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Anonimity = gone?
Mar 10 2008, 10:40 pm
By: Centreri  

Mar 10 2008, 10:40 pm Centreri Post #1

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lolwut
What really strikes me as strange is how the heck the US Government can fine Maplantis (or SEN, depending on where Moose lives) if the administration lives in another country. Even discounting that, this guy's a retard.



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Mar 10 2008, 10:48 pm Forsaken Archer Post #2



Both sen and maplantis are located in Philadelphia. Random tidbit of trivia.



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Mar 10 2008, 10:52 pm Ultraviolet Post #3



Killing anon is fucking stupid. I'm sending him an angry e-mail right now. US Government does not control the internet.




Mar 10 2008, 10:53 pm Centreri Post #4

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It says website operator, not website. I assume that it depends on the location of the operator, not of the server hosting the website? Or am I wrong on that one?



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Mar 10 2008, 10:55 pm Demented Shaman Post #5



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Both sen and maplantis are located in Philadelphia. Random tidbit of trivia.
Good to know for when I go on my killing spree. LULZ JK



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Mar 10 2008, 10:59 pm Ultraviolet Post #6



Spam this idiot with complaints.




Mar 11 2008, 12:22 am who Post #7



is this guy serious...



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Mar 11 2008, 12:32 am Ultraviolet Post #8



Send him anon e-mails :P




Mar 11 2008, 12:40 am FatalException Post #9



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Representative Couch:
I just read a news report from the website of WQTV of Lexington, Kentucky, and I, along with every other internet forum and game user, disagree with your views on internet anonymity. You cite internet bullying as a reason to disallow it, but can you imagine what would happen if everyone on the internet could see what your real name is? If someone had a real drive to harass another, the removal of anonymity would make it even easier. Of course, one will know who's harassing them, but they'll know even better when the harasser finds them using the information that is required to give to a website. Also, this bill would make identity theft almost impossibly easy. A fake website could be made, "requiring" a user to input a social security number, credit card number, etc. for "verification purposes." My point is simply this: Please think through your bill proposals more thoroughly before you make them, and please consult someone who would know what they are talking about.

Anonymous
P.S.: I choose to remain anonymous as it would also be easy for anyone to gain access to your database, take my information from it, and do much, much worse than "cyberbully."
Everyone send that to him NAO!!1



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Mar 11 2008, 12:58 am Forsaken Archer Post #10



LOL how would a web master even hope to enforce that?
I'd support enforcing permanent addresses mapped to an individual isp account though, with no chance of proxying or spoofing it. It'll be highly illegal to tie this number to a name or address, even if the user gave such information. That way, a service can hold this number responsible for irresponsible behavior and ban access to their service. A war on trojan-like programs would be nice, to protect idiots from being used for attacks.



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Mar 11 2008, 1:37 am Moose Post #11

We live in a society.

I wanted a good chance to use this one:





Mar 11 2008, 2:08 am stickynote Post #12



That is one of the most retarded ideas I have ever heard of. What happened to "home of the free"?



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Mar 11 2008, 2:48 am frazz Post #13



free does not necessarily = anonymous.

This isn't any sort of problem though, anonymity issues have already tested the first amendment. I see why anonymity can be a huge disadvantage sometimes (just look at the internet :P ), but there's simply too much to lose. Also, I don't see how anybody can even think of trying to make the internet more enforced than newspapers, television and the rest of the world.



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Mar 11 2008, 2:54 am JordanN Post #14



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Representative Couch says he filed the bill in hopes of cutting down on online bullying.
Bullying is serious business. Anyone who takes the interwebs seriously has the I.Q of a dumbducky or kellimus.

Since this is an American law does that mean foreign users who don't use there address wont be fine or wait lol wut. Just say the website is a Mexican website and founded in Mexico city.

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"home of the free"?
1799-1906



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Mar 11 2008, 2:58 am Ultraviolet Post #15



I'm assuming IF this was passed, which I can't imagine it will be, then US users would only have to be anonymous on US based websites. I'm also guessing most sites would begin hosting outside of the US :P




Mar 11 2008, 3:26 am MillenniumArmy Post #16



If such a bill were to be passed, it is going to be rather difficult to enforce this thing...



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Mar 11 2008, 11:07 am Dr. Shotgun Post #17



This bill would never, not in my fucking life, be passed.

If it is, I'm committing suicide. And that's a promise.



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Mar 11 2008, 2:30 pm DT_Battlekruser Post #18



The bill was filed. Meaning he said "here is a bill." It hasn't even passed committee yet, and I highly doubt it will. Even if such a stupid piece of legislation were to pass

(a) it would be immediately challenged in court, and would probably be ruled as a violation of the First Amendment.
(b) being a US law, it could not exact punishment on website using servers outside of the United States




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Mar 11 2008, 4:02 pm Vi3t-X Post #19



Wait... doesnt Yoshi, er, Tau live in Canada? I thought the same being with Moose?

Whatever, this bill is shchupid. If it does get passed, yes, it will most likely be challenged in a court and action may be taken against the retards who actually wrote the bill.



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