He DOES have the intent to become Null, alright. But let's just lynch the other confirmed Null instead.

There are many mafia visiting roles, and again many of them don't have to kill. Inferno may be a non-killing mafia, which I kinda believe more right now.

Which raises the question in my head...why would we vote for Null instead of a possible mafia?

Damn I'm stupid. I vote Lil-Inferno for real estate guru.

Current Vote Tally:

Votes accounted for: 8/14

I vote inferno.

I vote for lil-Inferno.

I vote lil-inferno.

Getting a little desperate aren't you Raccoon?

Wow, look what I found in my PMs.


He's been claiming clues and trying to coerce me into an alliance with him for a while, but I've shaken it off and I have repeatedly told him I'm not mafia. This is his plan though. Town should know.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 13 2012, 6:35 pm by Fire_Kame.

LOL <3

I'll make a post about my serious opinions of what should be done momentarily.

I'll be waiting for it patiently. And I'll be interested in hearing from anyone else who has been bothered by Raccoon.

You and Raitaki are so similar to each other!

I only bothered people who I found significant clues against. Especially Roy, too bad he died. I'll post all of my clues momentarily as well. You guys really need to start actually looking at the night posts. Also, all of you who supported Roy's clue analysis against Inferno are either mafia or incredibly stupid. Those clues were the worst clues I have ever seen.

EDIT: Also this:
Use your eyes guys!

Shit, that's what the anime looks like? At least the music's kinda cool. If that's your opinion of what a "serious response" is you might as well fess up to what I've already suspected. You were making wild guesses, and you got caught.

Alright, I guess Inferno has been determined to die.

I was null'd last night, but I am still completely town-sided and have no intentions of becoming null.

Two scenarios. First, there were two original nulls. Meaning Leon, Raitaki, me, and one other unknown person are all infected (this is assuming Raitaki was honest in the fact that he had programmers protect both him and Leon). After today, either two or three of us will become full null (depending on whether or not there is a third programmer, I highly doubt there are four). Fortunately, Leon, Rai, me, and hopefully the last person, are all cooperative. (It would be illogical not to be cooperative, as then the mafia would have the clear advantage over both null and town. In fact, us infected people could even coordinate an attack on a suspected mafia in order to eliminate them). None of us will null anybody, and then we can each be healed by the Shrine Maiden. Three days into the future, we will all either be cured or be continuously protected by the doctor. Trackers or whatever can prove our cooperativity, and hopefully the fourth person to be null'd will claim to us. In addition, even if the unknown person chooses to not cooperate, his chances of winning are extremely slim. The only problem (for you guys) would be if all four of us are pulling your legs and have actually been nulling people this entire time (jkjk that isn't actually happening ). With this scenario, we can get to the real task at hand, which is eliminating mafia. I have many clues, and I believe my clues against Kame are extremely strong.

Second scenario, there was only one original null. Either Leon or Raitaki were lying about being infected and they are mafia attempting to become a hub and learn all of our roles. In this case, the town can be even more sure that the null are being cooperative, yet the only problem is that either Leon or Raitaki is mafia. In this case, the shrine maiden would still be able to heal all of us, yet it would be the mafia who were more of the problem than the null. Now, before I had this change of heart, I was pretending to welcome my nulless, in attempt to find out if Rai or Leon were mafia or if I could expose a mafia in allying with me. While I had this attitude, I asked Inferno who he nulled. He said he nulled Leon night 0 (although I have many reasons to believe he was lying). If he was telling the truth, then Raitaki would be our mafia in this scenario. I'm sure we could get some roles to easily prove whether he is or isn't, so the Inferno argument may as well be completely irrelevant. Then we move on with eliminating the mafia through actual clues. Honestly, do you guys even look at the night posts for clues? There are some pretty obvious ones.

In either case, our best bet is to get people to watch over the infected (me, included) to make sure they cooperate, and then continue with the real necessity of lynching the mafia. In either of my presented scenarios, the null are easily eliminated in a short time span, and we do not have unnecessary townie deaths. The main thing I would like to stress is that if the town tries to lynch all of the infected people then the mafia will have an extremely easy win.

To prove my support of these scenarios, I will change my vote to Inferno.

I vote Inferno.

And lastly, Raitaki pm'd me, threatening me to tell him my role otherwise he would have me lynched and killed. Now, I am quite the fan of living, but I didn't tell him my role, as I believe it would not be beneficial for my role to be outed. There is always the chance that Raitaki is mafia (scenario 2) and there is the fact that the person who claimed to him yesterday did end up dying.

(apologies for using the words "null" and "infected" interchangeably.

Next post I will say any clues I found, and I encourage others to do the same, as now is the time we need to strike out against the mafia. I am all for supporting a Kame lynch tomorrow.

ps. sorry if I forgot anything, I typed this up rather quickly

Current Vote Tally:

Votes accounted for: 11/14

So Raccoon, for Kame, you try to ally with her and want to eliminate the Null and the town along with excess Mafia? Then when you try to talk to me, you want me to become a Null and join you in eliminating the Town and once they are killed, it would be easy to kill the Mafia?

Just what are you planning?

He's the original!

Coon, I love you for being a derp and forgetting Tikels was a Null <3
And yes, I AM coercing you to cooperate. I'm clearing Leon as Town. I have a role which makes me unwilling to lose one night waiting to be purified instead of acting as town. You, on the other hand, were working with lil-Inferno (oh and stop acting like you think Null is so bad or something, you were the one who was all like "hey Rai are you Null bite me and kill Kame and Null Victory :3 :3 :3" ), and have been taking a very anti-town stance all game. We are the 3 infecteds, and so far there seem to be only 2 Programmers remaining. So yeah, one has to turn Null.

Given your record, I have good reason to believe you'll start assaulting people as soon as you turn Null, before even bothering to wait for Shrine Maiden, yes?

Also, all game you haven't named a single fucking reason to get Kame killed. That is very damn scummy.

Also, I have lost all incentives to believe you'll cooperate in any way. Unless you give me some very damn good reasons and promises I don't see why you shouldn't be lynched tomorrow.

I vote lil inferno.

"No signs of malicious data tampering were found, however." You really think TiKels is null? You're a smart one, Raitaki.

Use logic. Why would I try to work with Inferno if I knew two of the other infecteds were not going to work with him? If you two were working with him, then of course I would work with him. If you two aren't, I'm not going to. I'm not dumb. I know an unwinnable circumstance when I see one. It was only logical of me to see if you two would work with him, because then it wouldn't be an unwinnable circumstance.

"hey Rai are you Null bite me and kill Kame and Null Victory :3 :3 :3" Don't put words in my mouth. I never said this. You were the one who asked me if I was null. I asked if you were truly bitten because I wanted to know if there truly were two original nulls.

"Also, all game you haven't named a single fucking reason to get Kame killed. That is very damn scummy." I really don't believe being a hub suits you just because you said this. Do you even read the thread, Raitaki?

Coon stop quoting stuff you don't understand. All the quote means is that Tikels' "data corruption" was likely not a result of night actions, i.e. he started out that way.

Don't put words in your mouth? Okay...
I'm too lazy to dig up the sb parts, but w/e.