oh just shut up. Thanks to you, I also noticed that I forgot that it's -b ± the square root of the discriminant.

working off of that it's:
-3 ± (-3² - 4(4 * 5))^½
------------- = 3
2(4)

-3 ± (9 - 80)^½
---------------- = 3
8
And once again, I doubt DTBK has an i in his age, unless his age is imaginary. The reason why I messed up before is probably because I realized I was going to get an imaginary number when I was typing the discriminant, so I really didn't need to pay attention anyways

I am sorry, I don't know why I typed underrated. It's not a clue, just my mistake. It is now corrected.

I would also like to note that the PM about me being inactive was sent to all players of the game, not just mafia players.

Finally, I think it would be fair to help you guys a bit with the clue-solving:

1. devilesk doing 1st grade math at the age of 4 is a red herring. It is useless.

2. The DTBK age clue is hidden somewhere in here:

3. The moose origin clue consists of more than one part. All the parts can be found here:

I am doing this mainly because I am glad that you guys are trying so hard. Keep it up.

Moose died at 14:10, and from the Bible:
Source: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+14:10-12

Just thought it looked a little suspicious .

Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/370 - What happened in the year 370 according to Wikipedia.

JaFF, i never understand why you bother to end up telling people what red herrings are and where they can find the clues. I know this is not actually relating to the game... but it wouldn't surprise me if you did the same thing for real clues leading to mafia. It kind of defeats the purpose of people figuring out the clues on their own.

Like, last game, you would point out when there were 'hard clues' or 'easy clues' in a post, and give hints as to how to find them and shit. I totally disagree with that philosophy. It's lame for the townies that would like to figure out clues on their own, like they're supposed to, and it's an added advantage you're giving to the town which is unfair to the mafia.

Translation: Whaaaaa!!! *Tears Tears* I am angry mafia!!!

No, I'm questioning the way JaFF runs his game. He has lots of trouble keeping quiet about his clues until the end of the game, so as a result, he starts giving away little things all the time so that he satisfy his urges to tell people all his brilliant clues. It skews the balance and makes it less fun for the townies to find the clues, in my opinion.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Aug 22 2009, 7:23 am by Dapperdan.

Why are you trolling?

I promise you, I'm not that invested in the game that I would complain purely out of my own interests to win the game.

Why am I trolling!? Well, let me ask YOU something- though guy. Why are you trying to invade my town?

To kill off people like you.

+1

QQ Norm, Dapper was merely pointing out that JaFF likes to show bits of his clues while the game is still running, which is unfair to both the Mafia and to the townies that like to have an unbiased [as much as possible] view of clues.

Personally, I like having little hints for this, but once the real clues start, I'd rather not have my hand held like a little child. I don't usually trust what others say, and if it conforms to my idea of who is Mafia and who is not, I'd probably end up switching to a townie on accident.

Let's all back off a little and stop the flaming, okay?

Also, JaFF sent along the actions that were PMed to him, so no need to resend them to me.

If it's day yet, I vote to lynch Norm.

I actually agree with Dapperdan. You shouldn't be giving us hints to how to solve the clues, especially when it comes to the actual mafia clues, though on the other hand, I don't know if placing red herrings is quite fair either, we really have no way to figure out if something is a clue or a red herring.

On a different note, is there a word that represents a number where if you subtract an 'a' you get another word that is stll a number?

I say we all just try to have fun. Maybe we're just getting full of angst waiting for the first day to start.

agreed

It's clearly not day yet...

Red herrings may or may not be fair - but they have been a staple in the game for a long time. I feel that as long as something is identifiable as a possible red herring due to some nature of the clue, then it's fair. It's not like a bunch of red herrings are included that lead right to people that aren't mafia (unless on accident). Most of the 'red herrings' in clue writing just come about via the need to add details in the process of writing a good day/night post. Red herrings that are just superfluous information can't really be avoided so i wouldn't in any sense question their fairness.

The only red herrings i'd consider unfair are ones directly leading to non-mafia that aren't easily questioned for being blatantly obvious or very obscure when found.

I am disappointed that I still have not received several players' night actions. Nonetheless, I will be writing and posting the day post later today.

im just stating that I would like to lynch norm

Dear Reader,

This next letter details the atrocities of the night following JaFF's death. The town was little prepared for the terrible wrath of Dapperdan, and on the first night the inhabitants of Kruserville naively walked out in the darkness, going to parties and talking to each other.

I shall begin with describing the murder I witnessed. I was in the local bar at around ten o'clock enjoying a drink. Next to me, there were two men. They both appeared to be drinking heavily, but upon closer examination one of them was clearly abstaining from his drink quite a lot. His fellow was growing more and more intoxicated as the night wore on and the bar began to empty. The conversation fell to the recent death of the mob boss, JaFF.

“You know, Roger, I'm not too.. scared of them mafia now,” slurred the drunken man. “I don't think they've got the guts to show their faces after their dear leader got himself blown up.” The man called Roger roared with laughter.

“What's funny,” he said, grabbing the other man by the throat, “is that they sent me here to kill you!” The drunken man's eyes dilated in fear as he realized his end was at hand. The mafia threw him to the floor, smashing his face in with a boot heel. The mafia smiled, enjoying the spectacle for a minute, before drawing a handgun and emptying the clip into the wretched man's face. The mafia then left the bar with its patrons too petrified to move, much less call the police. The body of Ashamed lay on the floor, oozing blood from many head wounds.

The rest of the night's actions came to me through the rumor mill. I heard one mafia's attack was foiled by wet detonator caps, but there were other attacks that resulted in grim success for Dapperdan's campaign of fear.

Later that night, I heard, Zycorax was out for a stroll when he was involved in an unlucky turn of events. As he passed a gap between two buildings, a man jumped out of the pitch-black void and tackled poor Zycorax. They say the mafia was wearing army-surplus camo and moved with lithe efficiency. He quickly dispatched Zycorax's life, before sprinting away into the night. The body of Zycorax was discovered much later, his skin slashed to shreds, leading police to look for a man wielding a wicked set of knives.

Around midnight, Jesusfreak was returning from a house call out in the country. Driving along the farm road, he was so tired that he almost slammed into the tree trunk that had been set across the road. Instead, he slammed on the brakes and got out to look. Before he even really thought of a trap, there was the stutter of a semiautomatic weapon and he staggered to the ground. A mafia stepped into the moonlight, checked to make sure his target was dead, and disappeared into the orchard next to the road. At dawn, the owners of the farm ventured out to find that the brave man who had saved their son's life could not save his own. The corpse of Jesusfreak lay cold and smelly in the ditch by the road.

Sometime past two, xAngelSpiritx was out on his porch stargazing when he heard a sound at the gate. Cautious, he reached for his flashlight to investigate the disturbance. By the time he could turn the light on, it was to reveal the form of Dapperdan standing before him.

“Foolish townsperson,” sneered Dapperdan. “You are no match for me.”

“But I have a trick up my sleeve,” cackled xAngelSpiritx. He suddenly lunged for Dapperdan's throat, but the skilled mafia boss was too fast. xAngelSpiritx was pierced by the cold steel of Dapperdan's katana before he could lay a hand on the don.

Following the disastrous toll of the night, the townsfolk of Kruserville awoke this morning to find themselves four people short. We know we can but follow DT_Battlekruser's instructions, and lynch someone today. I will continue to record the sorry history of this town until my death, or our triumph. Hopefully we will choose a mafia...

Yours truly,
X


***DAY 2 START***

Three days to unravel clues and vote to lynch. Good luck.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Aug 23 2009, 3:52 am by DT_Battlekruser. Reason: trivial tense and grammar