Uhh, I'm seeing tha the processor is better, based on the site you just cited, except in like 4 or 5 of the 30 categories, but that's to be expected based on the 200MHz lower clock speed. Not being able to overclock is definitely a concern though.
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I don't know why he linked you that.
This is what you should be looking at. I'll also point out that there IS no AMD Phenom x4 810. There is a Phenom II x4 810, and HP made a mistake on that site. Do you really want to buy from a company that makes errors like that? It's also really hard to compare quad cores to dual cores, since in multithreaded tasks, the quad core is always going to win. You really have to go by price. The propus ($100) is probably about 20% better than the e6300 ($80) due to the extra 2 cores being utilized. Disable 2 of those cores and it's a different story.
As for comparing those 2 computers:
CPU - HP (20%)
RAM - HP (barely)
HDD - tie
GFX - ex (50%+)
Case - ex
mobo - ex (plus OC/easy replacement)
PSU - ex (by a lot)
Everything else - tie or slight advantage towards ex, due to quality.
Not being able to overclock shouldn't be much of a concern, unless your brother wants to take care of the computer. I think it's stupid to overclock someone else's computer, and most of the time overclocking is pointless. Why overclock when everything you want runs at a perfectly acceptable speed?
@ shadowflare
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't look very hard.
This one uses DDR2 and is $10 cheaper, but since this will be a somewhat gaming computer, it's moot.
@Johnny
Triple channel is significantly better than dual channel, probably by, uh, 50%. I also don't think that motherboard will be on triple channel, as you need a motherboard with 3 channels to utilize it. That motherboard only has 2 channels. I don't know how it works anymore, but I also think if you use 3 sticks, you'll be running them on single channel rather than dual channel.
the second number tells you the quality of the card. The first number tells you the generation (at least for nvidia and old ATi). New ATi goes by a slightly different standard, since the 3rd number is sort of included with the 2nd number. Typically you can go up a generation and down 1 on the quality, and you'll have equal cards (9600=8800). I don't understand the GTS/GTX scheme of things on the nVidia side. I'm glad ATi got rid of that with the HD 3xxx series.
Rockz, that's a joke of a computer and you know it, for one, you are lacking an operating system, which this computer came with, not to mention this wasn't a horribly lame computer, for the price it was extremely impressive, I'd say ranking up there with some of the computers I've seen posted here going for at least 400$.
You are correct in some ways. I came out with $400 with a $30 Windows 7. It had much better RAM, PSU, and CPU. Why? Because you can't buy Agenas anymore. AMD is sold out. DDR2 isn't being manufactured anymore (it used to be $35 for 4 GB, now it's $60 for high end DDR2). These are refurbs, and were bought a while ago, using spare parts. They really aren't making much money off of these (might be losing money).
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