE FOR AN "ALLIANCE"! The Detective is much too important this game to confide in anyone other than a safely clean mayor. Nerdy set up his fancy little cartel last game, and look what happened. Bang, bang, bang, they all died. The success of this game relies on a either a mayor-detective or a mayor and detective working together with statistics and data input to get to the mafia as quickly as possible. Sadly to say, the rest of the town can't do much.

I'm going to say it's better off to vote NudeRaider for mayor, because I hope we can all trust that he is not mafia by virtue of his MID (assuming Moose does not rerole). The Detective should confide in him, and they can work together (Nude can publicize Detective's findings). Whoever is mayor should NEVER give away his bodyguards, because doctor protection is not worth it this game with power kill. It's not worth leaking the secret of the bodyguards to anyone.

I vote NudeRaider for mayor.

Perhaps my life will be forfeit for foregoing protection, but I hope you will all trust Nude more than you would trust me. I'll admit, I'm a tricksy person

It is not a given that you are a townsperson though. And I know you didn't just strike it from final count.


In case you didn't notice: since you didn't get lynched instead of l)ark because you were lucky as shit, the town was going to win the game (due to imba game, but regardless) "Statistics and data" -- that's the biggest BS I've ever heard. There is a lot more to it. There's also a lot more to getting a clean mayor, it could take days for that to happen. Regardless, I already went over why detective needs to be careful to the umpteenth.


If we're going to vote for a guy just because of their ID #, then let's at least vote for the best player of that bunch, CHUI -- BY FAR. And... WTF??!?!?! Hang on a second:


Ok, umm, contradiction much? The only way a mayor is proven clean and safe enough for a detective to confide in the mayor is when the detective checks dead bodies and sees that the mayor has owned at least 1 mafia already, majorly on his own (a day 1 mayor solo lynch on mafia would do it, unless it was done on someone we can easily see the mafia would consider useless). Nude isn't any more trust worthy than anyone else that has been exchanging their roles with others behind the scenes.


You do realize that ANYONE can use the math of the # clue's now that it's out there, right? There is not a single premise that NudeRaider offers which isn't trumped by another candidate -- period.

My case for being an all but proven townie:

Why. The. Hell. Would. Moose. Go. Out. Of. His. Way. To. Fix. The. 'Town Alliance'. Exploit. If. The. Person. Planning. On. Using. It. Wasn't. A. Townie. If it was a mafia doing it, that'd be proof enough that it's not an exploit. Think about it, if a mafia was starting the 'only townies know townie link message' alliance, then why would moose have any reason to do anything? It'd already be shown that anyone can get their hands on the link message.

I RUN FOR MAYOR AGAIN.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Feb 27 2008, 7:22 am by Dapperdan.

If chui decided to make a massive campaign for mayor, I might vote for him. In the meantime, I take it for granted the three people with big enough member IDs are safe. You're just jealous, I think.

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Ok, umm, contradiction much?

I support ONE role share, and ONE only - Detective and a mayor with MID > 786. This game is all math and statistics because of the number clue and the general inability to know right away whether a mafia was lynched or not.

You're playing the 'jealous' card? Is this a joke?


Umm, contradiction much? GJ putting all your eggs in one basket. If this clue which we have no proof of it's truth with, turns out to be wrong, and we listen to what you say to do, then guess what, it's GG town. It's too fucking risky, and there's no reason to be so risky. The town can still win without detective(s) reporting to MID > 863 (786...?), but I'd have much more doubts about the town still having an at all reasonable chance to win if the detective(s) report to a mafia mayor just because they have MID > 863. Not only is it risky, but it's a completely unnecessary risk. I already have a solid list of level 2 (upgraded suspicion) mafia suspects without any math, omg it's possible!?!?

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This might be the only way for me to stay alive, considering I'm already a prime target for mafia for numerous reasons. But I'm not the campaigning type. Vote for me if you want but Nude has free beer and DD has experience. I just have a bunch of quick deaths.

Probably the best campaign speech I've ever heard chui.

There's really no way to tell is Nude or Dapper a mafia, so i'll change my vote to Dapperdan because of his experience.

I think I might run for mayor... Thoughts?

I believe in the clue giving us 3 innocents, so I don't care who of us 3 becomes mayor (though chuiu really may be the best choice because of secondary attributes).

It is important that we ALL trust our Mayor. So for all the people who were voting for me JUST because of the # clue, pls change your vote to chuiu.

I vote for chuiu too.

@Dapperdan: At this point, no one is really trust worthy. Most of this game is going to be based on friendships...
There's really no point in accusing anyone right now unless you have some decent clues to back them up.
Right now, basically everyone can be a suspected mafia member. It's basically down to who you can trust, and most people usually trust their friends.
I'm not asking anyone to vote for me, that doesn't really matter to me. I also agree with IP, I probably won't be active enough to be mayor.

I'm going to truthfully say I'm townie-aligned. Believe me or not, that's up to you.

About friendships? Then I'll die first. xD

You were a townie last game, and know the message that townies get.

Dan was mafia...

I change my vote to chu.

As I continually try to say (so why did you ask for detective?), although I do find my case very unique.


It's not really accusing yet, it's just making notes.


Fair point.


Definitely not active enough.


First -- you ignored the entire argument. Maybe you should also look back at the warnings that Moose made to me 'based on what he knows of my plan', which is pretty clearly something he wouldn't do against a mafia trying to start the plan. Second, I was mafia last game.

That's JaFF and I. Come on guys. It's not very hard to figure out. Moose even said a successful townie alliance was starting.

Vote Count

Paravin. :: NudeRaider
isolatedpurity :: NudeRaider
Zycorax :: Dapperdan
JaFF :: Dapperdan
JordanN :: NudeRaider
Loveless :: Dapperdan
Greo :: NudeRaider
NerdyTerdy :: WoAHorde
A_of-s_t :: WoAHorde
cheeze :: NudeRaider
// 10
l)ark_ssj9kevin :: WoAHorde (3)
Dapperdan :: NerdyTerdy
Darkling :: NerdyTerdy
WoAHorde :: NerdyTerdy
EzDay281 :: NudeRaider (6)
Dark_Marine_123 :: NerdyTerdy (4)
Heegu :: Dapperdan
NudeRaider :: chui
DT_Battlekruser :: chui (2)
Vi3t-X :: Dapperdan (5)
// 20

20 of 30 votes are in.

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Feb 27 2008, 8:20 pm by Dapperdan.

Well according to my promise made earlier, Dapperdan has recieved 4 votes, so now, I too vote for him. If anyone objects otherwise, please contact me via PM.

My vote goes to NudeRaider if he'll generate possible combo lists for 4 Mafias and 3 Mafias.