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Jul 6 2010, 6:10 pm Sand Wraith Post #1761

she/her

Quote from Demented Shaman
Post haste would probably be good for IP, because he never carries a fucking tp around with him.

You (IP) never ever carry a TP ever.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 6 2010, 7:56 pm by Sand Wraith.




Jul 6 2010, 6:22 pm Demented Shaman Post #1762



Quote from Sand Wraith
Quote from Demented Shaman
Post haste would probably be good for IP, because he never carries a fucking tp around with him.

You never ever carry a TP ever.
I always carry a tp. stfu.



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Jul 6 2010, 7:58 pm Sand Wraith Post #1763

she/her

Quote from Demented Shaman
Quote from Sand Wraith
Quote from Demented Shaman
Post haste would probably be good for IP, because he never carries a fucking tp around with him.

You never ever carry a TP ever.
I always carry a tp. stfu.

Oops, sorry. That was directed to IP.

IP solo pushes way too much + never has a TP = IP or 4 die(s).
He either gets ganked (rare) or our team gets raped in a 4v5 situation (frequent).

EDIT:

Feast your eyes on absolute bullshit: 6613699.

Wanna know why we lost? 'Cause I couldn't click on burning Wildsoul in teamfights. Thus: I die 4 or so times to him.
His fucking Bearducocksuck is a burning clickwall of fur and shit. I want to punch whoever modelled the bear.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 7 2010, 3:43 am by Sand Wraith.




Jul 7 2010, 9:38 am Demented Shaman Post #1764



I love stomping noobs. I go like double digit kills and assists every game with like 0 deaths or 1 death.



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Jul 7 2010, 9:49 am Neki Post #1765



And then you concede to tank your PSR, amirite?



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Jul 7 2010, 10:12 am Demented Shaman Post #1766



Nah, that doesn't work in pubs. I tank my PSR in 1v1.



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Jul 8 2010, 2:37 am Sand Wraith Post #1767

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Got my good computer in working order.

EDIT:
http://hon.esportmedia.com/video/2010/07/06/esl-june-tournament-kde-vs-empr
RAMPAGE!?!?!?!?!?!?


spoiler thoughts etc.


Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 8 2010, 2:17 pm by Sand Wraith.




Jul 9 2010, 9:55 am Demented Shaman Post #1768



Pollywog vs Kongor. LOL
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=146313
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVE60zwXx1k



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Jul 12 2010, 9:56 am Demented Shaman Post #1769



For IP
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showpost.php?p=1960819&postcount=5

Also, cute has created clan BADS.



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Jul 14 2010, 7:29 am Sand Wraith Post #1770

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I have a mod which fixes that.




Jul 14 2010, 11:09 pm poison_us Post #1771

Back* from the grave

:wut:




Jul 16 2010, 1:36 am Demented Shaman Post #1772



http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=148479



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Jul 16 2010, 1:58 am ShredderIV Post #1773



I see a new forum meme coming up, right behind "I'll stay near the tower and hook them fukers."

30 DAYS!!!



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Jul 16 2010, 7:43 am Demented Shaman Post #1774



Wow, hydro is such garbage. His PSR is almost 1700, yet his TSR is 4.75 where 5 is an average player.

FaZ, you're pretty bad too. 1650 PSR yet slightly below 5 TSR.



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Jul 16 2010, 11:58 am Decency Post #1775



Yep, and how many of my top 5 heroes are carries?

I'm "bad" according to whatever formula that uses. Find some top players who play support a lot and it will probably tell you they're bad too.


I don't doubt TSR can be helpful, spotting people who've been completely carried, are new, EM'ers, etc. But I'd value PSR far more.



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Jul 16 2010, 4:56 pm ShredderIV Post #1776



It actually uses support stats as well, but there are still factors that it doesnt count in. It also doesnt exactly weigh everything very evenly IMO.



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Jul 17 2010, 7:31 am Sand Wraith Post #1777

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Quote from Demented Shaman
Wow, hydro is such garbage. His PSR is almost 1700, yet his TSR is 4.75 where 5 is an average player.

FaZ, you're pretty bad too. 1650 PSR yet slightly below 5 TSR.

lul u mad u got beat?

umad

FaZ include "stompers" in your list. :):):):)
A combination of both PSR and TSR helps to determine actual skill level.

Probable approximations:
High PSR, low TSR: lucky baddie, or gets carried by friends.
High PSR, med. TSR: at least knows how to play, possiby heavy support.
High PSR, high TSR: good.
Med. PSR, low TSR: baddie, or sub-par.
Med. PSR, med. TSR: average.
Med. PSR, high TSR: probably good.
Low PSR, low TSR: baddie.
Low PSR, med. TSR: probably baddie.
Low PSR, high TSR: stomper, probably someone who tanked their own PSR or reset stat. Might be skilled, but probably doesn't have much teamwork either.

BTW, TSR is biased towards carries (and killstealers/stompers). I think both PSR and TSR combined provides the best approximation for a player's skill level. PSR helps with win ratio and long-term performance, while TSR helps more with in-game abilities. Looking at the top 5 Heroes and creep scores help too.
Ultimately, the closer you look at a player (from PSR, to TSR, to all stats, to actual in-game) and the more data you acquire (games played, games played with the player personally), the better one can determine the player's skill. It's all relative, though. To me, people with upwards of 5 and 6 are usually hard to deal with if I'm not playing with someone like IP or Crazed or anyone else I player frequently with (IP and Crazed are pretty much it; maybe throw in Tatts, even ducky), 'cause I won't be able to mesh with others' playstyles as well.

WHEN THE HELL IS TMM COMING?

--

Any Heroes you guys want to see ported? I want Terrorblade and Nerubian Weaver. I never did well with Terrorblade but he was fun as Hell to play, and I was doing really well with Nerubian Weaver while I still played DotA. NW was the best glass cannon. Oh, Bone Fletcher too.

so many cool Heroes they could port like Jakiro
or not Tinker 'cause he's gay and I hated playing with, as, and against him
but yes Techies because four hundred stacked mines wins games and the stun trap is op

EDIT:
Here's the link to the TSR mod: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=126454

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 17 2010, 12:24 pm by Sand Wraith.




Jul 17 2010, 2:23 pm ShredderIV Post #1778



Strom spirit is kind of unique IMO, and I've always wanted to see him ported. Apparently they already have it planned under the name "doctor repulsor" which doesnt really float my boat.

Also, invoker.



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Jul 17 2010, 3:28 pm Sand Wraith Post #1779

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they shoulda named him magneto and he shoots magnetic waves of death and destruction

also, is devilesk hookin them fukers in?




Jul 17 2010, 5:10 pm Decency Post #1780



TSR is just a stupid concept because it rewards you equally for going 15-3 against 1300's as it does for going 15-3 against fnatic.MSI. I play games at and above my skill level, not against bad players, and my K:D suffers because of it. That doesn't make me a worse player, I'd argue it makes me a better one. If I wanted my TSR to skyrocket I'd go play Arachna or Wretched Hag against terrible players and learn nothing.

I want to see Dark Seer, Furion, and Keeper of the Light.



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