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...And you guys thought I was editing TS!

This map features turn-based combat taking place over real time among four players. A random player is selected to go first and others follow in sequence. During a player's turn, only he has command of his units. All the other players' units are controlled by the computer.

At the start of a player's turn, the player gains income and then has 47 seconds to perform all tasks for that turn -- be it building, fighting, expanding, teching, preparing for defense or the next turn, or some combination thereof. Beacons are located around the map and are captured for resources and troops. Players expand to them and fight over them to gain more money and troops to conquer their opponents. It's a free for all and the goal is to eliminate all other players.

DOWNLOADS:
http://www.staredit.net/files/1569/
http://sc.nibbits.com/maps/project/77897/47


Specs, Basic Information, Features
* 2-4 to Players
* Terrain is Jungle, 128x128
* A typical game can last 60+ minutes.
* Random tips are included for new players.
* It has similarities to strategy games like RISK. Minus that nasty randomization of die rolling.


Resources
* A detailed overanalysis of various openings can be found here.
* The map looks like this at the start.


Income Calculation
Every turn, players get income:
* Owning at least 1 Command Center = +3 minerals
* Each beacon = +1.25 mineral (round down, so bonus every 4)
* Each beacon spawns one Marine.
* Each Supply Depot = +1 (max 20)
* 4 Gas per turn. No more, no less.
(Note that players start with 10 income -- 4 Beacons (5), 2 Supply Depots, and 1 CC. (3))


Most Recent Changes
Beta 002 - 10.05.2009
- Fixed a few of the tip strings.
- Increased base armor of Firebats from 3 to 4.
- Increased maximum upgrades for Terran Vehicle Weapons/Plating from 1 to 2.
- Decreased armor of Vulture from 2 to 1.
- Decreased armor of Siege Tank from 5 to 4.
- Decreased armor of Goliath from 4 to 3.

Beta 001 - 10.04.2009
- Added welcome message and tester credits.
- Added custom score turns counter to leaderboard.
- Added random tips at end of turn.
- Added the briefing.
- Added a .WAV when your turn is starting.
- Added victory and defeat triggers with single player testing mode.
- Decreased time between leaderboard changes.
- Fixed issues with fog of war on left side.
- Put a build time of 1s on Vultures, Siege Tanks and Goliaths.
- Changed cost of Vultures from 6m/1g to 7m/0g.
- Increased mineral cost of Goliaths from 7 to 10.
- Increased mineral cost of Siege Tanks from 10 to 12.
- Increased Spider Mine damage from 67 to 97.
- Decreased cost of Vulture Speed from 30m/4g to 25m/2g.


Note: I have included the Alpha version documentation for those wishing to track the progress of the map or imagine the horrors of early versions.



Screenshots

Conflict between me and FaRTy.


Turn endings create funny breaks in the action.


Doodle and FaRTy are building up a lot of troops. They definitely aren't cooperating.


CAFG starts getting belligerent with Doodle.


CAFG continues pushing into Doodle's land.


Doodle lands a Barracks in CAFG's territory and pumps out a lot of Marines. (Note: This game was from Alpha 004, before Marines had a 1s build time.)


CAFG betrays me and fails to kill me, so I start lay down the law.


Eventually I push all the way into CAFG's income, crippling him and eliminating him soon after.


The battle for the world continues... eventually the struggle ends with me on top.


This game was a three and a half hour epic. Those are some big score numbers!


Many, many troops were made and lost, though the loss numbers seem understated here.


The income totals for the game. I guess it worked out that I was the only one caring about income and territories for the last hour of the game. Also, I was serious about the 4 gas.

Post has been edited 3 time(s), last time on Dec 1 2012, 3:58 pm by Mini Moose 2707. Reason: Updating Topic, adding Nibbits link

Is there any real significance behind the use of 47? Or is it just random number that was thought up and it rolled off the tongue. The map looks really nice though, I've always loved tactical warfare, but turn-based? What a twist!

Wow, that must be a nice game!
I just dislike how the map seems to have -very- linear cliffs... not looking too natural, but anyways!

46 was too small, 48 was too large and the other numbers between them aren't natural numbers.

It's okay, I didn't make the terrain. You could say that the terrain for this map was already in your maps folder.

If you guys give it a play, let me know what you think.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 6 2009, 3:26 am by Mini Moose 2707.

47 finally told its name to the world.

If anyone ever wants to play this with me I will drop w/e I am doing and make it happen. Terribly fun map to play.

I just finished an over-3hours game with Vrael and Moose (excluding that guy that was afk at the start and that left).
... I won, of course
That was a nice play

At start, you think turn based of 47 seconds will be boring, but at the end, you just do not have enough time to do anything and it takes you 4 turns to f*cking bring your whoel army to the same spot to only prepare an attack. Next turn, you waste it on hotkey'ing the huge army you have, etc.

This is awesome

Terrain is disgusting. I ask that you let me rectify this situation.

Please?

Thou shalt not defile (4)Lost Civilizations ;o

I've already proposed myself

Btw, remove that (4) in front of the filename

no reason to.

BUG: I was orange, and I allied white and teal in order to show them my pings, since allying doesnt affect your gameplay 1 bit. The thing is, as soon as teal killed white's last building, the scenario ended in defeat for me, and defeat(or it could have been draw) for teal and white.

Allying fucks with the victory/defeat conditions.

I just played, I like the concept.
You get a little time to breathe and analyze what the enemy is doing instead of mashing hotkeys on your own barracks/factory all the time.
There's also some smart positioning so your enemy cant attack you with higher upgrades late game, while the early game is a land grab. It's kind of cool how it changes.

Didn't notice any bugs, though it would be nice if the beacons changed their color back - i know this might not be possible as you would need another player to be light blue. My biggest complaint is that its a little annoying to be scrambling to try to move all your men as soon as possible, since they spawn all over the place. I dont have the korean micro for 25+ beacons making men in 47 seconds. Finally, sometimes the computer, while on defense, goes haywire with tanks and goliaths (i didnt try vultures) The tank/gol walks up to the enemy, not shooting but kinda.. spasm rotating and just casually dances until it dies.

Oh moose, I suggest trigger-removing the computers that have no human to control them.
Edit: To specify, I mean only if theres no human at the very start.

Edit: Also, you have a tip that says Ghosts with +3 Attack kill defending marines in 3 hits. This is not true.
Marine = 47 Hp. Ghost = 10 + 2 (so level 3 is 10 + 6 for 16 damage)
I think you forgot defending has 1 armor. The ghost does 15 damage per hit, after the 3rd hit the marine has 2 hp left.

Edit: A multi-select hack would be uber in this map. I strongly suggest you try putting in EUD anti-hack triggers. I can help/give you the files needed.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Oct 11 2009, 3:42 pm by Tank_7.

Your biggest complaint is the biggest gameplay factor behind the game >.> it's makes the game not only about strategy, it makes it also about skill.

If you have 25+ beacons you've already won...

True. Good thing we call all see and tell at all times. Moose doesn't like having euds in his maps.

Why? To make it easier for the 2 players that don't have an enemy to the left/right of them?

No its just a bit ugly figuring out who's your enemy.

By the way I find Orange always goes first, but maybe its just been my luck.

They're all your enemy >.>

I've seen oj go first in all my games as well.

I shall try it out!

At first I thought this had something to do with Hitman lol

Looks great Moose! I'll check it out.

About the enemy thing, I meant like if there isnt all 4 players, 1v1 or 3 person FFA, I didnt remember which corners of the map were effectively inactive. I wanted to know so I could expand appropriately.

Will fix in the next version.

It's part of the bad AI that would be too difficult time-consuming to fix. It's part of the downside to using Mechs and AI control is just one downside to it being someone else's turn.

Apparently I noted it but it wasn't actually done. Like when I first enabled Firebats. ;o

All your games? I remember playing enough games with you to know that's bull.

It's the four slots running clockwise from top left. Or if you know your trigonometry, ASTC reflected over the y-axis.
Or you can just check the minimap for Player 12 beacons in the middle of someone's base.

Good, let me know what you guys think.