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I hate it when Christians demonise Muslims, without ever realising it's just an extension of Christianity.
Islam is an extension of Judaism, not Christianity (though they do recognize Jesus as a prophet). Christianity is also an extension of Judaism. Judaism is possibly an extension of Zoroastrianism.
Interesting comparison:
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/comparison_charts/islam_judaism_christianity.htm__
Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Jan 25 2009, 9:07 pm by Hercanic.
How is Islam an 'extention' of Christianity?
Muslims do not believe in Christ, they believe in Allah.. Christianity (all forms of it, Catholisism, LDS, Christian, etc...) followers worship Jesus Christ... So how is Islam an 'extention' when they only pray/worship Allah, which is their word for 'God'?
Muslims do believe in Christ. He's a prophet in the Koran, though he's called Isa there. The difference is that Muslims don't believe worship should be extended to anyone aside from God, whether it be Jesus, Moses, saints, etc. The Islamic belief is that Jesus was a holy prophet..but not that he was God's "son." Anyways it could be considered an extension because it's the youngest religion of the three, which are all linked by belief in the same God, albeit with different names.
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What Aster said above. The only way it isn't an extension is that they don't view Jesus as the son of God, but they still view him as one of the great prophets.
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How is Islam an 'extention' of Christianity?
Muslims do not believe in Christ, they believe in Allah.. Christianity (all forms of it, Catholisism, LDS, Christian, etc...) followers worship Jesus Christ... So how is Islam an 'extention' when they only pray/worship Allah, which is their word for 'God'?
Muslims do believe in Christ. He's a prophet in the Koran, though he's called Isa there. The difference is that Muslims don't believe worship should be extended to anyone aside from God, whether it be Jesus, Moses, saints, etc. The Islamic belief is that Jesus was a holy prophet..but not that he was God's "son." Anyways it could be considered an extension because it's the youngest religion of the three, which are all linked by belief in the same God, albeit with different names.
Hinduism believes in the same god as Christianity does, they just give him more forms.
Brahma. Everything. Nothing. "God". Has always 'been there'.
Brahma has three forms:
Brahman the Creator.
Vishnu the Protector.
Shiva the Destroyer.
Just like the Triad in Christianity in a sense.
So then wouldn't they all be an extension of Hinduism? Using the logic and reasoning you guys are, anyways.
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What Aster said above. The only way it isn't an extension is that they don't view Jesus as the son of God, but they still view him as one of the great prophets.
Alright, cool. So why are you changing your stance now? At least that's what it seems like, unless I'm misinterpreting your post.
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You're misinterpreting my post.
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How is Islam an 'extention' of Christianity?
Muslims do not believe in Christ, they believe in Allah.. Christianity (all forms of it, Catholisism, LDS, Christian, etc...) followers worship Jesus Christ... So how is Islam an 'extention' when they only pray/worship Allah, which is their word for 'God'?
Muslims do believe in Christ. He's a prophet in the Koran, though he's called Isa there. The difference is that Muslims don't believe worship should be extended to anyone aside from God, whether it be Jesus, Moses, saints, etc. The Islamic belief is that Jesus was a holy prophet..but not that he was God's "son." Anyways it could be considered an extension because it's the youngest religion of the three, which are all linked by belief in the same God, albeit with different names.
Hinduism believes in the same god as Christianity does, they just give him more forms.
Brahma. Everything. Nothing. "God". Has always 'been there'.
Brahma has three forms:
Brahman the Creator.
Vishnu the Protector.
Shiva the Destroyer.
Just like the Triad in Christianity in a sense.
So then wouldn't they all be an extension of Hinduism? Using the logic and reasoning you guys are, anyways.
Brahma is not the Semitic God present in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Neither is Brahman (You mixed them up, FYI.)
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How is Islam an 'extention' of Christianity?
Muslims do not believe in Christ, they believe in Allah.. Christianity (all forms of it, Catholisism, LDS, Christian, etc...) followers worship Jesus Christ... So how is Islam an 'extention' when they only pray/worship Allah, which is their word for 'God'?
Muslims do believe in Christ. He's a prophet in the Koran, though he's called Isa there. The difference is that Muslims don't believe worship should be extended to anyone aside from God, whether it be Jesus, Moses, saints, etc. The Islamic belief is that Jesus was a holy prophet..but not that he was God's "son." Anyways it could be considered an extension because it's the youngest religion of the three, which are all linked by belief in the same God, albeit with different names.
Hinduism believes in the same god as Christianity does, they just give him more forms.
Brahma. Everything. Nothing. "God". Has always 'been there'.
Brahma has three forms:
Brahman the Creator.
Vishnu the Protector.
Shiva the Destroyer.
Just like the Triad in Christianity in a sense.
So then wouldn't they all be an extension of Hinduism? Using the logic and reasoning you guys are, anyways.
Brahma is not the Semitic God present in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Neither is Brahman (You mixed them up, FYI.)
Yeah, that's my bad.
And honestly, who says God has to be Semitic to be 'god'? Why do we have to personify 'God' and make god have certain traits?
That's why I don't believe in Religion because its too freaking ridiculous: "BELIEVE IN MY GOD OR YOU'RE DAMNED TO HELL!"
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How is Islam an 'extention' of Christianity?
Muslims do not believe in Christ, they believe in Allah.. Christianity (all forms of it, Catholisism, LDS, Christian, etc...) followers worship Jesus Christ... So how is Islam an 'extention' when they only pray/worship Allah, which is their word for 'God'?
Muslims do believe in Christ. He's a prophet in the Koran, though he's called Isa there. The difference is that Muslims don't believe worship should be extended to anyone aside from God, whether it be Jesus, Moses, saints, etc. The Islamic belief is that Jesus was a holy prophet..but not that he was God's "son." Anyways it could be considered an extension because it's the youngest religion of the three, which are all linked by belief in the same God, albeit with different names.
Hinduism believes in the same god as Christianity does, they just give him more forms.
Brahma. Everything. Nothing. "God". Has always 'been there'.
Brahma has three forms:
Brahman the Creator.
Vishnu the Protector.
Shiva the Destroyer.
Just like the Triad in Christianity in a sense.
So then wouldn't they all be an extension of Hinduism? Using the logic and reasoning you guys are, anyways.
Brahma is not the Semitic God present in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Neither is Brahman (You mixed them up, FYI.)
Yeah, that's my bad.
And honestly, who says God has to be Semitic to be 'god'? Why do we have to personify 'God' and make god have certain traits?
That's why I don't believe in Religion because its too freaking ridiculous: "BELIEVE IN MY GOD OR YOU'RE DAMNED TO HELL!"
No one. We're just saying those religions are fundamentally extensions of each other because they have the same God, and I'm saying that Hinduism isn't because it doesn't.
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How is Islam an 'extention' of Christianity?
Muslims do not believe in Christ, they believe in Allah.. Christianity (all forms of it, Catholisism, LDS, Christian, etc...) followers worship Jesus Christ... So how is Islam an 'extention' when they only pray/worship Allah, which is their word for 'God'?
Muslims do believe in Christ. He's a prophet in the Koran, though he's called Isa there. The difference is that Muslims don't believe worship should be extended to anyone aside from God, whether it be Jesus, Moses, saints, etc. The Islamic belief is that Jesus was a holy prophet..but not that he was God's "son." Anyways it could be considered an extension because it's the youngest religion of the three, which are all linked by belief in the same God, albeit with different names.
Hinduism believes in the same god as Christianity does, they just give him more forms.
Brahma. Everything. Nothing. "God". Has always 'been there'.
Brahma has three forms:
Brahman the Creator.
Vishnu the Protector.
Shiva the Destroyer.
Just like the Triad in Christianity in a sense.
So then wouldn't they all be an extension of Hinduism? Using the logic and reasoning you guys are, anyways.
Brahma is not the Semitic God present in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Neither is Brahman (You mixed them up, FYI.)
Yeah, that's my bad.
And honestly, who says God has to be Semitic to be 'god'? Why do we have to personify 'God' and make god have certain traits?
That's why I don't believe in Religion because its too freaking ridiculous: "BELIEVE IN MY GOD OR YOU'RE DAMNED TO HELL!"
No one. We're just saying those religions are fundamentally extensions of each other because they have the same God, and I'm saying that Hinduism isn't because it doesn't.
Okay, and why? Why don't they have the 'same god'? Because they're not personified the same way?
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How is Islam an 'extention' of Christianity?
Muslims do not believe in Christ, they believe in Allah.. Christianity (all forms of it, Catholisism, LDS, Christian, etc...) followers worship Jesus Christ... So how is Islam an 'extention' when they only pray/worship Allah, which is their word for 'God'?
Muslims do believe in Christ. He's a prophet in the Koran, though he's called Isa there. The difference is that Muslims don't believe worship should be extended to anyone aside from God, whether it be Jesus, Moses, saints, etc. The Islamic belief is that Jesus was a holy prophet..but not that he was God's "son." Anyways it could be considered an extension because it's the youngest religion of the three, which are all linked by belief in the same God, albeit with different names.
Hinduism believes in the same god as Christianity does, they just give him more forms.
Brahma. Everything. Nothing. "God". Has always 'been there'.
Brahma has three forms:
Brahman the Creator.
Vishnu the Protector.
Shiva the Destroyer.
Just like the Triad in Christianity in a sense.
So then wouldn't they all be an extension of Hinduism? Using the logic and reasoning you guys are, anyways.
Brahma is not the Semitic God present in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Neither is Brahman (You mixed them up, FYI.)
Yeah, that's my bad.
And honestly, who says God has to be Semitic to be 'god'? Why do we have to personify 'God' and make god have certain traits?
That's why I don't believe in Religion because its too freaking ridiculous: "BELIEVE IN MY GOD OR YOU'RE DAMNED TO HELL!"
No one. We're just saying those religions are fundamentally extensions of each other because they have the same God, and I'm saying that Hinduism isn't because it doesn't.
Okay, and why? Why don't they have the 'same god'? Because they're not personified the same way?
No... Hinduism has many gods, not just one. But all the gods hail from one higher body, which I guess you'd need to be a hindew to fully understand... They don't consider the higher body God like catholics or cristians do.All religions have the same belief: That God is The Universe/Of the Universe.
Just because there are forms of Hinduism that are polytheistic, does not change the fact that all religions teach the same basic principle:
That we are created from God, who is the Universe/Of the Universe, and we are all a part of God.
To imply what Syphon has, is rather ludicrous. It doesn't matter where the religion comes from, they all teach basically the same principle.
Latter Day Saints were created here in the United States, and they have the same core beliefs as other Christian derivatives and even Islam and Judaism.
So why must one personify god as "Semitic" or "Hinduistic"? They worship the same God, just in different ways.
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Some people want to see God the way they want to. They don't want to be told how to see God or how to worship God. They just want the satisfaction that there is life after death. Which ofcourse there is no way of telling if that is true or not.
So then wouldn't you agree with me that Religion essentially is ludicrous and hypocritical in its teachings??
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Some people want to see God the way they want to. They don't want to be told how to see God or how to worship God. They just want the satisfaction that there is life after death. Which ofcourse there is no way of telling if that is true or not.
So then wouldn't you agree with me that Religion essentially is ludicrous and hypocritical in its teachings??
I do not particularly believe in organized religion, nor do I care about it. I agree that people who go to church every saturday or some other religious gathering and they're apart of an organized religion are stealing themselves of their personal beliefs. They are letting themselves be told what to believe, and I am 100% against that.Alright, sweetness. Someone whose on the same page.
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If you mean I have my own belief and views on religion and God and the problems of the world, then yes, I guess I am
But people need to consider their own thoughts. Thats one of the big problems with religion. People aren't thinking. They're guinne pigs to the pope. Or the President (LDS
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But yes, talking about the ability to think with your own mind, not the Church's mind they want you to think is correct.
Why must we follow religion's teachings in order to go to 'heaven'? Why must I believe in a 'Semitic God' in order to have salvation in the 'after-life'?
I just find it absolutely hilarious and hypocritical to follow religion.
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That's why I don't believe in Religion because its too freaking ridiculous: "BELIEVE IN MY GOD OR YOU'RE DAMNED TO HELL!"
They don't all believe that.
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