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The Skeptic's Annotated Bible
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Apr 19 2008, 10:22 pm Symmetry Post #21

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Quote from Echo
Well the virgin Mary shouldn't even really have a key figure. Educate me by catholics are different than Christians.

Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I don't know enough about other religions. But the virgin Mary doesn't get worshiped :P



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Apr 19 2008, 11:48 pm Dapperdan Post #22



Quote from JordanN
Mormons fail because of there 70 years of hypocrisy. Love everyone except black people. :crazy: Also they were involved in a war.

Yeah, those damned mormans, starting all these wars... are you for serious? Have you ever looked at any other religion, ever?



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Apr 20 2008, 3:26 am JordanN Post #23



Quote from Dapperdan
Quote from JordanN
Mormons fail because of there 70 years of hypocrisy. Love everyone except black people. :crazy: Also they were involved in a war.

Yeah, those damned mormans, starting all these wars... are you for serious? Have you ever looked at any other religion, ever?

Oh my god. I already know about other religions downfalls. I'm just stating how Mormons make themselves appear that "they are pure" when they are really not. Wait, wait, wait. Let me make this easier for you. :(

Religious guy: Hey you. Want to be apart of my religion. We are holier then all. Our doctrine tells us to love everyone and to be good all the time so we can go to heaven!
Normal person: Sure why not. But first, let me use this lense of truth on you.(courtesy of the legend of zelda; Ocarina of time)
*Bzzp.* *Bzzp*
Normal guy:The lense says your religion had a history of hatred towards those who ate peanut butter, countless raping of young girls and forcing those that are in the religion to steal from asians.
Religious guy: That's not true. Shut up.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Apr 20 2008, 3:43 am by JordanN.



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Apr 20 2008, 5:29 am Dapperdan Post #24



The point is that all religions are hypocritical and you can't say that the morman faith fails as a religion because it is hypocritical when you are still comparing it to other religions.



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Apr 23 2008, 3:11 am Syphon Post #25



Except Buddhism.



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Apr 23 2008, 4:05 am Dapperdan Post #26



Quote from Syphon
Except Buddhism.

Perhaps yes. ;b



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May 26 2008, 1:08 pm Jello-Jigglers Post #27



Quote from Echo
Holy shit! You were raised Mormon? I don't know why Mormons fall under the category of Christianity. Both have diferent beliefs and I think Mormons are weird (No offense to FaRTy if any or his mother). I recently saw that containment in Texas about little girls getting inpregnanted by Older men. The people who were even interviewed to defend this view acted really weird too.
Not by the Mormons, but from an excommunicated Mormon who started his own religion.

Quote from Echo
I saw it in the news lately. The reason why I don't consider Mormon part of Christianity is because they seem to put more effort in praising that guy John Smith (If I'm not mistaken). They also added this whole part into and changed stuff around. They believe that Jerusalem/ Jesus was born in America right?
Same goes to catholics, I don't hate them but I hate the religion because they are putting more effort in praising the virgin mary, who had nothing but a small part of the Bible and she was just the birth giver of Jesus Christ.
You are mistaken, it's Joseph Smith.

Quote from JordanN
Mormons fail because of there 70 years of hypocrisy. Love everyone except black people. :crazy: Also they were involved in a war.
Catholics fail because they do worship Mary (who wasn't virgin) as an idol and the 10 commandments state idol worship is fail.
Also, their priests are notorious for molesting and corrupting a whole bloodline of Canadian natives.

Jehovah's Witnesses (which I am so far or until I make my final decision) would of been the way to go as a true pure religion if they never made none of those 4 predictions that didn't come true (1874,1914,1925,1975). Plus claimed they (the watchtower) are a prophet (Issue 89 or '91 I believe).

Lol wut am I doing, the topic is about the website. Anyways, it's interesting. I've read some select pages that talks about mistakes and stuff in the bible.
You can't exactly say a religion fails. Sounds sorta like you're grading it like a teacher when you put it that way. And i guess yes if you're trying to rate it, there are somethings that aren't quite understood. Anyways, Mormons believe there is a time and a place for all things. But just a little tip, "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God."

Quote from Dapperdan
The point is that all religions are hypocritical and you can't say that the morman faith fails as a religion because it is hypocritical when you are still comparing it to other religions.
Hypocritical is a strong word, but yes, you can't really compare religions side by side in that sense. It's not like you're buying shoes, you don't go progressive and compare prices side by side. Because they are religions, there is supposed to be a conviction/feeling you get when you find the right religion.

If there are any more questions/comments feel free to pm me.
(if you're still wondering, yes I am Mormon, or LDS. No I'm not trying to convert you lolz I just wanna clear up any underlying confusion. In fact I hate that goody-goody Mormon, "I'm holier than tho" side most members put off...)



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May 26 2008, 4:52 pm midget_man_66 Post #28



wether or not the bible is true is a silly debate. its there for social structure and moral guidence. lol... even if people with religions werent killing eachother *cough CHRISTIANSMUSLIMSJEWS*
wed still find something to fight about:
Episode of southpark part 1
Episode of southpark part 2

you should definitely watch these... they are hilarious XD



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May 27 2008, 1:45 am Jello-Jigglers Post #29



Quote from midget_man_66
wether or not the bible is true is a silly debate. its there for social structure and moral guidence. lol... even if people with religions werent killing eachother *cough CHRISTIANSMUSLIMSJEWS*
wed still find something to fight about:
Episode of southpark part 1
Episode of southpark part 2

you should definitely watch these... they are hilarious XD
Utilizing humor to provide a view. A great method. My favorite ep of sp has to be the guitar queero one, though it has nothing to do w/ this conversation so I won't post a link. :bleh:



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May 28 2008, 11:08 pm SiN Post #30



Quote from name:Killer_Kow
Quote from Echo
Well the virgin Mary shouldn't even really have a key figure. Educate me by catholics are different than Christians.

Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I don't know enough about other religions. But the virgin Mary doesn't get worshiped :P

I believe there are two different "Catholic faiths" as i was told.
One of them is the denomination of Christianity that was started by the apostle Peter. (this is the one that most people think about)
The other is not considered Christian and does worship the virgin Mary.



some of my best friends are Mormon. There's nothing considerably wrong with the faith, just its history (polygamy, racism, and a few murders.)



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May 28 2008, 11:28 pm midget_man_66 Post #31



Quote from SiN
Quote from name:Killer_Kow
Quote from Echo
Well the virgin Mary shouldn't even really have a key figure. Educate me by catholics are different than Christians.

Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I don't know enough about other religions. But the virgin Mary doesn't get worshiped :P

I believe there are two different "Catholic faiths" as i was told.
One of them is the denomination of Christianity that was started by the apostle Peter. (this is the one that most people think about)
The other is not considered Christian and does worship the virgin Mary.



some of my best friends are Mormon. There's nothing considerably wrong with the faith, just its history (polygamy, racism, and a few murders.)
well, im not gonna say this like its a suprise.. but just about every branch of religion has had its mucky past.. *COUGH CRUSADES* ugh.. akk. i need to get rid of whatever is in my throat



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May 28 2008, 11:31 pm SiN Post #32



i never said there wasn't anything wrong with other religions...I'm just saying that Mormons have been further persecuted for theirs.



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May 29 2008, 5:43 am BlueFalcon Post #33



I however am a firm believer in the words of El Ron Hubbard. And I am here to convert you....

Proof that our religion is true, is through that site. Notice how our books are not listed, thus not having any contradictions... I must preserve your thetans for... erm... yes... excellent...

.....

Actually that site is fantastically awesome. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/is/45.html#7
Your religion is your religion, I've come to the conclusion that everyone is just confused... most religions share the same themes, morals, some of the same stories... Thanks for the link.



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Jun 19 2008, 8:50 am Kaias Post #34



Quote from Jello-Jigglers
Quote from Echo
Holy shit! You were raised Mormon? I don't know why Mormons fall under the category of Christianity. Both have diferent beliefs and I think Mormons are weird (No offense to FaRTy if any or his mother). I recently saw that containment in Texas about little girls getting inpregnanted by Older men. The people who were even interviewed to defend this view acted really weird too.
Not by the Mormons, but from an excommunicated Mormon who started his own religion.

Quote from Echo
I saw it in the news lately. The reason why I don't consider Mormon part of Christianity is because they seem to put more effort in praising that guy John Smith (If I'm not mistaken). They also added this whole part into and changed stuff around. They believe that Jerusalem/ Jesus was born in America right?
Same goes to catholics, I don't hate them but I hate the religion because they are putting more effort in praising the virgin mary, who had nothing but a small part of the Bible and she was just the birth giver of Jesus Christ.
You are mistaken, it's Joseph Smith.

Quote from JordanN
Mormons fail because of there 70 years of hypocrisy. Love everyone except black people. :crazy: Also they were involved in a war.
Catholics fail because they do worship Mary (who wasn't virgin) as an idol and the 10 commandments state idol worship is fail.
Also, their priests are notorious for molesting and corrupting a whole bloodline of Canadian natives.

Jehovah's Witnesses (which I am so far or until I make my final decision) would of been the way to go as a true pure religion if they never made none of those 4 predictions that didn't come true (1874,1914,1925,1975). Plus claimed they (the watchtower) are a prophet (Issue 89 or '91 I believe).

Lol wut am I doing, the topic is about the website. Anyways, it's interesting. I've read some select pages that talks about mistakes and stuff in the bible.
You can't exactly say a religion fails. Sounds sorta like you're grading it like a teacher when you put it that way. And i guess yes if you're trying to rate it, there are somethings that aren't quite understood. Anyways, Mormons believe there is a time and a place for all things. But just a little tip, "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God."

Quote from Dapperdan
The point is that all religions are hypocritical and you can't say that the morman faith fails as a religion because it is hypocritical when you are still comparing it to other religions.
Hypocritical is a strong word, but yes, you can't really compare religions side by side in that sense. It's not like you're buying shoes, you don't go progressive and compare prices side by side. Because they are religions, there is supposed to be a conviction/feeling you get when you find the right religion.

If there are any more questions/comments feel free to pm me.
(if you're still wondering, yes I am Mormon, or LDS. No I'm not trying to convert you lolz I just wanna clear up any underlying confusion. In fact I hate that goody-goody Mormon, "I'm holier than tho" side most members put off...)
Thank you for that, so I didn't have to type it. What Farty said was also true, that most of what you hear about Mormons isn't true.

And calling Mormons not Christians seems kind of off since they are formally The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and believe in Christ.

Pretty much everything Jello Jiggers said I would've, including the last bit about being one.



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Jun 19 2008, 8:53 am Kaias Post #35



And as an afterthought, I knew this thread would find itself centering on mormonism



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Jun 19 2008, 1:49 pm Jello-Jigglers Post #36



Quote from Kaias
And as an afterthought, I knew this thread would find itself centering on mormonism
That's how it always goes lol. I like reading the links in skeptics about the BOM cause it's funny to see how they go about everything all the wrong way.



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Jun 22 2008, 12:30 am ClansAreForGays Post #37



BOM?




Jul 11 2008, 4:57 am SOLAR Post #38



This is excellent. More needs to be done that exposes the ridiculousness of religion.



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Jul 11 2008, 4:32 pm Falkoner Post #39



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I saw it in the news lately. The reason why I don't consider Mormon part of Christianity is because they seem to put more effort in praising that guy John Smith (If I'm not mistaken). They also added this whole part into and changed stuff around. They believe that Jerusalem/ Jesus was born in America right?
Same goes to catholics, I don't hate them but I hate the religion because they are putting more effort in praising the virgin mary, who had nothing but a small part of the Bible and she was just the birth giver of Jesus Christ.

1. Joseph Smith
2. We see him as a Prophet, seeing as that's what he is, not better than Jesus or God
3. Jesus was born in Bethlehem, but after he died he also visited in the Americas
4. Catholics do not put more effort into praising Mary..

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Mormons fail because of there 70 years of hypocrisy. Love everyone except black people. :crazy: Also they were involved in a war.

??? Every religion didn't allow black people in their churches back then, and Mormons allowed them as soon as the slavery and such was over. And the war part? Because we showed our patriotism and helped when asked to in the war? Mormons never started a war.

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Holy shit! You were raised Mormon? I don't know why Mormons fall under the category of Christianity. Both have diferent beliefs and I think Mormons are weird (No offense to FaRTy if any or his mother). I recently saw that containment in Texas about little girls getting inpregnanted by Older men. The people who were even interviewed to defend this view acted really weird too.

That's an odd branch that broke off of the church, and our leaders are completely against polygamy.

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BOM?

Abbreviation for Book of Mormon.

It cracks me up that the majority of what people know about mormons is either A: Completely false, or B: They learned it from South Park.

Now, I'm going to check out that website and make fun of it's crappy arguments.

Wow... After about 5 minutes on that site, I realize what idiots they truly are, just seeing the first few quotes at the top made me realize this... Here's some examples
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And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.--3 Nephi 2:15
Yes, because originally they were cursed with dark skin, therefore it is called a curse.

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And ye also say that Christ shall come. But behold, I say that ye do not know that there shall be a Christ.--Alma 30:26

Ah, quoting an Anti-Christ? These guys are truly retarded and are just taking all sorts of things out of context.

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Unless ye shall repent of your sins that their skins will be whiter than yours.--Jacob 3:8

Once again, back then dark skin meant people who did not believe in God, and were cursed with dark skin for it.

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Except the Lord doth chasten his people with many afflictions, yea, except he doth visit them with death and with terror, and with famine and with all manner of pestilence, they will not remember him. -- Helaman 12:3

Uh.. Yeah, look at life today, wickedness is everywhere and why? Because God doesn't afflict us the way he used to, look at 9/11, everyone became all religious and patriotic afterwords.

That website is retarded, and anyone who thinks it's cool and the makers are smart guys, they have no idea about the bible, and are just pulling things out of context left and right and attempting to compare modern day with a time when things were done much differently.

And reading the absurd section, either they are completely wrong, or they are making a joke that I might make in passing, not in all seriousness. These guys are truly retarded.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jul 11 2008, 4:48 pm by Falkoner.



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Jul 11 2008, 4:49 pm MillenniumArmy Post #40



That website isn't an annotation to help reader's understand the bible, it's nothing more than just your average mediocre bashing of the bible that you can find anywhere. If you want a real annotation of the bible, there are tons of books out there. And of course you can find some local churches; I'm sure they have weekly bible studies.



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