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SEN Smiley Discussion
Oct 12 2012, 8:17 pm
By: DevliN  

Oct 12 2012, 8:17 pm DevliN Post #1

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Rather than going on and on about smileys in the suggestions thread, I decided to make this into a new thread for discussion. Note that I do not plan on adding any new smileys. Suggestions for new smileys will be deleted. I'd like to consolidate the existing smileys, however, and remove ones that are never used or would never be used.

Below is Kame's original post about smileys:
Quote from Fire_Kame
You know, I was thinking about the emoticon thing that kinda is repeatedly brought up, and maybe what we need to do is actually prune them. I'm not going to list all of them (because many of them are just fine) but here are some examples:

:angel: who uses this? Not to mention if it is used it stretches text like crazy and takes up a lot of space. Remove it, and hey we could even keep :notangel: instead. (although I don't really see that one used as much, it isn't as intrusive. And of course, there is also and do I need to mention (side note, is very similar to

:ban: this emote never made sense to me, I feel like it's bait for people to get unnecessary severity. If there is such an issue that someone needs banned they should be reporting the post - making posts with an emote (heaven forbid just that and nothing more) is straight up spam. Also, it stretches text. same with

:bang: same as above. And redundant for :bash: which takes less space.

:bye1: :bye2: :bye3: a little redundant, isn't it? I think we should keep :bye3:

:cool: and :cool2: again, redundant. I like :cool: better, personally.

:dontgetit: I'd use this one if it had a more palatable name, like :huh: A little redundant for but I do like the way it looks.

:...: when has this been used last? And again...it stretches. Same with and

:$: has this ever been used?

is a little redundant of its more popular counterpart (and although it stretches I really like keeping for crude instances that really raise the bar)

is a nice idea but is very dirty looking.

and are very close to the same.

maybe should be changes to ; or something more representative.

Given that this isn't Null and a topic like this could get out of hand, keep your posts on topic.



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Oct 12 2012, 8:49 pm Bar Refaeli Post #2



Quote from Fire_Kame
You know, I was thinking about the emoticon thing that kinda is repeatedly brought up, and maybe what we need to do is actually prune them. I'm not going to list all of them (because many of them are just fine) but here are some examples:

:angel: who uses this? Not to mention if it is used it stretches text like crazy and takes up a lot of space. Remove it, and hey we could even keep :notangel: instead. (although I don't really see that one used as much, it isn't as intrusive. And of course, there is also and do I need to mention (side note, is very similar to Agreed.

:ban: this emote never made sense to me, I feel like it's bait for people to get unnecessary severity. If there is such an issue that someone needs banned they should be reporting the post - making posts with an emote (heaven forbid just that and nothing more) is straight up spam. Also, it stretches text. same with Agreed

:bang: same as above. And redundant for :bash: which takes less space. Agreed

:bye1: :bye2: :bye3: a little redundant, isn't it? I think we should keep :bye3: Three versions to say goodbye is a little much, I think two would be fine

:cool: and :cool2: again, redundant. I like :cool: better, personally. Disagree. One is "I'm cool" while the other is "That is cool."

:dontgetit: I'd use this one if it had a more palatable name, like :huh: A little redundant for but I do like the way it looks. Agreed.

:...: when has this been used last? And again...it stretches. Same with and True.

:$: has this ever been used? I see no reason why this should be taken out. We at SEN are money greedy.

is a little redundant of its more popular counterpart (and although it stretches I really like keeping for crude instances that really raise the bar) No way, I love that smiley.

is a nice idea but is very dirty looking. Not a pressing matter.

and are very close to the same. Yea. I like ohno more.

maybe should be changes to ; or something more representative. Uhh... I don't understand the argument behind this one.
Now I have no idea how removing these smilies would help SEN, but if it does, then here's my opinion.



Noñe.

Oct 12 2012, 8:49 pm Fire_Kame Post #3

a left leaning coexistence nut

I should add that as the conversation went on, it seems apparent that both :cool: and :cool2: should remain as they have separate purposes and (allegedly) are both used frequently...I don't know if any other significant points were brought up though.




Oct 12 2012, 8:54 pm Dem0n Post #4

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:angel:      :notangel:
:ban:        :bored:  
:$:          :idea:  
:omfg:       :sadangel:  
:spam2:      :spam1:  
:surrender:     ;-)


I've never seen any of these smilies used. ;-) doesn't even look like its text form, :$: is stupid and doesn't even work, and :idea: and the same as :lightbulb:



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Oct 12 2012, 9:00 pm Bar Refaeli Post #5



And smilies that I believe are not accurate portrayals of the text face: (excluding the ones already mentioned)

:0_o:
:bored:
:-_-:
:stfu:
:<_<:


Smiles that I believe should be removed due to redundancy:

>:( :curse: :flamer: :mad: :ranting: or :uberflame:
:???: or :wtfage:
:whistle: or :whistling1:



Noñe.

Oct 12 2012, 9:04 pm Bar Refaeli Post #6



Smilies I think should be removed due to redundancy: (cont.)

:scared: :shocked: or :crazy:
:-( :crybaby: or :weep:
:lightbulb: or :idea:
:unsure: or :ermm:

Smilies I think should be removed because no one uses them: (Kame already mentioned most of them)
:boxed:
:spam2:



Noñe.

Oct 12 2012, 9:10 pm Fire_Kame Post #7

a left leaning coexistence nut

:idea: looks better than :lightbulb:

:-( is more popular than the other too. Same with :ermm: and :crazy: (though the latter of this usually is replaced with :hurr:)




Oct 12 2012, 10:52 pm Vrael Post #8



I think all smileys should remain, except those we specifically want to change for purposes like adding a :dem0n: or :herapderp: smiley or whatever. Power to the smileys! There's really no reason to get rid of them, they're not hurting anything, unless you have a better image with which to replace an existing smiley.



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Oct 12 2012, 11:03 pm DevliN Post #9

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As some people have pointed out, though, I do find some of the smiley images misrepresenting what the emoticon or word they are supposed to convey. So even if I don't remove unused ones, I'd like those to be fixed somewhat.



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Oct 12 2012, 11:05 pm lil-Inferno Post #10

Just here for the pie

I would be willing to fix some. Just tell me which ones you need fixed.




Oct 12 2012, 11:09 pm DevliN Post #11

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I meant fixed in terms of changing the text/emoticon that makes them appear.



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Oct 13 2012, 1:44 am Bar Refaeli Post #12



:bored: changed to :*_*: and new face added for bored.
:-_-: changed to :idc: (maybe?)
:<_<: changed to -_- and center the eyes (or not)
:wtfage: changed to :huh:
:stfu: changed to :X and new face added for stfu
;-) changed to :phew:



Noñe.

Oct 13 2012, 1:55 am TiKels Post #13



Quote
:<_<: changed to -_- and center the eyes (or not)
No. First off the eyes are directionalized in the emote, and second off making ascii emotes into picture emotes breaks like rule #35 of the internet.
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:stfu: changed to :X and new face added for stfu
Same thing with this one. Ascii should always be ascii.



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Oct 13 2012, 2:01 am Bar Refaeli Post #14



Quote from TiKels
Quote
:<_<: changed to -_- and center the eyes (or not)
No. First off the eyes are directionalized in the emote
Yea but <_< has a more "roll eyes" feel and both :<_<: and -_- have a more "disappointed" feel.



Noñe.

Oct 13 2012, 3:45 am Azrael Post #15



Quote from name:Raccoon
:crazy:

This definitely shouldn't be removed.

Quote from name:Raccoon
:-_-: changed to :idc: (maybe?)

It has two things that currently work for it: :-_-: and :sleep:, neither of which I think convey its apparent expression. :-_-: should definitely not refer to this smiley.

I've tried using this emoticon a number of times, and usually type :vv: because that's what seems like the logical text for it.

I just searched the shoutbox and I've actually whispered :vv: to people before lol.

I think :-_-: should be changed to :vv:

Quote from name:Raccoon
:<_<: changed to -_- and center the eyes (or not)

This one actually would work as :-_-:. As TiKels mentioned, popular ASCII emoticons shouldn't be directly replaced, although there's nothing wrong with sticking colons on either side of them.

Quote from name:Raccoon
:wtfage: changed

I disagree. :wtfage: is one of the few I actually use quite a bit. If you want to add an additional text thing to it, sure. The only thing that :wtfage: should possibly be replaced with is :wtf:, because it really is the perfect description of its expression.

Quote from name:Raccoon
;-) changed to :phew:

100% agreed. I'm not sure how ;-) got attached to any smiley, let alone one that isn't even winking.




Oct 13 2012, 4:44 am Fire_Kame Post #16

a left leaning coexistence nut

Quote from name:Raccoon
:bored: changed to :*_*: and new face added for bored.
:-_-: changed to :idc: (maybe?)
:<_<: changed to -_- and center the eyes (or not)
:wtfage: changed to :huh:
:stfu: changed to :X and new face added for stfu
;-) changed to :phew:

I agree with everything except I don't think the eyes need to be centered, and maybe :stfu: should be :nocomment: ... :X used to be the grossed out face, so that'd cause some confusion.




Oct 13 2012, 8:38 pm TiKels Post #17



Quote from Fire_Kame
and maybe :stfu: should be :nocomment: ...
No way, way too long. I still think ones like :massimo: are borderline too long of a name. Nothing should be two or more words like that. Seriously. It takes away from the ease of writing them. I tend to use that smilie when it's a topic that seems awkward or like I'm admitting something I've done wrong.

Admittedly I don't use it a lot ;D



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Oct 13 2012, 8:49 pm Dem0n Post #18

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:massimo: takes like half a second to type if you know how to type properly...



Memes gather, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the memer on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of memes. I pledge my life and honor to the Meme's Watch, for this meme and all the memes to come.

Oct 13 2012, 10:50 pm Azrael Post #19



Quote from TiKels
Quote from Fire_Kame
and maybe :stfu: should be :nocomment: ...
No way, way too long.

I also think :nocomment: is probably too long, although it's more accurate than :stfu:. Seven characters is about the limit, I think.

Maybe :noreply: or :resist:? It seems like the smiley indicates that you want to say something, but are resisting the temptation to do so.

And there is nothing wrong with :massimo:, leave it be.




Oct 13 2012, 11:28 pm Fire_Kame Post #20

a left leaning coexistence nut

Yea I guess it's long but I've always taken that smiley to mean you're like pleading the fifth, or holding your tongue. How about :duress:? Would many of the users even know what that means?




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