This is where we will discuss what's going on in Mafia 8 while the main topic is locked during the night, because in times like these when there's mafia roaming the streets townies don't go to sleep. We have work to do and mafia to find out.

I wasn't able to get in any posts and respond since last night before the day ended, but I'd like to respond to this post from Greo.

Let's ignore the fact that Kevin turned out to be a townie, which makes Greo's post garbage anyway.
If DTBK and I were mafia why would we be the ones that started the bandwagon on Kevin in the first place and be one of the people who wanted to lynch him the most?
Now taking into account the fact that Kevin was in fact a townie, why would we want to suddenly switch the bandwagon at the last minute if we were mafia?
We wouldn't. DTBK and I clearly aren't mafia.

Now what I think we should definitely do is lynch Nerdy. I know Nerdy has been responding to me talking about how I'm mad at him and stuff thinking my reason for lynching him is personal. It's not. The only reason I want to lynch Nerdy is because of the conversation I had with Corbo.
The full convo is in this post http://www.staredit.net/91557/
Also note that I didn't even start the conversation and that Corbo approached me first. I hope based on reading it you can see my initial confusion and reluctance.
Another reason why I wanted to immediately switch the bandwagon was because in the conversation I had with Corbo he said that Nerdy placed a hit on me tonight. That's why I wanted him dead as soon as possible. Since he's still alive I can only assume that if he's mafia then I'm going to be hit tonight. So doctors I must rely on you tonight to protect me, please.

DTBK also brings up a good point I would like to reiterate and elaborate upon.
I think we can definitely afford the chance to lynch Nerdy and hold off on our other suspects for now. We have just seen how even our strongest interpretations was an utter failure. It's highly likely that at this point in the game with so little clues out there and so many people that they can point to that we'll end up lynching another townie, based on our current interpretations. Instead, we should lynch Nerdy tonight to test what Corbo said.

I also question Dan's reluctance on this issue.
Why not vote Nerdy if Corbo is mafia and what he says is true? If he's ruining the game then it's his fault.

Personally, I still have doubt as to whether or not Dan is really a townie. I'm just stating my doubt right now. He has contributed a lot and presented many strong interpretations. However, they haven't shown to be right yet. What makes me still doubt his role is because I know he has the intelligence and ability to pretend to be a very convincing townie. For all we know it could be a very well thought out act. It's not beyond the realm of possibility, and I think Dan is very capable of it. In one of our convos Dan said how hard it was for mafia to make up fake clue interpretations, but with Dan I think he can do it convincingly. Of course, what we must do for now is offer our own interpretations and maybe try out his to see if they are correct.

I will also state that I am personally 100% sure in DTBK's status as a townie. He will not be suspected by me at all, and I suggest other townies to not bother trying to link clues to him. I may reveal the reason for this depending on whether or not it would hurt the town in also letting the mafia know.

I also want to say that I do not want to get in a "personal" conflict with Nerdy. My desire to lynch him is not due to personal bias. It's simply because of the evidence I have previously cited. If you disagree with me then please argue against that and not personally against me.
This is the kind of thing I don't want.

I also will not ignore the point Nerdy brings up about Corbo's conversation. It may very well be a perfectly valid defense because in some ways it doesn't make sense at all for Corbo to be mafia and for him to reveal himself to us. I tried to question him on that in our conversation as well. And admittedly the whole story that Corbo is trying to pass off and his reason for wanting to lynch Nerdy is a little preposterous and doesn't seem to justify giving himself away. However, this could be an elaborate plan where he is anticipating this whole thought process, knowing that we would think it's ridiculous and then dismiss it, resulting in Nerdy and Corbo being kept alive with both of them mafia.

If Corbo is lying then we must shift our attention from Nerdy to Corbo. Why would a townie intentionally try to get another townie lynched? It only hurts the town and we cannot tolerate that. If Corbo is lying then we must deal with him and possibly with a lynch.

But lynchings at this point may not be things we can just go around wasting. Perhaps the best thing we can do is to just keep these interactions in mind such as the interaction between Corbo and Nerdy. We may keep them alive, but we cannot forget and let them (if they are mafia) live too long and get too far into the game. The act of just remembering and keeping it in mind protects us from the possibility that Nerdy and Corbo are mafia and this whole thing was set up for their benefit and that they are hoping we dismiss this event as ridiculous and regard both of them as townies when they may not be.



So I guess what we do now is just go back over our interpretations, try to find more, and pick the best suspect we have so far.

What about our boondocks? Should we be encouraging them to hit nerdy?

Hmm, true. With two boondocks at our disposal it might be in our best interest to have one of them hit Nerdy and be rid of the question once and for all. We can encourage them, but it is up to them to decide if they want to take the matter into their own hands and settle whether Corbo is lying or telling the truth once and for all. The town, however, must focus on who to lynch based on good clue interpretation.

That reminds me, I spoke of my strong knowledge that DTBK is not mafia, and so I strongly urge the boondocks not to do anything too foolish such as to hit DTBK. I'm not saying he's off limits forever, because if clues point to him then clues point to him, there's nothing I can do about that. But, right now I'm telling you he's not mafia and there isn't anything contrary to that to support it. It is better if the boondocks focus their hits on lesser townie suspects that are not as useful to the town who we have linked potential clue interpretations to.

They only have 1 hit together (the way you said that seemed to imply that you think they have two, correct me if I'm wrong).

Oh, my mistake. I was not aware that they only had one hit. It's a good thing they know each other though. I really hope they are aware of what's going on and are thoughtfully discussing it.

Avenge me, Devilesk!

BTW, if you pull all nighters, you will eventually die from lack of sleep and exhaustion.

No, the time between each of my posts is when I sleep.