Conversation between devilesk and I
[01:02] Nerdy Le Terdy: Dan, you, and me
[01:02] Nerdy Le Terdy: are the prime targets
[01:02] Nerdy Le Terdy: You aren't ahead of either of us.
[01:02] devilesk: yes
[01:02] devilesk: i am
[01:06] Nerdy Le Terdy: Why won't you reveal your role? I've already promised to elect you if you have a decent role
[01:06] Nerdy Le Terdy: the only two conclusions I can come to
[01:06] Nerdy Le Terdy: are a) you have a crappy role
[01:06] Nerdy Le Terdy: or b) you are mafia
[01:06] devilesk: because
[01:06] devilesk: if i tell you my role
[01:06] devilesk: you could easily be mafia
[01:06] devilesk: and then therefore lynch me
[01:06] devilesk: based on
[01:06] devilesk: my role
[01:07] Nerdy Le Terdy: mayor can't get hit by mafia.
[01:07] devilesk: yes
[01:07] devilesk: but you would then
[01:07] devilesk: not get me elected
[01:07] Nerdy Le Terdy: lol
[01:07] devilesk: because based on my role
[01:07] devilesk: you'd prevent me from getting the position
[01:07] devilesk: and then easily pick me off at night
[01:07] Nerdy Le Terdy: I like your faith in me
[01:07] Nerdy Le Terdy: but it's not like you
[01:07] devilesk: i have faith
[01:07] devilesk: in no one
[01:07] devilesk: its
[01:07] devilesk: too early
[01:07] devilesk: to tell
[01:07] Nerdy Le Terdy: You appear to believe I'm better than you at something
[01:08] devilesk: if anything
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: i.e. swaying the voters
[01:08] devilesk: you should be honored
[01:08] devilesk: yes
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: and that's not like you.
[01:08] devilesk: that im giving you
[01:08] devilesk: that much respect
[01:08] devilesk: thats y i didn't trust dan
[01:08] devilesk: in mafia 8
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: That much respect
[01:08] devilesk: because i judge you to be able of
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: doesn't come from you
[01:08] devilesk: doing such a thing
[01:08] devilesk: yes it does
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: unless you have something to fear
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: like being mafia
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: and not wanting to get lynched
[01:08] devilesk: k now you're being dumb
[01:08] devilesk: i just tol dyou the reason
[01:08] devilesk: its because i'm not underestimating
[01:08] devilesk: your ability
[01:09] Nerdy Le Terdy: You always overestimate your own, though.
[01:09] devilesk: well a leader who doesn't have faith in his own ability
[01:09] devilesk: is useless
[01:09] devilesk: and shouldn't be a leader
[01:09] Nerdy Le Terdy: By that logic, I'm a better leader than you.
[01:09] devilesk: no
[01:09] devilesk: how
[01:09] devilesk: there's not even a way to compare based on that statement
[01:10] devilesk: im just stating a requirement
[01:10] devilesk: of a leader
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: blegh
[01:10] devilesk: its either you are confident or not
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: I was using it as
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: a quantitative value
[01:10] devilesk: but it's not
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: it can be
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: anyway
[01:10] devilesk: and
[01:10] devilesk: you can't measure it
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: we shouldn't be arguing terminology
[01:10] devilesk: because you have no idea how confident or unconfident i am
[01:10] devilesk: and you can't then measure it against yours
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: You are unconfident enough that you don't want me to oppose you
[01:10] devilesk: lol wut
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: I am confident that I could win, if I chose to.
[01:11] devilesk: i just don't want to
[01:11] devilesk: waste the time
[01:11] devilesk: communicating to all 25 other people
[01:11] devilesk: i've already said you can do whatever you want
[01:11] devilesk: but i know the town will lose
[01:13] Nerdy Le Terdy: It would help if you would tell me your role. Evaluating your roles usefulness is almost as important as evaluating your usefulness.
[01:14] devilesk: it wouldn't help me
[01:14] devilesk: because i still don't know if you're mafia or not
[01:14] Nerdy Le Terdy: Dude
[01:14] Nerdy Le Terdy: think about it
[01:14] Nerdy Le Terdy: If I'm mafia
[01:14] Nerdy Le Terdy: I'm not going to hit you based on your role.
[01:14] devilesk: yes you are
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: I'd hit you regardless
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: to shut you up
[01:15] devilesk: maybe
[01:15] devilesk: maybe not
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: You know I would
[01:15] devilesk: i don't know that
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: with only 1 doctor
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: it would be very easy to take you
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: dan
[01:15] devilesk: i may not be worth
[01:15] devilesk: hitting
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: are you trying to be a fucking moron?
[01:15] devilesk: if you think i am
[01:15] devilesk: then just try to be mayor
[01:16] Nerdy Le Terdy: here's what my hitlist would be
[01:16] Nerdy Le Terdy: first night if I were mafia
[01:16] devilesk: i don't care
[01:16] devilesk: its irrelevant
[01:16] devilesk: and if you're mafia
[01:16] Nerdy Le Terdy: You, Dan, KrayZee, Phobos, and Excalibur
[01:16] devilesk: you might just be telling me this
[01:16] devilesk: to distract me
[01:16] devilesk: for all i know
[01:16] devilesk: they could be mafia
[01:16] Nerdy Le Terdy: Which fucking role could you be to make me avoid you as mafia?
[01:16] Nerdy Le Terdy: Ask that question to yourself instead.
[01:17] devilesk: a nonrole
[01:17] devilesk: or even a good role
[01:17] Nerdy Le Terdy: The answer is none, actually.
[01:17] devilesk: i might
[01:17] devilesk: distract the town
[01:17] Nerdy Le Terdy: I couldn't afford that risk
[01:17] devilesk: nerdy
[01:17] devilesk: you're not going to make me
[01:17] devilesk: reveal my role
[01:17] devilesk: to you
[01:17] Nerdy Le Terdy: then I will assume you are mafia.
[01:17] devilesk: no matter what you say
[01:17] devilesk: alright
[01:17] devilesk: that's great
[01:17] devilesk: get elected
[01:17] devilesk: and lynch more
[01:17] devilesk: me*
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: I don't want to lynch you
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: I want to elect you
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: but if you are a townie
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: then my role is much better in the spot
[01:18] devilesk: if you're going to assume my role is mafia
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: and don't say role dosn't count
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: doesn't*
[01:18] devilesk: then the best course of action
[01:18] devilesk: would be to get elected
[01:18] devilesk: and use your free hit on me
[01:18] devilesk: that's 1 mafia down
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: I'm assuming it
[01:18] devilesk: plus your supposed role
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: because your logic
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: is horrible
[01:18] devilesk: gives you a clear advantage
[01:18] devilesk: is it really horrible
[01:19] Nerdy Le Terdy: Dude, you're being pathetic.
[01:19] Nerdy Le Terdy: You haven't put up a substantial defense
[01:19] Nerdy Le Terdy: at all
[01:19] devilesk: you don't know that
[01:19] devilesk: you're being manipulated
[01:19] devilesk: and you haven't thought that maybe that's the point
[01:19] devilesk: it may or may not be
[01:20] Nerdy Le Terdy: lol
[01:20] Nerdy Le Terdy: Manipulating me to work against you
[01:20] Nerdy Le Terdy: Wouldn't be smart
[01:20] Nerdy Le Terdy: no matter what your role is.
[01:20] devilesk: maybe its reverse psychology
[01:20] devilesk: you know i know it wouldn't be smart
[01:20] Nerdy Le Terdy: devilesk, please, this is pathetic.
[01:21] Nerdy Le Terdy: I'm not going to stop interrogating you and trying to find out why you're acting so weird because you bring up some reverse psychology bullshit.
[01:21] devilesk: im just speculating
[01:21] devilesk: or really im giving you things to speculate about
[01:22] devilesk: i think it would be epic
[01:22] devilesk: if you got elected and then lynched me
[01:22] devilesk: seriously you should do that
[01:22] Nerdy Le Terdy: I'm wondering about the town
[01:22] devilesk: you have reason to if you're going to assume i'm mafia
[01:22] Nerdy Le Terdy: I feel like I should ask them what they think about this conversation
[01:22] Nerdy Le Terdy: but they're all morons
[01:22] devilesk: tl;dr
[01:23] Nerdy Le Terdy: Indeed
[01:23] Nerdy Le Terdy: They'd skip over it and assume it was just some random clue interpretations
[01:23] devilesk: you should use it
[01:23] devilesk: because they'd probably conclude you should be mayor
[01:23] devilesk: and that i should be lynched
[01:23] devilesk: and that would be epic
[01:24] Nerdy Le Terdy: still being retarded.
[01:24] devilesk: how so
[01:24] devilesk: 1) you think you should be mayor
[01:24] devilesk: 2) you're assuming i'm mafia
[01:25] Nerdy Le Terdy: Because you're just trying to confuse me like any other random idiot
[01:25] devilesk: if i'm a random idiot
[01:25] devilesk: all the more reason
[01:25] devilesk: to lynch more
[01:25] devilesk: me*
[01:25] Nerdy Le Terdy: I was saying you were trying to confuse me
[01:25] Nerdy Le Terdy: as if I were any other random idiot
[01:26] devilesk: idiots confuse themselves
[01:26] devilesk: you shouldn't be confused if you're not an idiot
[01:02] Nerdy Le Terdy: are the prime targets
[01:02] Nerdy Le Terdy: You aren't ahead of either of us.
[01:02] devilesk: yes
[01:02] devilesk: i am
[01:06] Nerdy Le Terdy: Why won't you reveal your role? I've already promised to elect you if you have a decent role
[01:06] Nerdy Le Terdy: the only two conclusions I can come to
[01:06] Nerdy Le Terdy: are a) you have a crappy role
[01:06] Nerdy Le Terdy: or b) you are mafia
[01:06] devilesk: because
[01:06] devilesk: if i tell you my role
[01:06] devilesk: you could easily be mafia
[01:06] devilesk: and then therefore lynch me
[01:06] devilesk: based on
[01:06] devilesk: my role
[01:07] Nerdy Le Terdy: mayor can't get hit by mafia.
[01:07] devilesk: yes
[01:07] devilesk: but you would then
[01:07] devilesk: not get me elected
[01:07] Nerdy Le Terdy: lol
[01:07] devilesk: because based on my role
[01:07] devilesk: you'd prevent me from getting the position
[01:07] devilesk: and then easily pick me off at night
[01:07] Nerdy Le Terdy: I like your faith in me
[01:07] Nerdy Le Terdy: but it's not like you
[01:07] devilesk: i have faith
[01:07] devilesk: in no one
[01:07] devilesk: its
[01:07] devilesk: too early
[01:07] devilesk: to tell
[01:07] Nerdy Le Terdy: You appear to believe I'm better than you at something
[01:08] devilesk: if anything
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: i.e. swaying the voters
[01:08] devilesk: you should be honored
[01:08] devilesk: yes
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: and that's not like you.
[01:08] devilesk: that im giving you
[01:08] devilesk: that much respect
[01:08] devilesk: thats y i didn't trust dan
[01:08] devilesk: in mafia 8
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: That much respect
[01:08] devilesk: because i judge you to be able of
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: doesn't come from you
[01:08] devilesk: doing such a thing
[01:08] devilesk: yes it does
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: unless you have something to fear
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: like being mafia
[01:08] Nerdy Le Terdy: and not wanting to get lynched
[01:08] devilesk: k now you're being dumb
[01:08] devilesk: i just tol dyou the reason
[01:08] devilesk: its because i'm not underestimating
[01:08] devilesk: your ability
[01:09] Nerdy Le Terdy: You always overestimate your own, though.
[01:09] devilesk: well a leader who doesn't have faith in his own ability
[01:09] devilesk: is useless
[01:09] devilesk: and shouldn't be a leader
[01:09] Nerdy Le Terdy: By that logic, I'm a better leader than you.
[01:09] devilesk: no
[01:09] devilesk: how
[01:09] devilesk: there's not even a way to compare based on that statement
[01:10] devilesk: im just stating a requirement
[01:10] devilesk: of a leader
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: blegh
[01:10] devilesk: its either you are confident or not
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: I was using it as
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: a quantitative value
[01:10] devilesk: but it's not
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: it can be
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: anyway
[01:10] devilesk: and
[01:10] devilesk: you can't measure it
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: we shouldn't be arguing terminology
[01:10] devilesk: because you have no idea how confident or unconfident i am
[01:10] devilesk: and you can't then measure it against yours
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: You are unconfident enough that you don't want me to oppose you
[01:10] devilesk: lol wut
[01:10] Nerdy Le Terdy: I am confident that I could win, if I chose to.
[01:11] devilesk: i just don't want to
[01:11] devilesk: waste the time
[01:11] devilesk: communicating to all 25 other people
[01:11] devilesk: i've already said you can do whatever you want
[01:11] devilesk: but i know the town will lose
[01:13] Nerdy Le Terdy: It would help if you would tell me your role. Evaluating your roles usefulness is almost as important as evaluating your usefulness.
[01:14] devilesk: it wouldn't help me
[01:14] devilesk: because i still don't know if you're mafia or not
[01:14] Nerdy Le Terdy: Dude
[01:14] Nerdy Le Terdy: think about it
[01:14] Nerdy Le Terdy: If I'm mafia
[01:14] Nerdy Le Terdy: I'm not going to hit you based on your role.
[01:14] devilesk: yes you are
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: I'd hit you regardless
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: to shut you up
[01:15] devilesk: maybe
[01:15] devilesk: maybe not
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: You know I would
[01:15] devilesk: i don't know that
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: with only 1 doctor
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: it would be very easy to take you
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: dan
[01:15] devilesk: i may not be worth
[01:15] devilesk: hitting
[01:15] Nerdy Le Terdy: are you trying to be a fucking moron?
[01:15] devilesk: if you think i am
[01:15] devilesk: then just try to be mayor
[01:16] Nerdy Le Terdy: here's what my hitlist would be
[01:16] Nerdy Le Terdy: first night if I were mafia
[01:16] devilesk: i don't care
[01:16] devilesk: its irrelevant
[01:16] devilesk: and if you're mafia
[01:16] Nerdy Le Terdy: You, Dan, KrayZee, Phobos, and Excalibur
[01:16] devilesk: you might just be telling me this
[01:16] devilesk: to distract me
[01:16] devilesk: for all i know
[01:16] devilesk: they could be mafia
[01:16] Nerdy Le Terdy: Which fucking role could you be to make me avoid you as mafia?
[01:16] Nerdy Le Terdy: Ask that question to yourself instead.
[01:17] devilesk: a nonrole
[01:17] devilesk: or even a good role
[01:17] Nerdy Le Terdy: The answer is none, actually.
[01:17] devilesk: i might
[01:17] devilesk: distract the town
[01:17] Nerdy Le Terdy: I couldn't afford that risk
[01:17] devilesk: nerdy
[01:17] devilesk: you're not going to make me
[01:17] devilesk: reveal my role
[01:17] devilesk: to you
[01:17] Nerdy Le Terdy: then I will assume you are mafia.
[01:17] devilesk: no matter what you say
[01:17] devilesk: alright
[01:17] devilesk: that's great
[01:17] devilesk: get elected
[01:17] devilesk: and lynch more
[01:17] devilesk: me*
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: I don't want to lynch you
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: I want to elect you
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: but if you are a townie
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: then my role is much better in the spot
[01:18] devilesk: if you're going to assume my role is mafia
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: and don't say role dosn't count
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: doesn't*
[01:18] devilesk: then the best course of action
[01:18] devilesk: would be to get elected
[01:18] devilesk: and use your free hit on me
[01:18] devilesk: that's 1 mafia down
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: I'm assuming it
[01:18] devilesk: plus your supposed role
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: because your logic
[01:18] Nerdy Le Terdy: is horrible
[01:18] devilesk: gives you a clear advantage
[01:18] devilesk: is it really horrible
[01:19] Nerdy Le Terdy: Dude, you're being pathetic.
[01:19] Nerdy Le Terdy: You haven't put up a substantial defense
[01:19] Nerdy Le Terdy: at all
[01:19] devilesk: you don't know that
[01:19] devilesk: you're being manipulated
[01:19] devilesk: and you haven't thought that maybe that's the point
[01:19] devilesk: it may or may not be
[01:20] Nerdy Le Terdy: lol
[01:20] Nerdy Le Terdy: Manipulating me to work against you
[01:20] Nerdy Le Terdy: Wouldn't be smart
[01:20] Nerdy Le Terdy: no matter what your role is.
[01:20] devilesk: maybe its reverse psychology
[01:20] devilesk: you know i know it wouldn't be smart
[01:20] Nerdy Le Terdy: devilesk, please, this is pathetic.
[01:21] Nerdy Le Terdy: I'm not going to stop interrogating you and trying to find out why you're acting so weird because you bring up some reverse psychology bullshit.
[01:21] devilesk: im just speculating
[01:21] devilesk: or really im giving you things to speculate about
[01:22] devilesk: i think it would be epic
[01:22] devilesk: if you got elected and then lynched me
[01:22] devilesk: seriously you should do that
[01:22] Nerdy Le Terdy: I'm wondering about the town
[01:22] devilesk: you have reason to if you're going to assume i'm mafia
[01:22] Nerdy Le Terdy: I feel like I should ask them what they think about this conversation
[01:22] Nerdy Le Terdy: but they're all morons
[01:22] devilesk: tl;dr
[01:23] Nerdy Le Terdy: Indeed
[01:23] Nerdy Le Terdy: They'd skip over it and assume it was just some random clue interpretations
[01:23] devilesk: you should use it
[01:23] devilesk: because they'd probably conclude you should be mayor
[01:23] devilesk: and that i should be lynched
[01:23] devilesk: and that would be epic
[01:24] Nerdy Le Terdy: still being retarded.
[01:24] devilesk: how so
[01:24] devilesk: 1) you think you should be mayor
[01:24] devilesk: 2) you're assuming i'm mafia
[01:25] Nerdy Le Terdy: Because you're just trying to confuse me like any other random idiot
[01:25] devilesk: if i'm a random idiot
[01:25] devilesk: all the more reason
[01:25] devilesk: to lynch more
[01:25] devilesk: me*
[01:25] Nerdy Le Terdy: I was saying you were trying to confuse me
[01:25] Nerdy Le Terdy: as if I were any other random idiot
[01:26] devilesk: idiots confuse themselves
[01:26] devilesk: you shouldn't be confused if you're not an idiot
tl;dr version: The gist of it is that devilesk is acting really oddly, and his logic sucks. He flips back and forth a lot, and just generally doesn't make a lot of sense. I decided to bring it to you guys and see what you think.
Edit: Obviously, at this point I am thinking devilesk is somewhat incompetent to be mayor. I begin my campaign again, with the added bonus of knowing I have a good role.
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 3 2008, 5:34 am by NerdyTerdy.
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