So we're talking 3vmech? Sigh. Mech should lose regardless of spawn, if it's 3v1.
Sigh. i guess i have to break it down EVEN MORE.
END GAME, mech rapes Rine,Bat,
DM, o Rine, Bat, or Bat,
DM. With spawn however he cannot win GET IT? max mana mech will lose vs MASS SPAWN, however if they try to kill him THEY WILL LOSE, because incidently he counters ALL THREE.
I main DM, and I always win VS mech late game. Always. Don't even fight me on this one.
Hey man, I totally love bashing bads and noobs myself! Did I tell you the story of how my LM totally raped this medic?!
I never said the DM rapes mech i said the DM is hard to kill, personally i would see a double l3 coming from a mile away and prepare accordingly.
Yes, prepare by being oneshotted by endgame mech because he can outrange you perfectly and you have no avenue of escape from his 20-25+ Upgrade tanks of rape.
If you let a DM get L4 and 300+ mana you will have a hard time killing him.
EDIT: unless your a rine with a ton of mana and l3
If you know what you doing, then no, shes not hard to kill. I gave all the reasons why she falls to mech. I don't see how someone is hard to take down when you can Outrange DM, Out DPS DM, OneShot DM, Outfarm DM, OutHarass, Outmaneuver DM, Out HP DM, Mass Sim the DM , OutManuals The DM, Outspawn the DM, Mapcontrol DM, Unmaelable, Outarmor her ONLY DPS Spell. Now with all those advantages that Mech posesses, how does any of this resemble difficult?
This is a Slam Dunk for Mech, not hard at all. Get your mind correct.
Sniper rifle helps, but once he has Mine drone its gg, shes confined and cannot do anything, and will promptly be spawn raped to death. Pro DM probably wouldnt let it get to endgame vs rine anyways, its a toss up here mostly in DM's favor.
If the opponent is going power rine, he won't have enough mana for mines every wave and you will just end up splashing all the spawns. Also, rine won't have enough mana for 6 mines every wave, even if he goes pure mana. If you can kill at least 50% of your team's spawn EVERY time, and kill 60% of the enemy team's spawn EVERY time (which is easy to do), you've just made more than you could in vulture form, even if you killed every spawn. I average around 150-190% of the spawn, MAYBE not against rine, but I'm not ALWAYS fighting a rine that's grinding in my lane. Not everyone is harassing you all the time either.
Honestly, what you are saying, applies to just about any other hero... your rine laying 6 mines every wave will pretty much steal anyone else's feed, if executed correctly. Also volt L1 > L3 pretty much shuts down anyone.
Three mines is enough to destroy a clash, Six guarantees the clash is destroyed, hence why i said 3-6.
You just proved my point. "MAYBE NOT AGAINST RINE!" becuase he can deny you farm 10x easier than you can him not to mention he out DPS's you in mech mode by far. Hybrid Rine will also destroy you in terms of HP and Mana (3HP + 200mana kit comes to mind here). Mech isn't supposed to be using mana to train in his crappiest form. Mech mode is ASKING to be gimped and ganked. The reasons I brought up L1->L3 is because its guaranteed if you are in mechmode no questions asked HOWEVER if you are in Bikemode the chance of this happening is relatively low. Do you get what I'm saying?
Lets Recap Shall We:
-Mech L1 splash training vs bat: Not viable at all, Web destroys any training you have in mech mode, plus a slight chance for being Weblocked, no thanks. Also nade set-ups galore
-Mech splash vs Volt: May have some use vs mana volt, but if hes mana volting you hes thinking shorterm (fast L1-L3 Gimp) or moronic. If hes got 3HP kit, then spells get out the lane in mech mode, you lose.
-Mech vs Rine: We already discussed this
-MEch vs DM: If you stay in mech mode and she snares you, pretty much a guaranteed L3 with proper spacing.
Just because one scenario applies to one hero doesnt mean the same applies to another (I.e Rine is stealing mechs feed doesnt mean hes going to steal Volts feed.). For example, rine will not steal everyone elses feed (Bat,Volt,DM DESTROY him if he tries to do this including War). You can say "WELL HE CAN DO IT AGAINST BAT,WAR,DM,VOLT BY DOING THIS AND X,Y,X. Anyone with half a brain would not let rine splash train, meaning no pubs and bads.
Post has been edited 8 time(s), last time on May 5 2010, 6:27 pm by DoLLe.
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