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Learning how to code using HTML
Feb 13 2009, 4:53 am
By: Toothfariy  

Feb 16 2009, 7:13 pm Kellimus Post #21



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well a family member of mine is guna pay me to make a website for their concrete company and i told them that i would try to learn how to do it so i can make it for them

so you guys all agree that divs are better to use on a site? (i dont rlly know what that is yet tho)

Which I why I mentioned tables :fear:

Weither they agree or not, I think its good practice before you start on real stuff

No.. No its not.. Using Tables is a waste of time and makes websites look disgusting and takes way too much time to make them look pretty, when all you gotta do is create four DIV tags.

One for your background.

One for the 'left' section of your webpage, one for the 'middle' section, and one for the 'right' section.

Then you go in to your CSS and layout each DIV with its own 'class' setting up each width of each DIV and such...

Tables are tacky, and look like crap, even if they're invisible.



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Feb 17 2009, 1:32 am ShadowFlare Post #22



lol, what about the tables on my site? http://sfsrealm.hopto.org/

Note that the layout was made quite a few years ago, so divs were pretty much not usable at the time. :P There is probably a way to simplify it from that these days. Those tables are generated from a template that is used server-side, though, so I don't actually have to type in all of them.



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Feb 17 2009, 2:42 am Syphon Post #23



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lol, what about the tables on my site? http://sfsrealm.hopto.org/

Note that the layout was made quite a few years ago, so divs were pretty much not usable at the time. :P There is probably a way to simplify it from that these days. Those tables are generated from a template that is used server-side, though, so I don't actually have to type in all of them.

Actually, if I made that site, it'd be primarily based on <li>s, not <table>s or <div>s.



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Feb 17 2009, 4:31 am DaltonSerdynski Post #24



I have to take a site making class which also requires me to make a site. Any good tips please share :D



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Feb 17 2009, 4:33 am A_of-s_t Post #25

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Feb 17 2009, 8:57 pm Centreri Post #26

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Yes, that's a pretty good list. Keep the content easy to see, navigation easy, use a color scheme that doesn't kill your eyes, etc. And don't make it look like either A) A monkey did it or B) What you see on your site are the remains of your lunch.

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No.. No its not.. Using Tables is a waste of time and makes websites look disgusting and takes way too much time to make them look pretty, when all you gotta do is create four DIV tags.

One for your background.

One for the 'left' section of your webpage, one for the 'middle' section, and one for the 'right' section.

Then you go in to your CSS and layout each DIV with its own 'class' setting up each width of each DIV and such...

Tables are tacky, and look like crap, even if they're invisible.
It's very possible to use tables to make a website look good, and for many things tables are the best way to format something. It's just extra typing and might take longer for the browser to process it (which I assume is the main reason not to use tables), nothing else. Additionally, OW! While preparing to paste that quote, I hit my elbow on my desk and it hit the nerve. I hate that :P.



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Feb 17 2009, 9:07 pm Syphon Post #27



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Yes, that's a pretty good list. Keep the content easy to see, navigation easy, use a color scheme that doesn't kill your eyes, etc. And don't make it look like either A) A monkey did it or B) What you see on your site are the remains of your lunch.

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No.. No its not.. Using Tables is a waste of time and makes websites look disgusting and takes way too much time to make them look pretty, when all you gotta do is create four DIV tags.

One for your background.

One for the 'left' section of your webpage, one for the 'middle' section, and one for the 'right' section.

Then you go in to your CSS and layout each DIV with its own 'class' setting up each width of each DIV and such...

Tables are tacky, and look like crap, even if they're invisible.
It's very possible to use tables to make a website look good, and for many things tables are the best way to format something. It's just extra typing and might take longer for the browser to process it (which I assume is the main reason not to use tables), nothing else. Additionally, OW! While preparing to paste that quote, I hit my elbow on my desk and it hit the nerve. I hate that :P.

No, it's because it isn't semantically correct. Tables are for tabular data.



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Feb 17 2009, 10:23 pm Falkoner Post #28



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lol, what about the tables on my site? http://sfsrealm.hopto.org/

Note that the layout was made quite a few years ago, so divs were pretty much not usable at the time. :P There is probably a way to simplify it from that these days. Those tables are generated from a template that is used server-side, though, so I don't actually have to type in all of them.

That YesAsia thing at the top kills the rest of the site, although I think that it's still a bit plain otherwise, too much just plain black, and the banner should be bigger :-_-:



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Feb 17 2009, 11:22 pm ShadowFlare Post #29



lol, it seems the only commission I've even received from that was from an order I placed myself.



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Feb 18 2009, 10:31 pm Kellimus Post #30



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Quote from Centreri
Yes, that's a pretty good list. Keep the content easy to see, navigation easy, use a color scheme that doesn't kill your eyes, etc. And don't make it look like either A) A monkey did it or B) What you see on your site are the remains of your lunch.

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No.. No its not.. Using Tables is a waste of time and makes websites look disgusting and takes way too much time to make them look pretty, when all you gotta do is create four DIV tags.

One for your background.

One for the 'left' section of your webpage, one for the 'middle' section, and one for the 'right' section.

Then you go in to your CSS and layout each DIV with its own 'class' setting up each width of each DIV and such...

Tables are tacky, and look like crap, even if they're invisible.
It's very possible to use tables to make a website look good, and for many things tables are the best way to format something. It's just extra typing and might take longer for the browser to process it (which I assume is the main reason not to use tables), nothing else. Additionally, OW! While preparing to paste that quote, I hit my elbow on my desk and it hit the nerve. I hate that :P.

No, it's because it isn't semantically correct. Tables are for tabular data.

Like echoing out data into a Table from a Database and such like that.



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Feb 18 2009, 10:53 pm Centreri Post #31

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No, it's because it isn't semantically correct. Tables are for tabular data.
Oh, dear. Well, if it wasn't designed for it, it obviously shouldn't be adapted to it...

Yeah, thats not a real reason.

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Like echoing out data into a Table from a Database and such like that.
Oh, really? I didn't know what tabular data meant, thanks :D.



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Feb 18 2009, 11:55 pm Syphon Post #32



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No, it's because it isn't semantically correct. Tables are for tabular data.
Oh, dear. Well, if it wasn't designed for it, it obviously shouldn't be adapted to it...

Yeah, thats not a real reason.

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Like echoing out data into a Table from a Database and such like that.
Oh, really? I didn't know what tabular data meant, thanks :D.

No, it shouldn't be, as it's a semantic markup language, and using it incorrectly breaks web standards. People who break standards are dicks.



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Feb 19 2009, 12:09 am Corbo Post #33

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Quote from ShadowFlare
lol, what about the tables on my site? http://sfsrealm.hopto.org/

Note that the layout was made quite a few years ago, so divs were pretty much not usable at the time. :P There is probably a way to simplify it from that these days. Those tables are generated from a template that is used server-side, though, so I don't actually have to type in all of them.

That YesAsia thing at the top kills the rest of the site, although I think that it's still a bit plain otherwise, too much just plain black, and the banner should be bigger :-_-:
I spent like 3 hours once trying to figure out stuff on it before I realised there was an english version.



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Feb 19 2009, 12:34 am ShadowFlare Post #34



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Quote from Falkoner
That YesAsia thing at the top kills the rest of the site, although I think that it's still a bit plain otherwise, too much just plain black, and the banner should be bigger :-_-:
I spent like 3 hours once trying to figure out stuff on it before I realised there was an english version.
Did it default to Chinese or Japanese for you instead of English? Defaults to English for me, anywhere I've viewed it.



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Feb 26 2009, 10:45 pm Kellimus Post #35



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No, it's because it isn't semantically correct. Tables are for tabular data.
Oh, dear. Well, if it wasn't designed for it, it obviously shouldn't be adapted to it...

Yeah, thats not a real reason.

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Like echoing out data into a Table from a Database and such like that.
Oh, really? I didn't know what tabular data meant, thanks :D.

Just because people break standards (like Microsoft) doesn't mean its right to do.. Its just lame.



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