I spent some time in the wiki and created this:Unit Information
As you can see it is not finished. As it took a hell lot of time to do that, i was wondering if maybe one or another could help here.
I marked everything that has to be changed with Asterisks. Just pick your favourite Unit, fill out the Form and remove the *, so everybody knows this one is done.
Don´t forget to add your Name in Fontsize 6 at the bottom right of each Unit you have done.

Also plz tell me if you think, one of the categories should be changed into something else. Unfortunatly it can´t be added a new one, but a change is possible.
For example Supply into Spells, was what i thought of.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 14 2009, 10:03 am by r00k.

Whoa. Nice work compiling all those portraits and motion images. However, I think we do need to add more information to each unit (or edit the existing one):

• HP/Shields
  
• Spells
  
• Build Time
  
• Attack Type
  
• Basic Damage and Upgrades
  
• Armor Type
  
• Basic Armor and Upgrades
  
• Size should be displayed as a set of sizes in each direction from the unit center, since asymmetric units exist
  
• "Other" Category, where we can include facts like "Spider mines for players 1-8 don't burrow if the player is set to neutral" or "Scarabs are used in the DDS system".
  

Is there a way to make the heades of the columns actually match the information in each unit, or it will always be displaced like that?

...actually, I think the info I'd like to add is too much to fit in the screen horizontally >_< (diagonally ftw!). I think we just need to have a dropdown box per unit; that way we can insetr all the info we wish without being restricted by a table.

So, i summarize, in my oppinion, the only Thing that should be added into the Table is "Spells". If i throw out Supply, which is not really needed, we are Mapper not Player, it will be fine.
I think about adding just the little yellow Pictures for the Spells and make a link to the Spell Reference in wiki, as it is very well done.
Additional Information can be added as an extra Line under the Table.
The Damage and Attack thing in the Table somehow. Under one of the 2 Attack categories.
I´d love to do the Table bigger, but from what i found out, 9 is maximum. Maybe its just because of the Pictures, i dunno, but when is use smaller values than 11%, it messes up the whole table.

I am going to take a shower now, when i am back, i will do the things i said, and post here again.
tbc...

Armor type and attac type are concepts that go together. Ghost's concussive attack type deals 25% damage to units with "large" armor type, 50% damage to units with "medium" armor type and 100% damage to unit with "small" armor type. So if your idea is for the table to have only properties that cannot be changed without modding, then these two properties must be included.

Also, try to remove (or maybe resize?) the pictures and see if it allows more flexibility with the table.

ok this is how the new idea would look like. Unfortunatly only with the Default Theme and a Resolution of 1680*1050.
As i can´t change my Resolution, can anyone tell me if this is acceptable with another Resolution ?
If so, i think i´d go with this and say fuck you Carbonite Theme, its bugged anyway. But i am pretty sure it looks like shit on other Resolutions.

to Jaff, is it possible to fit all the Information you wanted in there ???
And there is no way i am going to change the Pictures, actually i did it in the first place mainly for the Portraits, cause you can´t see them in ScmDraft, and its nice to know what you see, when you do Mission Objectives.
Anyway, i found out it wasn´t the problem. The Problem is, that the table values are somehow not absolute, it depends on how much text you write in there, at least when you do the cells smaller than 11%.
So if you could manage to get all infos the same length, that would be no problem, but that is stupid.

Any help with this is gladly appreciated...

Now that you've divided them into "unit properties" and "battle properties", it is much more organized. And you don't need to tell anyone not to change it, as all the info is saved in the history log.

I'd first hear what others have to say about this. For now, I have no feedback.

Hmm, sorry but I won't be able to help on this one, I'm not used to go get these kind of informations :S
I just wanted to tell you that 1024x1024 resolution do not see the categories well aligned.
Gl on this
(I could help at the end for the "Other" section)

i made my own backups too, off course, i just wanted to avoid, that someone puts some effort in it, that is not needed cause it will be changed later.
An Aircastle i guess but whatever. Better go save . Good to know that there is such a thing though.
Anyway, i will do nothing and wait for some feedback. Sounds like a good idea.

edit: I changed it again, i guess thats the way to go. Just look at the Zerg LArva ( first Entry ), thats the way i want to do it. Suggestions for the Submenus Battle Properties & Unit Properties are welcome.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jul 16 2009, 10:04 pm by r00k.

The 'other' section seems a bit odd. Larva have the colours of their players.

Ok final Suggestion is online. Plz look at the Larva and tell me exactly what Points you want under

Unit Properties & Battle Properties

If no one says something i will go with whats in there at the moment.
I say it again, once it is done, its a lot more work to add something.

Also i made the Hero Portraits, but haven´t added them right now.
I want this to be working, so come on, hurry.

Another thing...
The Maximum Character Size for a Wiki Article is 40.000 I need at least 100.000 Characters for it all, it says - 10.000 at the moment, but it works.
Will this be a Problem ? And if, can you set it higher, to like 200.000 or something ? I doubt it will steal you much space.
If not, i will seperate it, but it would be cool if it is possible.

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Jul 15 2009, 1:04 pm by r00k.

All the SC portraits externally hosted

They're animated too. Apparently googlepages is going down soon, but it should last for a little while longer.

Speed/sight range?

1. maybe usefull later
2. 2 days earlier would have been cool :-)
3. who the fuck is this ?
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hmmm range, sorry i missed it before, where can i find info about range ???
speed and sight is in there ....

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jul 16 2009, 2:08 am by r00k.

That's an unused unit (Merc Biker?).

terran beta advisor. used to be a bike in really early versions of SC. I have no idea how to place said unit, but I suppose I could try with a fresh install of sc...
http://www.staredit.net/topic/6791/
Also, this is my test which is much more accurate (IMO) than the previous attack per minute. Most units simply use the cooldown, but in some cases, there's a bit of discrepancy.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 16 2009, 2:40 am by rockz.

Is there any chance to host the portraits, and the units internally at sen ???
So i could link to them there ?
They are not bigger than 100kb, 99 Portraits.
The Units will be at most 50kb i guess.
So 20 MB should be enough space.

Also i found another one i don´t know.

That's a zerg egg.