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Question about spells?
Jun 22 2010, 10:25 pm
By: tentons01  

Jun 22 2010, 10:25 pm tentons01 Post #1



Is there any way to make Psi storm do more damage, or make the optical flare spell do damage? I have seen the Storm spell do more damage in some maps, but im not sure how to do that. Btw i use smcdraft



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Jun 22 2010, 10:35 pm Aristocrat Post #2



Quote from tentons01
I have seen the Storm spell do more damage in some maps
Not without modding or using unused upgrades (not recommended).

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jun 23 2010, 2:52 pm by NudeRaider. Reason: removed confusing part



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Jun 22 2010, 10:38 pm tentons01 Post #3



i think this is the map, idk if it is protected or not

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Jun 22 2010, 10:49 pm Tempz Post #4



Unknown Upgrade 60 which even though little is known by me about i know for a fact not only does this upgrade increases

Building defenses
Storm Damage
Worker Attack Damage
Plague Damage
Irradiate Damage

For other effects I don't know, all i know is this is the only unknown upgrade that does anything and that this upgrade works only on things that cannot be upgraded by normal means except maybe protoss buildings (unsure)



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Jun 22 2010, 10:51 pm tentons01 Post #5



so how much does the damage go up per upgrade? and what do you mean building defences



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Jun 22 2010, 10:57 pm Sacrieur Post #6

Still Napping

I think each upgrade adds +8 dmg to storm.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jun 23 2010, 4:52 am by Sacrieur.



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Jun 22 2010, 10:58 pm tentons01 Post #7



nevermind, i got it. where do you upgrade that at? i cant find anything listed as unknown upgrade 60, i found a few unknown upgrades, but there are no where near 60 of them



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Jun 22 2010, 11:06 pm poison_us Post #8

Back* from the grave

It's at the bottom of the upgrade pile.




Jun 22 2010, 11:29 pm ImagoDeo Post #9



Quote from tentons01
nevermind, i got it. where do you upgrade that at? i cant find anything listed as unknown upgrade 60, i found a few unknown upgrades, but there are no where near 60 of them

Allow me to clarify:

There are 60 upgrades in the game. The last 10 of them are unused. The last one is Unknown Upgrade #10, or Upgrade #60. Some people confuse this and call it Unknown Upgrade #60.

iirc it increases all defensive structure damage as well as what Tempz mentioned. Also, I believe it adds the base damage to Storm as upgrade damage per upgrade. So if the base damage is x, the upgraded damage will be x + (number of upgrades)x.

I stand corrected - it is +8 damage per upgrade. That would be +1 damage per tick, and it ticks every eight frames.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jun 23 2010, 1:00 am by ImagoDeo.



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Jun 22 2010, 11:52 pm Aristocrat Post #10



Quote from Lanthanide
Actually, Aristocrat, it is completely possible.

Storm is the *only* spell that can have it's damage increased by using UnusedUpgrade 8. Check the oldwiki articles on upgrades and spells. Note that the UnusedUpgrade also affects a bunch of other things, most notably it adds 1 point of armor to buildings.
Quote from Aristocrat
Impossible. Post the map[s] you're talking about? As far as I know there is absolutely no way to modify the damage of spells without modding or using unused upgrades (not recommended).

:rolleyes:

Instead of increasing the damage of Psionic storm, why not just reduce the health of units to get the same net effect?



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Jun 23 2010, 12:00 am poison_us Post #11

Back* from the grave

He asked how to increase the damage psi storm puts out. We are simply answering his question.




Jun 23 2010, 12:06 am rockz Post #12

ᴄʜᴇᴇsᴇ ɪᴛ!

http://www.staredit.net/wiki.php?article=Upgrades
http://www.staredit.net/wiki.php?article=spells_%28protoss%29

Everything you could possibly want to know on the subject. You can't make optical flare do damage.



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Jun 23 2010, 2:49 am Lanthanide Post #13



Ok sorry Aristocrat, didn't see the end bit there. I'd suggest that saying "Impossible" as your first answer isn't really very helpful, though, because there *is* a way, and it's up to the mapmaker to decide whether the known methods are suitable for their purpose. You'll notice that I actually deleted my post from this thread anyway, but Sacrieur quoted it anyway.

Also, as rockz pointed out, the articles do still exist. All of the old wiki exists, you just have to use links from the Articles or Tutorials master list, rather than clicking on fast links on the wiki section.



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Jun 23 2010, 4:53 am Sacrieur Post #14

Still Napping

Quote from Lanthanide
Also, as rockz pointed out, the articles do still exist. All of the old wiki exists, you just have to use links from the Articles or Tutorials master list, rather than clicking on fast links on the wiki section.

Yeah, fix'd, the links from using the search function are broke.



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