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Programming Language
Jan 11 2009, 5:49 am
By: Vi3t-X  

Jan 11 2009, 5:49 am Vi3t-X Post #1



So apparantly I got grounded, and I am limited to what I can do. Being VERY limited, and VERY bored, I decided to take a kick out of learning code. Sure, there are "Learn this is 21 days" and stuff, but I've always wondered:

What (to your perspective) is the best Programming Language?
And link me to a download. Anything that can help would be appricated.
My friend told me to look in to C# and C++

Suggestions?



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Jan 11 2009, 6:46 pm DT_Battlekruser Post #2



Just about any programming language will teach you the most fundamental aspects of code (loops, variables, etc.) One of the easiest to get started quickly in is Python. C++ or Java are both "better" language in terms of teaching you better form, but they take more overhead learning.



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Jan 11 2009, 11:05 pm Falkoner Post #3



I would completely recommend C++, it covers just about every aspect in every programming language, it's quite fast and extremely flexible.



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Jan 11 2009, 11:07 pm Kellimus Post #4



Start with Qbasic (lmao, jk)

I started with the "teach yourself C++ in 21 days" book that my school had and its taught me a lot (still haven't sat down and read all the way through it yet, hahaha) and http://www.cplusplus.com has a sweet tutorial that is very informative.

Coding, or Scripting? Different things ;-P

If its coding your looking for, C++ is one of the primary ones that everyone uses (Well now probably C#) along with Java.. Honestly, it depends on what you're going to be coding, too...

Java can be better for coding certain things then C++ and visa versa.



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Jan 11 2009, 11:11 pm Centreri Post #5

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I recommend starting with PHP. It uses same basic syntax as the Java family does, though there are many notable differences. It's easy to switch. PHP isn't hard to learn and it lets you make your own website. It familiarizes you with all programming concepts, from loops to inheritance.



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Jan 11 2009, 11:14 pm Kellimus Post #6



Quote from Centreri
I recommend starting with PHP. It uses same basic syntax as the Java family does, though there are many notable differences. It's easy to switch. PHP isn't hard to learn and it lets you make your own website. It familiarizes you with all programming concepts, from loops to inheritance.

That's a Scripting language... Not a coding ;)



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Jan 11 2009, 11:41 pm Centreri Post #7

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He asked for a programming language, and despite being of a scripting nature PHP fits that bill. Plus, it is a good starter language any way you cut the cheese.



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Jan 12 2009, 1:13 am DT_Battlekruser Post #8



Quote from Centreri
I recommend starting with PHP. It uses same basic syntax as the Java family does, though there are many notable differences. It's easy to switch. PHP isn't hard to learn and it lets you make your own website. It familiarizes you with all programming concepts, from loops to inheritance.

PHP's halfassed object-orientedness also seems to instill the worst form in people.. it is possible to write well in PHP since all of the structure is there, but since it isn't required nobody does.



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Jan 12 2009, 1:15 am cheeze Post #9



dear god don't start with Java.

getting your hands dirty with pointers in C++ is good.
otherwise, use a language that doesn't suck: python .. or haskell if you're really bored. ;)



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Jan 12 2009, 1:29 am Vi3t-X Post #10



I have decided to use FORTRAIN.

Lol. But anyways, what in C++ can you relate to in anything else?



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Jan 12 2009, 1:37 am Centreri Post #11

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PHP's halfassed object-orientedness also seems to instill the worst form in people.. it is possible to write well in PHP since all of the structure is there, but since it isn't required nobody does.
We're talking about someone who doesn't know what a for loop is. I think the basics, at least, can be taught through PHP. It's an easy language. Python's nice, but the syntax is completely off from the other main languages.



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Jan 12 2009, 1:44 am ClansAreForGays Post #12



If you want the easiest programming language imaginable do C#




Jan 12 2009, 2:30 am Vi3t-X Post #13



Yes, but I'm trying to learn something practical, and at the same time, beat my friend who is learning C# by learning something more complex.



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Jan 12 2009, 2:34 am RoryFenrir Post #14



Quote from cheeze
dear god don't start with Java.

getting your hands dirty with pointers in C++ is good.
otherwise, use a language that doesn't suck: python .. or haskell if you're really bored. ;)

i started with java, well actually i started with Starforge triggers and TI basic lol



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Jan 12 2009, 2:47 am omginbd Post #15



@Rori: TI basic is the best!

I recently started learning C++, after learning the basics of Java, I can say I like the basics of C++ better than the basics of Java. Devc++ is a good freeware editor/compiler.



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Jan 12 2009, 3:02 am DT_Battlekruser Post #16



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I can say I like the basics of C++ better than the basics of Java.

Huh? Most of the "basics" are exactly the same.

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We're talking about someone who doesn't know what a for loop is. I think the basics, at least, can be taught through PHP. It's an easy language. Python's nice, but the syntax is completely off from the other main languages.

Point. I guess I just hate the average PHP scripter because of atrocious use of classes.




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Jan 12 2009, 3:11 am omginbd Post #17



Quote from DT_Battlekruser
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I can say I like the basics of C++ better than the basics of Java.

[color=#b5b5ff]Huh? Most of the "basics" are exactly the same.

I mean the basics past the point where they're all the same :bleh:



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Jan 12 2009, 3:17 am Kellimus Post #18



Quote from Vi3t-X
Yes, but I'm trying to learn something practical, and at the same time, beat my friend who is learning C# by learning something more complex.

Just because its more 'complex' doesn't mean its better...

FORTRAIN? Do you mean FORTRAN??

Anyways, I'm not sure I understand what you mean with: "Lol. But anyways, what in C++ can you relate to in anything else?"

If you want to get technical, C++ is just C with OOP (Object Oriented Programming) capabilities such as Encapsulation, Inheritance, Polymorphism, etc... The C language is things like Functions, Arrays, Structures, Pointers, etc...

I'd go with C++ honestly, its one of the most used languages out there.



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Jan 12 2009, 3:46 am Syphon Post #19



Quote from Kellimus
Quote from Centreri
I recommend starting with PHP. It uses same basic syntax as the Java family does, though there are many notable differences. It's easy to switch. PHP isn't hard to learn and it lets you make your own website. It familiarizes you with all programming concepts, from loops to inheritance.

That's a Scripting language... Not a coding ;)

You can compile executable PHP files.

Quote from DT_Battlekruser
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I can say I like the basics of C++ better than the basics of Java.

Huh? Most of the "basics" are exactly the same.

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We're talking about someone who doesn't know what a for loop is. I think the basics, at least, can be taught through PHP. It's an easy language. Python's nice, but the syntax is completely off from the other main languages.

Point. I guess I just hate the average PHP scripter because of atrocious use of classes.

Mike Lat? :P



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Jan 12 2009, 4:05 am Elvang Post #20



Personally I'd go with C++, using cprogramming and cplusplus for tutorials. DevC++ hasn't been updated in forever, try Code::Blocks instead ;). If your just learning a language to impress/outdo your friend try something like Brainfuck.




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