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Aug 17 2009, 3:50 pm Bar Refaeli Post #241



the problem with that is that you get stunned for 2.17 seconds and channeling time for his ultimate is 2 seconds. So if magmus can activate his ultimate at max .16 seconds after the stun, then you get hit by his ultimate, which would either kill you and give you next to low hp.



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Aug 17 2009, 4:06 pm Excalibur Post #242

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Which is why he's hard to solo, so you do not solo him. He is to be ganked.




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Aug 17 2009, 5:23 pm Forsaken Archer Post #243



You have more than half a second I believe. It's not that big of a problem honestly. You just have to stun him, it's easy.
Only problem when he channels first and then he portal keys. Range damage him if he channels from far away to create a cool down on key.
As long as you avoid him early game, it's not a problem.



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Aug 17 2009, 5:45 pm Bar Refaeli Post #244



i got pwned when i was kraken so i think my current best hero is either acursed or magmus.

Quote from Name:Lava">http://heroes-newerth.com/heroes/magmus]Lava Surge:
Riding on lava, Magmus surges toward a target location,
damaging and stunning enemy units in his path.
Level 1 : Teleports self to location dealing 100 magic damage and stunning all in his path for 2.17 seconds. Range 400
Level 2 : Teleports self to location dealing 160 magic damage and stunning all in his path for 2.17 seconds. Range 500
Level 3 : Teleports self to location dealing 220 magic damage and stunning all in his path for 2.17 seconds. Range 600
Level 4 : Teleports self to location dealing 280 magic damage and stunning all in his path for 2.17 seconds. Range 700
Mana cost 140
Cooldown 11 seconds

Eruption
Magmus channels the power of the lava,
releasing it after a short delay. The resulting lava
grows over time, damaging nearby enemies over
several seconds.
Level 1 : After channeling time deals 110 damage every 0.35 seconds for 2.1 seconds.
Level 2 : After channeling time deals 110 damage every 0.35 seconds for 2.8 seconds.
Level 3 : After channeling time deals 110 damage every 0.35 seconds for 3.5 seconds.
Mana Cost 175/250/325
Cooldown 140/120/100 seconds
Channeling time 2 seconds
Radius grows from 300 to 550/675/550 over 2.1/2.8/3.5 seconds




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Aug 17 2009, 7:23 pm Decency Post #245



Yes Raccoon, but you're assuming that there is no cast time after the stun takes effect, which is not the case.



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Aug 18 2009, 1:09 am Bar Refaeli Post #246



Question about predator:

I'm confused about the Carnivorous spell. Does Predator only and always deal physical damage to targets equal to 4%/5%/6%/7% of their current health, so attack strength doesn't matter, because he always does the same damage to a unit?



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Aug 18 2009, 1:31 am Phobos Post #247

Are you sure about that?

I would think the damage of that ability is additional. Besides, it decays with the target's health.



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Aug 18 2009, 2:15 am Thuy Post #248



it's his normal + the additional %



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Aug 18 2009, 2:35 am Forsaken Archer Post #249



Quote from Name:Lava">http://heroes-newerth.com/heroes/magmus]Lava Surge:
Riding on lava, Magmus surges toward a target location,
damaging and stunning enemy units in his path.
Level 1 : Teleports self to location dealing 100 magic damage and stunning all in his path for 2.17 seconds. Range 400
Level 2 : Teleports self to location dealing 160 magic damage and stunning all in his path for 2.17 seconds. Range 500
Level 3 : Teleports self to location dealing 220 magic damage and stunning all in his path for 2.17 seconds. Range 600
Level 4 : Teleports self to location dealing 280 magic damage and stunning all in his path for 2.17 seconds. Range 700
Mana cost 140
Cooldown 11 seconds

Eruption
Magmus channels the power of the lava,
releasing it after a short delay. The resulting lava
grows over time, damaging nearby enemies over
several seconds.
Level 1 : After channeling time deals 110 damage every 0.35 seconds for 2.1 seconds.
Level 2 : After channeling time deals 110 damage every 0.35 seconds for 2.8 seconds.
Level 3 : After channeling time deals 110 damage every 0.35 seconds for 3.5 seconds.
Mana Cost 175/250/325
Cooldown 140/120/100 seconds
Channeling time 2 seconds
Radius grows from 300 to 550/675/550 over 2.1/2.8/3.5 seconds

.17 + .5 second after-cast animation = .67 seconds



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Aug 18 2009, 5:14 am rockz Post #250

ᴄʜᴇᴇsᴇ ɪᴛ!

Sigh, like all S2 games, this has a serious lack of newbie support. Savage was worse, only because it's much much older, and everyone who plays it is a douche.

This will take me a good 50 games to even begin to figure out what units are what. 42 heros, 4 spells each, and ridiculous amounts of items.



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Aug 18 2009, 5:43 am Thuy Post #251



Quote from rockz
Sigh, like all S2 games, this has a serious lack of newbie support. Savage was worse, only because it's much much older, and everyone who plays it is a douche.

This will take me a good 50 games to even begin to figure out what units are what. 42 heros, 4 spells each, and ridiculous amounts of items.

what i did was i created a game and played by myself. i constantly remake to try out different heroes and what they do and on the hero selection screen i spent the whole 2 minutes or so looking at all the heroes.

i can't say i did this with all the heroes but about half. i just wanted to get a feel of how this hero plays and what to look out for when i go against them.



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Aug 18 2009, 10:58 am Neki Post #252



Quote from rockz
Sigh, like all S2 games, this has a serious lack of newbie support. Savage was worse, only because it's much much older, and everyone who plays it is a douche.

This will take me a good 50 games to even begin to figure out what units are what. 42 heros, 4 spells each, and ridiculous amounts of items.

That's how DoTA is too though. Lots of heroes and lots of items, gives you customization and flexibility but a huge learning curve. As long as you get the basics down, it shouldn't be too hard after awhile. I just hope everyone on HoN isn't as big as jerks as people playing pub games on battle.net are.



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Aug 18 2009, 2:21 pm l)ark_ssj9kevin Post #253

Just here for the activity... well not really

That's what the SEN players are here for!
Kicking your ass until you cry and quit
Helping you play your first games!



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Aug 18 2009, 2:23 pm Bar Refaeli Post #254



Yea. I'm still working on finding my best hero and all that.
Here's a great website that explains all the heroes: http://heroes-newerth.com/heroes
Also it has guides for items and heroes.
I'm just starting to be OK at the game, and my record went from something like 4-24 to 14-29



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Aug 18 2009, 10:36 pm Sand Wraith Post #255

she/her

Is it worth pre-ordering HoN?
Personally, I think it would be pretty cool. But not that I would need it. I probably couldn't, anyway.




Aug 19 2009, 12:13 am ShredderIV Post #256



ok, my best hero is officially tempest.

and i just played a game with a guy that was actually good with scout, and wound up getting 18 hk, twice as many as me, who was second best with 9.
so scout can be good, but maybe just because this guy was way mad pro.



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Aug 19 2009, 12:19 am l)ark_ssj9kevin Post #257

Just here for the activity... well not really

I might pre-order. I'll probably leech it off a friend because my birthday is approaching.



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Aug 19 2009, 12:35 am Excalibur Post #258

The sword and the faith

I could order it right now but I'd rather wait till I get some more money in my account. I encourage others to order it as well.




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Aug 19 2009, 12:47 am Kow Post #259



No reason not to pre-order it. It's not like it'll cost any different. I've already done so.



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Aug 19 2009, 1:48 am rockz Post #260

ᴄʜᴇᴇsᴇ ɪᴛ!

Very well then, it still seems WAY too complicated, but ah well.

Account is Whathuh (I think rockz was taken). My best char so far is behemoth, but I'm disappointed that I can't one hit legionnaires anymore. I've also played 3 games, so yeah, take that into account too.

Is there any story behind this, which made Ophelia and Jereziah decide to team up after they decided to completely hate each other?



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