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Dec 17 2008, 6:19 pm
By: Ix~  

Dec 18 2008, 12:14 am UnholyUrine Post #21



lol at reasons to hate doodan

Counter measures:
1) Obama > you
2) Your "opininion" is useless (cause it's not a word)
3) I doubt you made Anything at all..
4) I didn't know you like witches... what a bad choice..
5) You hate him because he's a survivor? Guess who DIDN't survive
6) and I hate your idiocy, lack of language proficiency, and your FPS/Hardcore gamer genes that are acting up. Just stick to your Gears of Rape.

In my opinion, the aren't that many mappers anymore, so having a forum this populated which is only about mapping and modding is already pretty impressive. But I agree with the DLDB being a little user-unfriendly and undone :P. Especially the review section vs the rating system. The thing is, there aren't enough people that cares about map making anymore to keep them alive. But i seriously doubt this dude knows anything about mapping/modding.

I don't agree with all that article crap. We are who we are, I don't give a rat's ass about those..



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Dec 18 2008, 12:15 am Moose Post #22

We live in a society.

It isn't Danith.
It's most likely a long-time lurker, first-time poster.




Dec 18 2008, 12:57 am Biophysicist Post #23



BooBooKittyFuk much?

And who says we're inactive when it comes to mapping? You're just plain wrong. *points at temple siege/unholyurine* Granted, not all of us are the "Release an uber map every three days" kind of mapper (Especially me), but SEN is a good place to become one.

And also, we have a pretty epic modding community. *points at [MM]*

And SEN =/= melee only, a lot of us are UMSers. So you can't judge our mapping skills based on melee skill.

And don't insult Doodan. Doodan > Chuck Norris. Actually, SEN > Chuck Norris. Except you.



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Dec 18 2008, 1:15 am l)ark_ssj9kevin Post #24

Just here for the activity... well not really

The best meleers at SEN are D+. 5 years ago, the most active members may have hit C-. C- is a requirment for standard clans like LzH, etc. You will find that people will give advice who don't play sc anymore.
It's MAP MAKING, not Korean skillzing
Database
This database sucks. Not easy to upload. Noone would submit maps other than their own.
People sumbit other peoples maps, incase they quit SC or just not on SEN.
Doodan
Status: Global Moderator
I personally hate this guy.
5 Reasons why I hate this guy
1)Horribly liberal
2)Horribly opininionated
3)Who the hell is he? Never seen him on b.net. I think he made a campaign 5 years ago?
4)Witch hunt moar plz?
5)Sen Survivor
6)His Poetry
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Total* 495
Null 223
Staredit Network 108
Games 59
Serious Discussion 24
Technology & Computers 19
Portal News 17
UMS Theory and Ideas 7
Media, Art, and Literature 7
UMS Mapmaking Assistance 7
SC2 General Discussion 4
Map Showcase 2
Terrain 2
Map Production 1
Lawl, i like the 17 posts in the "Use Map Settings" 4 forums. 19 posts related to the game...
Jack of all trades status: No
Even for a forum moderator, where SC activity is not required, this guy sucks.
Excuse me? Why is only Doodan bashed? Using this logic, Dapperdan can also be under your hate list.
Conclusion:
I will conclude my argument with a quote from this beloved G.M.
Quote from Doodan
I think that groups such as the Korean gaming leagues have lent more to Starcraft's longevity than to the majority of the "mapmakers" at this site that don't actually make maps anymore.
This site has many things wrong that simply could be fixed.
Its staff hardly play SC and I wouldn't be suprised if some didn't have the game installed.
You should hire news writers to post news. Example: SC batches, new ladders, new programs
Again, we are not meleers. Just people who make maps.
Also, why is there a conclusion in the middle of this?

Wiki
This needs to have a SC General section. Many good topics could be covered.
We are not like Starcraft Wikia. We don't summarize the damn SC Storyline, or post every dumb fact about Starcraft. No. There's a campaign editor or a DatEdit.

If I skipped anything, either I agree or I don't get it,

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Dec 18 2008, 1:28 am by l)ark_ssj9kevin.



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Dec 18 2008, 3:15 am DT_Battlekruser Post #25



People need to realize that when the greatest UMS Starcraft site is focusing much more on things other than UMS mapping, it's not because we're wrong, it's because UMS Starcraft is dying. And it's not surprising, with the release of Starcraft II looking nearer every day.

And for the record, I fix on average three sets of fuxored tags a week. So the DLDB staff does stuff.




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Dec 18 2008, 3:16 am ToA Post #26

Que Sera, Sera.

obvious troll is obvious




Dec 19 2008, 2:24 am Ix~ Post #27



Why so seriuos?


You guys did not post any advice on what you wanted to change. SEN is now a bunch of forumers who hardly play SC. It's mappers are the second rate ones. The only admirable group left is the modders. The clans are second rate as well. The moderators fail to do their jobs adequately. Find moderators that will do alot.



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Dec 19 2008, 2:36 am Biophysicist Post #28



And you have failed to reply to any of our arguments. If you had bothered to read anything, you would notice that we actually answered everything you said. We didn't "give any advice on what [we] wanted to change" because we don't want to change anything, we like our community the way it is. Things will get better when SC2 comes out.

Also:
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obvious troll is obvious
This.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 19 2008, 2:36 am by TassadarZeratul. Reason: Oh btw, STFU BOOBOOKITTYFUK.



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Dec 19 2008, 2:49 am l)ark_ssj9kevin Post #29

Just here for the activity... well not really

What about modding? You didn't even mention it.



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Dec 19 2008, 2:55 am UnholyUrine Post #30



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It's mappers are second rate ones
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Obvious troll is obvious.
Don't feed the troll, guys. Someone lock this plz? :-_-: (2nd rate.. lol.. to what? Maplantis ppl? EDIT: o right, we devoured that..... ... ...)



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Dec 19 2008, 5:29 am Moose Post #31

We live in a society.

Quote from Ix~
You guys did not post any advice on what you wanted to change. SEN is now a bunch of forumers who hardly play SC.
Why is this bad? No, I'm not saying it's good. It is netiher good or bad, it is what it is.

The thing is, you've come in and you are trying to rewrite our ambitions for us. You're saying SEN is bad primarily because it does not have the focuses you want it to have... which just isn't true. People in general, including SEN, are not going to automatically care about and place the same value on the ideals and things that you do. While you raise several valid points about certain things, it just doesn't work when you start to redefine the purposes of SEN. When you're doing that, how receptive do you expect us to be?

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Dec 19 2008, 5:34 am by Mini Moose 2707.




Dec 19 2008, 5:47 am WoAHorde Post #32



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Doodan
Status: Global Moderator
I personally hate this guy.
5 Reasons why I hate this guy
1)Horribly liberal
2)Horribly opininionated
3)Who the hell is he? Never seen him on b.net. I think he made a campaign 5 years ago?
4)Witch hunt moar plz?
5)Sen Survivor
6)His Poetry

If you "hate" Doodan for being "horribly liberal and opinionated," then you must think the rest of out moderators are Antichrists and Communists. Doodan is the coolest guy around, and he does his job well.



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Dec 19 2008, 6:02 am Riney Post #33

Thigh high affectionado

Not to mention hes probably deleted the fewest of my topics, unlike moose :shifty:



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Dec 19 2008, 6:23 am A_of-s_t Post #34

aka idmontie

Quote from name:Dark_Marine
Not to mention hes probably deleted the fewest of my topics, unlike moose :shifty:
If it were up to me, ALL your topics would be deleted :P

But seriously, Doodan is the best mod around -- he's beat me to dealing with reports almost every time he's logged on. DAMN YOU DOODAN FOR BEING SO FAST!



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Dec 19 2008, 6:38 am Ix~ Post #35



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Any suggestions for improvement?
Remove the time delay on the DLDB if it still exists.

My point here was read. Lock.



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Dec 19 2008, 2:24 pm Excalibur Post #36

The sword and the faith

Quote from Ix~
SEN is now a bunch of forumers who hardly play SC.
It's been getting that way for a long time. And no one really cares. I guess you're trying to tell us something we knew about, expected, and were fine with is some terrible problem that just creeped up on us. Maybe it isn't as bad as you'd like it to be.

Quote from Ix~
It's mappers are the second rate ones.
And whos better? Warboards? Hah. Show me one site that out does us UMS wise. Melee wise we're in the shitter, but I've done my part to help that section.

Quote from Ix~
The only admirable group left is the modders.
We're the last of a dying breed, and SEN is our final home, so it seems.

Quote from Ix~
The moderators fail to do their jobs adequately. Find moderators that will do alot.
Killer_Kow and Doodan are two of the best moderators I've seen anywhere. I've been to a lot of forums in my time, and you won't find better than these two. Take your personal problems and keep them where they belong: in PMs.




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Dec 19 2008, 10:39 pm Centreri Post #37

Relatively ancient and inactive

Quote from WoAHorde
If you "hate" Doodan for being "horribly liberal and opinionated," then you must think the rest of out moderators are Antichrists and Communists. Doodan is the coolest guy around, and he does his job well.
What's wrong with communists? You got brainwashed :omfg:.

I really think this is finished.. most responses here have hit the nail on the head, which shows how damn big the nail's head is. He has an idealist image of a mapping community that does nothing but make maps 24/7. He mixes that in with a personal (and rather creepy) vendetta against our most respected staff members. And on these subjects, this stalker has the audacity to rant.



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