Azrael's Mafia #1: Resident Evil (Topic)

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KABOOM, BABY! :hurr:

From what I know, Az isn't too restrained about how many of a role he gives out, and Tempz looks like a fine candidate for Engineer.

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No offense to Tempz but I highly doubt he wrote that message that you were supposed to post.

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Yeah, it's got a proper comma. There's no way he wrote that.

Now you're injuring my brain and giving Dem0n credibility (edit: @devlin). To townies, though, why is the Engineer's identity of any concern? He's town-aligned and Dem0n is more or less assured USS.
@tempz: :hurr:

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Ironically my bad spelling saved me this time :hurr:

well the engineer is trolling the game i think.

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You guys miss anything I post that isn't controversial. For the third time, I never said I wanted to kill Aristocrat. I just wanted to point out that he was irrationally killing off townies.

I suggest you guys look at the first batch of votes when Roy voted, and try to base your decisions off of those, not random loopholes (aka coincidences) that you find in my posts.

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If the rogue engineers motive for killing Angel was because he thought there were too many investigators and so he figured one of them was fake-claiming, and Demon is claiming to be investigator and posting most-likely fake PMs about it...

I killed AngelSpirit because he told me Dem0nS1ayer's role PM did not match what he had. In light of several other "townies" reaffirming that Dem0n's role PM matched theirs, I destroyed AngelSpirit on the basis that he lied to me. Turned out that he was town-aligned rather than USS, but come on, really? Why would you even lie about something like that?

Observer has not lied to me thus far, and therefore, is alive. Dem0nS1ayer, like AngelSpirit, is lying to town for no good reason. He is far too much of a liability to leave alive at this point. Therefore, we should lynch either him, or Excalibur, who also has substantial clues against him and behaviorally does not match up with a townsperson.

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You guys miss anything I post that isn't controversial. For the third time, I never said I wanted to kill Aristocrat. I just wanted to point out that he was irrationally killing off townies.

I suggest you guys look at the first batch of votes when Roy voted, and try to base your decisions off of those, not random loopholes (aka coincidences) that you find in my posts.

No one is saying you want to lynch Aristocrat. We're trying to make a case for other people to change their votes away from him. Also, he killed 1 Townmember, not multiple. I assume that he wont kill Observer if he thinks Observer is Town-aligned.

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Now you're injuring my brain and giving Dem0n credibility (edit: @devlin). To townies, though, why is the Engineer's identity of any concern? He's town-aligned and Dem0n is more or less assured USS.
@tempz: :hurr:

I'm not sure what credibility I'm giving Dem0n.

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Aristocrat

Observer has not lied to me thus far, and therefore, is alive. Dem0nS1ayer, like AngelSpirit, is lying to town for no good reason. He is far too much of a liability to leave alive at this point. Therefore, we should lynch either him, or Excalibur, who also has substantial clues against him and behaviorally does not match up with a townsperson.

Sorry for tandem posting like every 30 seconds, but I don't think the clues against Excalibur are strong. I highly doubt Azrael would use a join date as a clue. I used that in my game and Devlin found it literally 10 minutes after I posted it. Also, the clues against Hellfire are pretty lame too. He's confirmed Investigator; his findings of lil-inferno match exactly with what happened.

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No one is saying you want to lynch Aristocrat. We're trying to make a case for other people to change their votes away from him.

And to someone other than me? :devlin:

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DevliN

I vote Dem0nS1ayer.

He PMed HellFIre and I with the following, hoping that he could get us organized:

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You successfully investigate Vrael.

You follow him through a dimly lit hallway. He pushes himself against the shadows of the wall and waits quietly; you do the same.

You see Devlin walk by. Vrael has his eyes fixed upon him. As Devlin walks out of sight, Vrael crawls out of the shadows and begins to follow him again. You start to do the same, but you notice another figure emerge from the shadows. You stay back and watch as the USS Assassin silently approaches Vrael. As he gets closer to Vrael, the dim lights, offering only a bit of sight, reveal a knife in the man's hand. As you being to walk the other way, you hear a body hit the ground.

From what I've heard, he may have sent this to other people, as well, except with the target being someone else. On top of that, the real Investigator PMs say "You successfully shadow [name]" not "successfully investigate." I've also never seen such a wordy shadow result, as they typically are matter-of-fact explanations of what you see. Azrael is also meticulous about getting the spelling of names correct, so he wouldn't write "Devlin" instead of "DevliN." And finally, Azrael is always good about his spelling and grammar, so "As you being to walk the other way" would not likely be a mistake he'd make. This was not written by Azrael.

Hang on, I re-read Azrael's rule post and this clinches it that Demon is lying:

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USS Assassin - Each night the Assassin can choose one other person to stalk. He will see every role that visits the target, as well as the name of the player the target visits. If the target is not USS and is not visited by a Survivor, the Assassin kills the target. The Assassin will see if the target is a Zombie, in which case he will kill the target regardless of any visitors.
Stalk: Follows a person at night, gathering information about their interactions, and killing them if the opportunity presents itself.

Emphasis mine.

It's impossible for an investigator to shadow Vrael, and have Vrael killed by an Assassin in the same night.

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Lanthanide

Hang on, I re-read Azrael's rule post and this clinches it that Demon is lying:

Quote from Azrael

USS Assassin - Each night the Assassin can choose one other person to stalk. He will see every role that visits the target, as well as the name of the player the target visits. If the target is not USS and is not visited by a Survivor, the Assassin kills the target. The Assassin will see if the target is a Zombie, in which case he will kill the target regardless of any visitors.
Stalk: Follows a person at night, gathering information about their interactions, and killing them if the opportunity presents itself.

Emphasis mine.

It's impossible for an investigator to shadow Vrael, and have Vrael killed by an Assassin in the same night.

I love you. That is the best possible proof that Dem0n fabricated his PM.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Nov 2 2011, 12:18 am by DevliN.

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I thought about that. Too bad that's as far as I got.

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Quote from Rogue Engineer
KABOOM, BABY! :hurr:

From what I know, Az isn't too restrained about how many of a role he gives out, and Tempz looks like a fine candidate for Engineer.

I don't get what this is supposed to mean.

According to the rules, the engineer gets to send their constrained victim 1 message each day and each night. The first message you posted says "However, in the interests of one of my group members who is up for lynching right now" which means it must have been sent during the day.

Therefore this second "KABOOM, BABY!" message would be in violation of the rules.

Is this an actual message the engineer has sent you, or are you just making it up? Have you in fact made the whole thing up, and Aristocrat is now playing along?

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Observer12425

Quote from Rogue Engineer
KABOOM, BABY! :hurr:

From what I know, Az isn't too restrained about how many of a role he gives out, and Tempz looks like a fine candidate for Engineer.

I don't get what this is supposed to mean.

According to the rules, the engineer gets to send their constrained victim 1 message each day and each night. The first message you posted says "However, in the interests of one of my group members who is up for lynching right now" which means it must have been sent during the day.

Therefore this second "KABOOM, BABY!" message would be in violation of the rules.

Is this an actual message the engineer has sent you, or are you just making it up? Have you in fact made the whole thing up, and Aristocrat is now playing along?

You can send a message on the same night that constrain occurs.

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Also in looking at the roles, we don't know what the Beguiler does. Supposing Dem0n's claim that Aristocrat visited Observer is legitimate, it is possible that he is the Beguiler and has the ability to do something similar to shadowing. Or on the other hand, the Beguiler did something similar to shadowing and PMed the result to him so he could claim to be an Investigator.

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Aristocrat

You can send a message on the same night that constrain occurs.

Yes, so the "KABOOM, BABY!" message must have been sent during Night 1. Why then, has Observer posted this additional message?

It just doesn't make sense to me.

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Lanthanide

Yes, so the "KABOOM, BABY!" message must have been sent during Night 1. Why then, has Observer posted this additional message?

It dust doesn't make sense to me.

He received the message in Night 1 when he was constrained. He received the second message during this day. Observer just posted them out of order.

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Transmit: Submits a message to be sent anonymously to any previously constrained player. Can be used once each day and night for each target.

He is allowed to send one during the day and one during the night.

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I vote

Aristocrat

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I vote

Aristocrat

Considering that we have actual proof that Dem0n is lying about being an Investigator, you still vote Aristocrat? Interesting move.

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Yeah, it's mob rule around these parts! Step into line or we'll suspect you of something!

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