Ditto. Can't assure SEN ownership would be something I can deal with.

IP not signing on for a year doesn't seem to have been a problem. You'll have to be pretty negligent to be more negligent than that.

Not even. Because I shouldn't have it, nor should (just for example) Nude or Will or Voyager. Notice Nude is probably level with me on highest GM, Will is a pillar of the community, and Voy is another pillar that I have the utmost respect and admiration for, and yet I can easily say none of them should have it.

Owning SEN is a big deal. We've had a lot of problems here in the past due to the community and its managers not being respected properly. SEN does a very good job of policing itself and promoting moderators from within the community. I think a lot of us take for granted how SEN works and don't realize how different things are at a lot of sites. SEN has never been able to be bought, not in ownership, and certainly not for the respect of the community. But SEN's rankings and structure only work if no one is exempt from it, and paying the bills does not grant one an exception. This is why we must be vigilant and make sure that whoever takes over is not only reliable enough to pay the bills but understands and respects the way SEN works.

Just because someone can doesn't mean they should.

You guys might not know me that well, but I have a vps setup on my dedi, wouldn't be a problem hosting on my server. I have been catering to custom maps, but would be very honored to help out here. Just let me know,


Skype: Malpheus
Msn: Malpheus
Bnet: Malpheus 292

Quite serious here, SEN is a big deal to alot of people.

I'm currently hosting a bunch of redirected URL's to a main forum:

www.bunkerwars.net
www.riskrevulsion.com
www.brokenalliances.com
www.12kingdoms.net
www.trifaction.net
www.fleetassault.com
and prolly double that.

I'm also the lead for the EAGLE project, a program being built to read bank files for global leaderboards in custom maps. You're welcome to ask for more references. I'm very interested and serious, would just want to help.

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Been really sick.

I can take over payments and such. Discussion about this has since moved to the Staff Forum, but I'll leave this open in case anyone else has something new to add.

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Shouldn't need to spend $30/month on a VPS, unless it's supposedly a really nice one (could have fooled me?).

I have unlimited hosting and bandwidth for my sites as is, so one thing I'll be looking into is perhaps just transferring everything over to that instead rather than paying for two separate bills.

Does this mean we can fix the search function?

This is just as much our site as yours, we shouldn't be left out on such an important decision.

I really don't think this is "such an important decision." IP's been gone for a year and we've managed just fine. Devlin will more than likely take over, and we all knew that from the beginning, so it doesn't really matter.

It's just going to end up with some other guy, who is not you, paying $30/month, it's not too big of a deal.

I think it goes without saying that I want to own the site.

I think it also goes without saying that doing so would probably piss off a lot of people. like ex.

But if there's anything I can do to alleviate fears I will do it, just state them.

I think you're making a bigger deal about this than it is. When Yoshi passed the payments to IP, it wasn't some big communal discussion for everyone to weigh in on. In this case, we think it would make the most sense for a staff member to take over payments, hence why the discussion moved to the Staff Forum. SEN has always been community-driven, but at the same time we have a lot of staff members who have spent years volunteering their time to this site. So forgive me if I disagree that the site is as much yours as those who have worked on it behind the scenes.

IT IS MINE. ALL MINE. NONE OF YOU CAN HAVE ANY.

Knock the crap off.

I was being serious, for the record, and this type of comment is why the discussion is moving to the staff forum.

Unfortunately, Kame, if we were to have a vote, Devlin would probably win 99% of the votes.

I would imagine first off none of us would vote, and second off if DevliN truly wanted it I'd drop out. >_>

Byebye IP, thanks for hosting SEN for everyone here for such a long time. Hope you still log in from time to time to see how everyone is doing!

Admit it, DevliN is the only one we should really trust the site to. He's got the record as an administrator to prove his responsibility and dedication to the website. And as he says, it's not really that big of a deal.

I don't know why we're discussing this further.

That's fair. I mean, many people own companies silently and let their managers do the work, and the owners make a percentage of sales. It isn't typical that the owner has a huge hand in day-to-day operations.

But since there is no profit to be had here, I'd assume that the owner should be invested in the site's well being in some way. It'd follow that it'd be owned by someone who has history with the site OR has an awesome knowledge base on the community or game, OR in some way can both grow the site (ie has an interest, or experience in, social networking or coding that has been tried several times and has failed), or, hell, at this point anyone with an above average sense of dedication.