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Desync At Map Start
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Jun 13 2010, 10:17 pm
By: Warlord_Master  

Jun 13 2010, 10:17 pm Warlord_Master Post #1



My Map 50% of time drops a player from the game at start. Random players regardless of position. I only have 5 EUD triggers

Trigger("Sniper"){
Conditions:
Memory(12723, Exactly, 16777216);
Bring("All players", "Power Generator", "Gateway Disable 1 Scarab", At least, 1);
Switch("Level 2", set);

Actions:
Minimap Ping("Gateway Disable 1 Scarab");
Preserve Trigger();
Comment("Gateway 1");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Sniper"){
Conditions:
Memory(12723, Exactly, 16777216);
Bring("All players", "Power Generator", "Gateway Disable 2", At least, 1);
Switch("Level 2", set);

Actions:
Minimap Ping("Gateway Disable 2");
Preserve Trigger();
Comment("Gateway 2");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Trigger("Sniper"){
Conditions:
Memory(12723, Exactly, 16777216);
Bring("All players", "Power Generator", "Gateway Disable 3", At least, 1);
Switch("Level 2", set);

Actions:
Minimap Ping("Gateway Disable 3");
Preserve Trigger();
Comment("Gateway 3");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
Trigger("Sniper"){
Conditions:
Memory(12723, Exactly, 16777216);
Bring("All players", "Terran Machine Shop", "Add On", At least, 1);
Switch("level 5", set);

Actions:
Minimap Ping("Add On");
Preserve Trigger();
Comment("Add On Ping");
}
Trigger("Sniper"){
Conditions:
Memory(12723, Exactly, 16777216);
Switch("level 8", set);

Actions:
Minimap Ping("Key For Trojan");
Preserve Trigger();
Comment("ULTRALISK PING LEVEL 8");
}

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//

Attachments:
Sniper Warlord.scx
Hits: 1 Size: 945.21kb

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jun 13 2010, 10:23 pm by Warlord_Master.



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Jun 13 2010, 11:53 pm Heinermann Post #2

SDE, BWAPI owner, hacker.

This is just my take, but I think executing triggers that only run for a single player can disrupt trigger flow and eventually desync.
Either that, or Minimap ping is accessing some type of randomizer (the last random number is used to synchronize the game).




Jun 14 2010, 12:24 am Warlord_Master Post #3



the mini map pings dont take effect until later on in the game.... at start of game, you can select easy normal or hard, it drops even if you do nothing and i dont believe i added triggers that run for players until the game starts unless you mean the computer is disrupting the trigger flow



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Jun 14 2010, 12:42 am Azrael Post #4



I would look through your triggers if you didn't comment all of them. Get a tester to help you, and try deleting your EUD triggers and see if it still causes desync. If it does, try deleting all the units on the map and see if it continues. If there is still desync, start deleting triggers a handful at a time until it stops, then you know what's causing it.

Your best bet in solving the problem is being sure of what's causing it.




Jun 14 2010, 1:19 am Warlord_Master Post #5



im unable to verify because it does not always happen, it happens consecutively and then stops.. I was in channel op sen with Aristocrat, Tikels, Sacrieur and the drops happen each game i was with them, 3-4 times. I Host in public, the last 10 games no drops...................................



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Jun 14 2010, 2:05 am Sacrieur Post #6

Still Napping

We told him to post it here because testing gave us no real basis for a diagnosis, other than that it is random.

But yeah, you're going to have to start deleting triggers.



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Jun 14 2010, 5:17 am Warlord_Master Post #7



my mission briefing occasionally freezes, is that related or is that a seperate issue from the one im having?
8% of time mission brief freezes in public game........ how do i know if i found the problem by deleting triggers if the drop is random?
an example is if one game somebody drops, the game following somebody usually drops again and again. i dont understand random consecutive drops..

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jun 14 2010, 5:53 am by Warlord_Master.



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Jun 14 2010, 9:15 am NudeRaider Post #8

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

Maybe SENners are doing something different from pubs. Tell them to deactivate hacks and loaders and try again.
Or it's a user action. For example units with 0 build time can drop, but don't necessarily do so every time.




Jun 14 2010, 6:31 pm CecilSunkure Post #9



In my experiences, random drops like this can occur from something with screen position over specific terrain. In one map I created that was an impossible scenarios map, when the screen centered over a specific patch of terrain in a certain position, players would drop. I found this out after hunting for the problem for a while. I nulled out that terrain, and remade it by hand, and the drops ceased to exist. So what I'm saying is that you should try and take note of screen position when people drop, if possible. I was able to do this because people would drop around a specific level.



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Jun 17 2010, 3:21 am Warlord_Master Post #10



I eventually found a post on staredit with a similar question to mine: http://www.staredit.net/topic/9791/
At start of game, i had a bunker enter ai script and dropship enter ai script. I delayed the bunker enter ai script and people still dropped. Then maybe i thought the dropship somehow caused desync so I delayed the dropship enter ai script and now I have tested over 60 games perfectly
so sometimes the dropship/bunker can cause desync....



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