| Creator: lil-Inferno Time: Apr 12 2008, 12:28 pm |
| lil-Inferno | Apr 12 2008, 12:28 pm | Post #1 |
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Don't play with fire, play with lil-Inferno!
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Well a lot of people have been making those topics of "Should we travel into space onto another planet." Well a recently found planet dubbed "Earth's Twin" was found in the Galaxy of Alpha Centauri about four light years away. Read this short article:
So, SEN, could we be well on our way to another inhabitable planet? |
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| frazz | Apr 12 2008, 2:00 pm | Post #2 |
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He'll spear your brains if you step out of line.
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a) So nobody really knows if there is a planet here, it's just a guess?
b) It would not be Earth's twin. It might be a similarly sized planet a similar distance from a similar sun. To be a twin, it would need to have exactly the right atmospheric conditions to support life like our special planet does. c) I'm rather skeptical of the whole "we think life should be here" thing. It's never proved to be the case, and I doubt it ever will. |
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| Syphon[MM] | Apr 12 2008, 2:18 pm | Post #3 |
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a) As is the state with every single extrasolar planet. We can only observe them indirectly. b) True c) We've never explored somewhere there /should/ be life. |
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| frazz | Apr 12 2008, 2:32 pm | Post #4 |
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He'll spear your brains if you step out of line.
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c) We probably never will either. Another reason I'm not a fan of this area of space exploration and astronomy. |
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| lil-Inferno | Apr 12 2008, 2:59 pm | Post #5 |
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Don't play with fire, play with lil-Inferno!
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The whole "Earth's Twin" thing was just a title made up because this planet may be able to support life. I've always been interested in what's beyond our galaxy, and this is a huge discovery that interested me.
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| frazz | Apr 12 2008, 8:26 pm | Post #6 |
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He'll spear your brains if you step out of line.
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Isn't it more of a conjecture than a discovery?
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| Hercanic | Apr 12 2008, 9:37 pm | Post #7 |
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"If our understanding of terrestrial planet formation is at all correct, then there should definitely be terrestrial planets orbiting both members of the Alpha Centauri binary pair," team member Greg Laughlin of UCSC told New Scientist. That would be an assertion. Anywho, while it would be great to find a habitable planet in Alpha Centari, our closest neighboring star system, the odds are slim. Even if there are rocky planets, they could be like Mercury, Venus, or Mars. That is, too close, too poisonous, or have a dead dynamo. |
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| BlueFalcon | Apr 12 2008, 10:02 pm | Post #8 |
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It's worth exploring the next planet. After acquiring the new planet, lock Earth into an industrial planet. Fux it's resources, fux it's clean air, and fux the life on it. It's industrial.
That's what I'd do... oh, and I'd start drilling out all the Oil on ALpha Centari. |
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| BeDazed | Apr 12 2008, 10:06 pm | Post #9 |
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If the atmosphere has too dense CO2, planting algaes on the planet will cause the CO2 levels to subside and Oxygen levels to increase.
If the atmosphere has too dense methane, burning it would help. Any planet that is with Earth like Gravity is considered habitable. ( Through a process called terraformation. ) With that kind of gravity, a gas giant is impossible. Also, the planet might be larger in volume if the core is not molten iron with the same level of gravity of earth's, since iron is a highly dense metallic element. (We'd want a planet with tons of metal. :\ ) |
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| Syphon[MM] | Apr 14 2008, 5:10 am | Post #10 |
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a) So nobody really knows if there is a planet here, it's just a guess? b) It would not be Earth's twin. It might be a similarly sized planet a similar distance from a similar sun. To be a twin, it would need to have exactly the right atmospheric conditions to support life like our special planet does. c) I'm rather skeptical of the whole "we think life should be here" thing. It's never proved to be the case, and I doubt it ever will. a) As is the state with every single extrasolar planet. We can only observe them indirectly. b) True c) We've never explored somewhere there /should/ be life. Europa. Isn't it more of a conjecture than a discovery? No, based on the type of star and its distance from the planet, we can pretty much exactly know what it's like. |
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| WoAHorde[MM] | Apr 14 2008, 5:13 am | Post #11 |
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a) So nobody really knows if there is a planet here, it's just a guess? b) It would not be Earth's twin. It might be a similarly sized planet a similar distance from a similar sun. To be a twin, it would need to have exactly the right atmospheric conditions to support life like our special planet does. c) I'm rather skeptical of the whole "we think life should be here" thing. It's never proved to be the case, and I doubt it ever will. a) As is the state with every single extrasolar planet. We can only observe them indirectly. b) True c) We've never explored somewhere there /should/ be life. And the Egyptians never thought we could go anywhere on the planet in under 24 hours and communicate at the speed of light. |
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| Rantent | Apr 14 2008, 7:47 am | Post #12 |
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To be a twin, it would need to have exactly the right atmospheric conditions to support life like our special planet does. However, I have a feeling that we'd be better off looking for life on mars. |
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| BeDazed | Apr 14 2008, 8:54 am | Post #13 |
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Mars has approximately 1/3 the gravity of Earth's. No we're actually looking for planets with similar gravity as Earth's does.
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| Clokr_ | Apr 14 2008, 1:05 pm | Post #14 |
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Mars has approximately 1/3 the gravity of Earth's. No we're actually looking for planets with similar gravity as Earth's does. I don't think gravity is that important. Except maybe for the atmosphere creation, but anyway a planet that is 1/3g gravity could probably be habitable. Being able to detect that kind of planets is actually quite exciting. But anyway probably the protoss will have already been there when we get to explore them. |
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| BeDazed | Apr 14 2008, 1:58 pm | Post #15 |
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You think gravity isn't important? Living in a gravitically weak environment will degrade your muscles? Weaken your pressure? Degrade your life span? And we don't have technology to create artificial gravity. We have yet to even understand thoroughly about the effects low gravity causes to our body. A planet with one third of Earth's gravity will never be used as a effective populative planet. It would most likely be a planet that would be stripped of its resources down to the core and be abandoned.
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| Clokr_ | Apr 14 2008, 3:45 pm | Post #16 |
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Omg got a title!
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You think gravity isn't important? Living in a gravitically weak environment will degrade your muscles? Weaken your pressure? Degrade your life span? And we don't have technology to create artificial gravity. We have yet to even understand thoroughly about the effects low gravity causes to our body. A planet with one third of Earth's gravity will never be used as a effective populative planet. It would most likely be a planet that would be stripped of its resources down to the core and be abandoned. [...]Mars, by contrast, is nearly (or perhaps totally) geologically dead and has lost much of its atmosphere.[14] Thus, it would be fair to infer that the lower mass limit for habitability lies somewhere between Mars and Earth-Venus; 0.3 Earth masses has been offered as a rough dividing line for habitable planets.[15] Exceptional circumstances do offer exceptional cases: Jupiter's moon Io (smaller than the terrestrial planets) is volcanically dynamic because of the gravitational stresses induced by its orbit; neighbouring Europa may have a liquid ocean underneath a frozen shell due also to power generated in its orbiting a gas giant; Saturn's Titan, meanwhile, has an outside chance of harbouring life as it has retained a thick atmosphere and bio-chemical reactions are possible in liquid methane on its surface. These satellites are exceptions, but they prove that mass as a habitability criterion cannot be considered definitive. It's important, but not so important. Anyway I was talking about planets ranging from 0.3g to 1.6g or something like that, not 0.0002g. |
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| frazz | Apr 15 2008, 12:17 am | Post #17 |
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He'll spear your brains if you step out of line.
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a) So nobody really knows if there is a planet here, it's just a guess? b) It would not be Earth's twin. It might be a similarly sized planet a similar distance from a similar sun. To be a twin, it would need to have exactly the right atmospheric conditions to support life like our special planet does. c) I'm rather skeptical of the whole "we think life should be here" thing. It's never proved to be the case, and I doubt it ever will. a) As is the state with every single extrasolar planet. We can only observe them indirectly. b) True c) We've never explored somewhere there /should/ be life. Europa. Isn't it more of a conjecture than a discovery? No, based on the type of star and its distance from the planet, we can pretty much exactly know what it's like. I just think it's not right to say that it's "Earth's Twin," because that implies so much more than we really know. We don't even know if there's any water there. |
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| Syphon[MM] | Apr 15 2008, 12:56 am | Post #18 |
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a) So nobody really knows if there is a planet here, it's just a guess? b) It would not be Earth's twin. It might be a similarly sized planet a similar distance from a similar sun. To be a twin, it would need to have exactly the right atmospheric conditions to support life like our special planet does. c) I'm rather skeptical of the whole "we think life should be here" thing. It's never proved to be the case, and I doubt it ever will. a) As is the state with every single extrasolar planet. We can only observe them indirectly. b) True c) We've never explored somewhere there /should/ be life. Europa. Isn't it more of a conjecture than a discovery? No, based on the type of star and its distance from the planet, we can pretty much exactly know what it's like. I just think it's not right to say that it's "Earth's Twin," because that implies so much more than we really know. We don't even know if there's any water there. Silly me, I forgot to write should. Oh wait? I didn't?! Reading comprehension, smartass. Water is a wholly insignificant part of Earth's chemical composition, density, and location in the solar system. |
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| Rantent | Apr 15 2008, 1:14 am | Post #19 |
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Water is a wholly insignificant part of Earth's chemical composition, density, and location in the solar system. In a few years we will know if there's water on the planet. (If we don't already.) |
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| Hug A Zergling | Apr 15 2008, 1:18 am | Post #20 |
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Have YOU hugged a Zergling today?
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Wasn't another earth like plante already found before this one, and everyone kinda just forgot about it?
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