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The Blasphemy Challenge!!!101!
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Nov 24 2007, 5:46 pm Akar Post #61



Show me one thing humans haven't messed up.



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Nov 24 2007, 6:04 pm AntiSleep Post #62



Akar, are you going to apologize for trying to peddle willfully ignorant conjecture of biology, chemistry, and optics as a proof of god, or are you going to confront the people that fostered your ignorance?



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Nov 24 2007, 7:00 pm Demented Shaman Post #63



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I say the bible is a work of the flying spaghetti monster, canceling out any divine calling, and making it a bunch of ficticious junk. Show me how your intrepretation is any more credible than mine, please.
Funny, you don't have any supporting evidence, and here I shall disprove evolution:

Well, as it says here, plants existed at least 2 billion years before anything else came into evolution. But here is whats so silly, you see, plants need carbon dioxide correct? And well, they use it all up and release lots of oxygen into the air. Now the reverse of this process, cellular respiration, takes that oxygen (and some other things), and releases a byproduct of carbon dioxide. Ahh, but here is our flaw. There was nothing that could possibly convert the oxygen back into carbon dioxide. So all of the carbon dioxide on the Earth would slowly be drained. And over 2 billion years?! Oh please, thats a hell of a long time to drain all of the carbon dioxide on the Earth.
You might say, oh well, "the plants adapted to the lack of carbon dioxide".
How would that work? By the time the carbon dioxide levels are low enough for the plants of notice, I doubt they'll have a few million years left to adapt to it.

Another example how God exists, just look around you, in the dark that is. You ever wonder how you see in the dark? You have 2 lenses, a color lens that works just like a camera lens... and then you have a night vision lens... that circles around your color lens. And you can still detect 3D objects in night vision. So explain to me this, How in the hell can you even see at night when your night-vision lens has a big hole in it?

And another thing, since us humans are so great and powerful because we can figure out where we came from all by ourselves, why can't we fix our own damn problems we cause? Oh wait, thats because everything we touch gets screwed up. Where animals live in perfect balance with each other, we charge in and disrupt the balance. So how do you know these HUMAN theories aren't as screwed up as everything else we've applied. Now I know God's word isn't screwed up, because it wasn't written by HUMANS it was written by God. And still humans have managed to screw even that up as well!
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Nov 24 2007, 7:06 pm Demented Shaman Post #64



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Show me one thing humans haven't messed up.
You're right Akar. Our theory of gravity is also messed up. It's really gnomes. Electricity is also just gnomes as well. Atoms don't exist either, it's just gnomes again. Tiny tiny invisible gnomes. AND GUESS WHO MADE THE GNOMES? GOD. DUH.



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Nov 24 2007, 7:15 pm Demented Shaman Post #65



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I say the bible is a work of the flying spaghetti monster, canceling out any divine calling, and making it a bunch of ficticious junk. Show me how your intrepretation is any more credible than mine, please.
Funny, you don't have any supporting evidence, and here I shall disprove evolution:

Well, as it says here, plants existed at least 2 billion years before anything else came into evolution. But here is whats so silly, you see, plants need carbon dioxide correct? And well, they use it all up and release lots of oxygen into the air. Now the reverse of this process, cellular respiration, takes that oxygen (and some other things), and releases a byproduct of carbon dioxide. Ahh, but here is our flaw. There was nothing that could possibly convert the oxygen back into carbon dioxide. So all of the carbon dioxide on the Earth would slowly be drained. And over 2 billion years?! Oh please, thats a hell of a long time to drain all of the carbon dioxide on the Earth.
You might say, oh well, "the plants adapted to the lack of carbon dioxide".
How would that work? By the time the carbon dioxide levels are low enough for the plants of notice, I doubt they'll have a few million years left to adapt to it.

Another example how God exists, just look around you, in the dark that is. You ever wonder how you see in the dark? You have 2 lenses, a color lens that works just like a camera lens... and then you have a night vision lens... that circles around your color lens. And you can still detect 3D objects in night vision. So explain to me this, How in the hell can you even see at night when your night-vision lens has a big hole in it?

And another thing, since us humans are so great and powerful because we can figure out where we came from all by ourselves, why can't we fix our own damn problems we cause? Oh wait, thats because everything we touch gets screwed up. Where animals live in perfect balance with each other, we charge in and disrupt the balance. So how do you know these HUMAN theories aren't as screwed up as everything else we've applied. Now I know God's word isn't screwed up, because it wasn't written by HUMANS it was written by God. And still humans have managed to screw even that up as well!
It's sad that you don't realize what you just said is utter bullshit, you actually think you're making sound logical arguments.



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Nov 24 2007, 7:18 pm Syphon Post #66



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We need more enlightened thinkers.
That wont fix the problem when 1000s of teens are throwing away their life.

Because a life without religion is meaningless!

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You can't prove it, as a matter of fact you or I can't prove anything.

Yes you fucking can.

I am sick of you metaphysical types denouncing the reality of observation. 2 + 2 does indeed = 4. Don't read too much into it.



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Nov 24 2007, 7:21 pm Demented Shaman Post #67



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You can't prove it, as a matter of fact you or I can't prove anything.

Yes you fucking can.

I am sick of you metaphysical types denouncing the reality of observation. 2 + 2 does indeed = 4. Don't read too much into it.
Yea, they selectively try to apply logic, and then when they're wrong they pose questions such as OH HOW CAN YOU REALLY "KNOW" ANYTHING ANYWAY? WHAT IS THE "MEANING OF LIFE". IS THERE SUCH A THING AS ABSOLUTE TRUTH? HOW DO I REALLY KNOW YOU EXIST? WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO EXIST? WHAT IS REALITY? blah blah blah, fuck you.



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Nov 24 2007, 7:40 pm Akar Post #68



I found something very interesting after studying this topic.
You see, the bible states the verse Mark 3:29 BEFORE Jesus was crucified. Of course this is insignificant to those who are ignorant. However, Jesus's crucification was the turning point between 2 administrations, the law administration, and the grace administration. We live in the grace administration. People like Noah, Moses, and Jonah lived in the law administration.
After Jesus was crucified the grace administration came to be, and all the law written after that applies to us. However, this verse came before that, so it applies to the law administration, NOT the grace administration.
The devil is a clever little bastard isn't he?



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Nov 24 2007, 8:08 pm Demented Shaman Post #69



Your implication fails, but then again its set in a fantasy world so it doesn't even matter.



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Nov 24 2007, 8:23 pm Akar Post #70



You do realize your meaningless posts are merely a waste of your time? I directed that to those who want to listen.



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Nov 24 2007, 8:44 pm Demented Shaman Post #71



You do realize your meaningless posts are merely a waste of your time? I directed that to those who want to listen.



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Nov 24 2007, 8:59 pm WoAHorde Post #72



Quote from Akar
I found something very interesting after studying this topic.
You see, the bible states the verse Mark 3:29 BEFORE Jesus was crucified. Of course this is insignificant to those who are ignorant. However, Jesus's crucification was the turning point between 2 administrations, the law administration, and the grace administration. We live in the grace administration. People like Noah, Moses, and Jonah lived in the law administration.
After Jesus was crucified the grace administration came to be, and all the law written after that applies to us. However, this verse came before that, so it applies to the law administration, NOT the grace administration.
The devil is a clever little bastard isn't he?

Can you attempt to prove a god without a work of fiction?



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Nov 24 2007, 9:16 pm Akar Post #73



Yes, and I will succeed in my attempt as well.
There is archaeological evidence confirming the bible.
Ahh, here is a good one. The Egyptian hieroglyphics depict the plague of many frogs. They have the hieroglyph of Heket, the goddess of fertility, which was a frog. The next one was a tadpole, meaning 100,000 or mulitude. This was found in a tomb painting in Thebes (around 20th century BC). This was depicting the biblical plague.



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Nov 24 2007, 9:35 pm WoAHorde Post #74



You danced around my question, and attempted to prove a book written by man describing a god is correct. The Bible twists real events into fairy tales.



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Nov 24 2007, 9:37 pm AntiSleep Post #75



Akar, You do not have enough credibility to claim ANYTHING confirms your god, not without justifying your earlier statements. Either you can back up your claims with credible references, or I will assume you know as much about history as you do about science.
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the plants adapted to the lack of carbon dioxide".
How would that work? By the time the carbon dioxide levels are low enough for the plants of notice, I doubt they'll have a few million years left to adapt to it.
plants aerobically respirate at night, producing CO2 and water from oxygen and stored hydrocarbons, it is how they make use of the energy stored by photosynthesis. Some bacteria also aerobically respirate.
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Another example how God exists, just look around you, in the dark that is. You ever wonder how you see in the dark? You have 2 lenses, a color lens that works just like a camera lens... and then you have a night vision lens... that circles around your color lens. And you can still detect 3D objects in night vision. So explain to me this, How in the hell can you even see at night when your night-vision lens has a big hole in it?
This is wrong, We have cones(which are sensitive to only specific colors of light) and rods(which detect light of any color) in both eyes, and the same lens focuses light on both the cones and the rods which are interspersed in the retina. There is a hole in our vision at the point the optic nerve enters the eye (all vision, not just night), but this hole is in the periphery, and the brain just kinda fills it in with whatever surrounds it. Also, It would not matter if there was a hole in the lens, next time you have access to a telescope or something, cover half of the front lens, the result is not half a picture, but a full picture at half the brightness, because you do not change the focal point, only the amount of light gathered. Also, it is not the focus of the lens that gives us depth perception, we get our depth perception from the parallax perspective of our eyes (stereoscopic vision).

The bottom line: Don't try to bullshit people who know what they are talking about, you will only end up getting embarrassed.




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Nov 24 2007, 9:55 pm Golden-Fist Post #76



Hopefully akar blows up some building in the name of the lord or something so we don't have to be burdened with the knowledge that people like him actually exsist.



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Nov 24 2007, 10:23 pm Akar Post #77



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Akar, You do not have enough credibility to claim ANYTHING confirms your god, not without justifying your earlier statements. Either you can back up your claims with credible references, or I will assume you know as much about history as you do about science.
You're entirely correct, you can easily beat me in the topic of science, seeing as I do not have enough understanding of it.
However, in the topic of history, that was not me. If you wish to check the credibility of the sources of the archaeological finds, please refer to the people below:
Michael Avi-Yonah
Robert C. Dentan
Louis F. Hartman
Yehuda Makavy
Harry M. Orlinsky
They are the ones that helped put together a book I have.

And I will end with a quote I've said many times before.
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
You sirs, are lame.

I really don't mind so much that people denounce God. It is that they do not have an understanding of what they are denouncing.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Nov 24 2007, 10:30 pm by Akar.



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Nov 24 2007, 11:22 pm AntiSleep Post #78



You quote Einstein, who did not believe in a personal god, it is more accurate to say he was pantheist or deist. Also, science has heros, not prophets. Einstein was a great scientist, but that does not mean his religious views hold more merit than those of anyone else. I know precisely what I am denouncing, I denounce the idea that it is reasonable to believe miracles happen. I denounce the word supernatural. I denounce the idea of holding religious views immune to critical thinking.

Also, I do not care about people's names, show me some text and evidence.



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Nov 24 2007, 11:48 pm Dapperdan Post #79



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You're entirely correct, you can easily beat me in the topic of science, seeing as I do not have enough understanding of it.

Then are you going to apologize for trying to pass off your uninformed science as proof that god exists?



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Nov 25 2007, 12:20 am JordanN Post #80



Wait. Religion can be without science because religion started science.



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