Except... you don't know what it's like to be us. It's easy to get discouraged by mixing responsibility with something that should be a fun hobby. We want to code and build a web site and do new and exciting things to make SC mapping better... put good maps on all your harddrives... have fun...
And yet, we get stuck babysitting people while doing this all. Wasting our time making posts such the ones in this topic.
Like now... I'm extremely frustrated that we don't have the dldb up yet, even though I got pretty stable .chk method. I've been sick the last few days and just have no motivation to do anything. I spent yesterday laying on the couch watching south park. Alone. When just a week earlier, my gf was complaining that I was on the computer TOO MUCH. Fuck, I even took my computer to my gf's house so I could work on the dldb while she was visiting with her brothers. Imagine that. I packed up my *desktop* computer to work on SEN in my gf's parent's basement.
So now I'm getting frustrated due to my lack of productivity... due to this topic and the esp sucks topic... the whole moose thing which still isn't fixed, even though I did a query that was supposedly supposed to reset the auto increment value...
And before, with the v4 hacking, all the noobishness, the flaming, the drama...
Don't you think that our fun hobby turns into horrible WORK sometimes?
I'm not saying Yoshi made no mistakes. I'm not saying I made no mistakes. I let SEN down as well... how long was it down for? 2-3 months? I can't even give a valid excuse for it other then I just didn't feel like "SEN".
AND THEN... all of a sudden, you get this new breath and you are like FUCK YEAH, let's do some coding again. It snowballs into sexy scripts and new site sections... new perspectives on how to do things... and it's fun again.
And then the cycle repeats itself because of general idiots who just take everything that goes into a site for granted. Who want to bicker about every god damn thing. Who think they can do no wrong. That their opinions are hard truth.
Yoshi said why he made this topic. He even ASKED ME about making this topic. We need a solid stance on what we are doing with protection/unprotection because we need some type of guideline. Otherwise, one mod will be deleting osmap posts while another will be letting it slide. And then we have inconsistancy. And that is horrible for a moderating team. It creates confusion, anger, frustration. And guess what? We are ASKING THE COMMUNITY for such a stance. Not just what we think is right or wrong. And like he said, some people's opinions have changed. Just like his opinion on protection/unprotection changed a bit.
Why is he back here? Like he said, he wants to be a part of a map making community... but can not afford all the time maplantis was requiring from him while trying to do another seriously big project. So I get what I want: someone who I can generally rely on, who wants the same things for SEN as I want: to make it great... with great maps... and a great dldb... and a great tutorial section... And he gets what he wants: to be apart in crafting it to be so.
Erm... hm. Now can we mature the fuck up and talk about the issue on hand... MATURELY.
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