Ninja vs Pirate!
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On Spike TV, there was a certain show called "The deadliest Warrior", if you watched it, you'll know wut im gonna say.
its a show that competes 2 warriors that never would have met, such as Viking vs. Samurai. Now, Ninja and pirate were never pitted against each other but still they went against other interesting warriors. Info of the match is based upon the weapons both warriors had, and how they can use it. Now, the ninja was up against the spartan, obviously spartan won because of his shield, armor, and spears. Ninja had only his shuriken, sickle and chain ( w/e it was) and his "egg bombs" contains material able to temporary blind the opponent. Pirate went against the knight, which to a surprise, the pirate won, because he was more technologically advance with his blunderbuss and other guns.
From a technological standpoint,fighting 1v1 pirate would win. Stealth wise, ninja would win, because they assassinate, rather than go head on. The battle is situational though, really.
its a show that competes 2 warriors that never would have met, such as Viking vs. Samurai. Now, Ninja and pirate were never pitted against each other but still they went against other interesting warriors. Info of the match is based upon the weapons both warriors had, and how they can use it. Now, the ninja was up against the spartan, obviously spartan won because of his shield, armor, and spears. Ninja had only his shuriken, sickle and chain ( w/e it was) and his "egg bombs" contains material able to temporary blind the opponent. Pirate went against the knight, which to a surprise, the pirate won, because he was more technologically advance with his blunderbuss and other guns.
From a technological standpoint,fighting 1v1 pirate would win. Stealth wise, ninja would win, because they assassinate, rather than go head on. The battle is situational though, really.
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Ninjas learned their skills from Chinese pirates raiding on the Japanese coast. Thus pirates were the forerunners of ninjas, and obviously their masters.
Win by luck, lose by skill.
I'm disappointed through the ignorance (I'm not making it as an insult, but people are totally uninformed) of people when they don't understand Ninjas, especially ones like Ryu Hayabusa.
Ryu Hayabusa can take on a pirate with just a dash attack (Or "Flying Swallows") and it's over before it even started.
Ryu Hayabusa can kill technologically advanced soldiers that have way tougher armor than the modern military. Which by the way, is far more technologically advanced than a stupid blunderbuss or guns that use gunpowder. He can take on guys with rocket launchers which is far more devastating than a 19th Century cannon. He can take on several horsemen on the second level of Ninja Gaiden 1/Black, which are more than capable of being knights. Hell, trying to survive mission modes is not only hard, but also shows how a solo ninja called Ryu Hayabusa can take on so many tough enemies at once if played well. He can also run and fight on water at the same time.
http://ninjagaiden.wikia.com/wiki/Ninja_Gaiden_II_Weapons
Intro of Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODBtxChHb-c
Video from Ninja Gaiden II Sigma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZWpCSwR4ec
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LoTu)SNinja and pirate were never pitted against each other but still they went against other interesting warriors. Info of the match is based upon the weapons both warriors had, and how they can use it. Now, the ninja was up against the spartan, obviously spartan won because of his shield, armor, and spears. Ninja had only his shuriken, sickle and chain ( w/e it was) and his "egg bombs" contains material able to temporary blind the opponent. Pirate went against the knight, which to a surprise, the pirate won, because he was more technologically advance with his blunderbuss and other guns.
From a technological standpoint,fighting 1v1 pirate would win. Stealth wise, ninja would win, because they assassinate, rather than go head on. The battle is situational though, really.
From a technological standpoint,fighting 1v1 pirate would win. Stealth wise, ninja would win, because they assassinate, rather than go head on. The battle is situational though, really.
Ryu Hayabusa can kill technologically advanced soldiers that have way tougher armor than the modern military. Which by the way, is far more technologically advanced than a stupid blunderbuss or guns that use gunpowder. He can take on guys with rocket launchers which is far more devastating than a 19th Century cannon. He can take on several horsemen on the second level of Ninja Gaiden 1/Black, which are more than capable of being knights. Hell, trying to survive mission modes is not only hard, but also shows how a solo ninja called Ryu Hayabusa can take on so many tough enemies at once if played well. He can also run and fight on water at the same time.
http://ninjagaiden.wikia.com/wiki/Ninja_Gaiden_II_Weapons
Intro of Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODBtxChHb-c
Video from Ninja Gaiden II Sigma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZWpCSwR4ec
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Sorry, i was assuming that the warriors we're talking about are straight from their time. Otherwise...(yes i played Ninja Gaiden, i beat Master Ninja mode), from a more modern view, ninjas would win.
Also wouldnt such games imply that ninjas can be adaptive to the changes around them? Obviously i dont see a pirate game that doesnt take place beyond the era of wooden ships?
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Mar 18 2010, 6:16 am by LoTu)S.
Also wouldnt such games imply that ninjas can be adaptive to the changes around them? Obviously i dont see a pirate game that doesnt take place beyond the era of wooden ships?
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Mar 18 2010, 6:16 am by LoTu)S.
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Harlock destroys the entire Mazone fleet with guns from his ship, the arcadia, as well as his laser pistol. Harlock's reflexes are at least equal to that of a ninja's.
Fighting an entire species of female-looking aliens is tough, due to their looks. The mazone are actually asexual, and thus a female body suits them more for taking over the world. It's easy to fight monsters and men, but much harder to fight someone you are attracted to. Why else are the best villains women?
All heroes save the world in some way. Ryu simply saved it from a war which would cause massive destruction across the planet. Earth would survive pretty well. That leaves saving the world from mythical creatures. How many did he face? Surely not as many Mazone as Harlock. There was no chance for Earth to survive had Harlock not saved them (politicians would rather play golf than defend the Earth. It's a lot like futurama and zap brannigan).
On top of that, Harlock does all this without any supernatural powers, unlike Ryu, who has to rely on being half dragon, or something like that.
The only thing I could see which could rival space pirates would be space ninjas, but even then, most of their "ninjability" is lost in space, isn't it? However, introducing "space" is cheap and shouldn't be used in the classic debate.
Including soldiers in the ninja category is ridiculous, not to mention unfair to the debate. Jack Bauer can't die, for one, Chuck Norris is Chuck Norris, and Jason Bourne is a $30 million psychopathic killer. An assassin isn't necessarily a ninja. A ninja is an assassin. There is a distinct difference in being a soldier and a mercenary. Ninjas are mercenaries, not soldiers.
Also, kung fu panda is a samurai, not a ninja. However, Fatalexception's ninja does hold a special place in my heart.
Fighting an entire species of female-looking aliens is tough, due to their looks. The mazone are actually asexual, and thus a female body suits them more for taking over the world. It's easy to fight monsters and men, but much harder to fight someone you are attracted to. Why else are the best villains women?
All heroes save the world in some way. Ryu simply saved it from a war which would cause massive destruction across the planet. Earth would survive pretty well. That leaves saving the world from mythical creatures. How many did he face? Surely not as many Mazone as Harlock. There was no chance for Earth to survive had Harlock not saved them (politicians would rather play golf than defend the Earth. It's a lot like futurama and zap brannigan).
On top of that, Harlock does all this without any supernatural powers, unlike Ryu, who has to rely on being half dragon, or something like that.
The only thing I could see which could rival space pirates would be space ninjas, but even then, most of their "ninjability" is lost in space, isn't it? However, introducing "space" is cheap and shouldn't be used in the classic debate.
Including soldiers in the ninja category is ridiculous, not to mention unfair to the debate. Jack Bauer can't die, for one, Chuck Norris is Chuck Norris, and Jason Bourne is a $30 million psychopathic killer. An assassin isn't necessarily a ninja. A ninja is an assassin. There is a distinct difference in being a soldier and a mercenary. Ninjas are mercenaries, not soldiers.
Also, kung fu panda is a samurai, not a ninja. However, Fatalexception's ninja does hold a special place in my heart.
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Does Rurouni Kenshin count as a ninja?
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obviously not--he is a ronin, and often described as samurai-x.
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And how do pirates dress up this easily?
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rockzOn top of that, Harlock does all this without any supernatural powers, unlike Ryu, who has to rely on being half dragon, or something like that..
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As a ninja Ryu is in perfect physical condition though he has quite a muscular built, this does not render his outstanding speed and agility which allows him to perform the most complex of aerial acrobatics and while being in such built he is so strong that he is capable of wielding the most enormous of weapons and still being able to perform amazingly fast swings.
It could be considered that he's is able to maneuver in such a manner for the fact that he is a descendant of the Dragon Warriors, however Ryu doesn't appear to care much about his inherited super strength and only considers that he is strong for his training, as he explained to Rachel.
It could be considered that he's is able to maneuver in such a manner for the fact that he is a descendant of the Dragon Warriors, however Ryu doesn't appear to care much about his inherited super strength and only considers that he is strong for his training, as he explained to Rachel.
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rockzHarlock destroys the entire Mazone fleet with guns from his ship, the arcadia, as well as his laser pistol. Harlock's reflexes are at least equal to that of a ninja's.
Fighting an entire species of female-looking aliens is tough, due to their looks. The mazone are actually asexual, and thus a female body suits them more for taking over the world. It's easy to fight monsters and men, but much harder to fight someone you are attracted to. Why else are the best villains women?
All heroes save the world in some way. Ryu simply saved it from a war which would cause massive destruction across the planet. Earth would survive pretty well. That leaves saving the world from mythical creatures. How many did he face? Surely not as many Mazone as Harlock. There was no chance for Earth to survive had Harlock not saved them (politicians would rather play golf than defend the Earth. It's a lot like futurama and zap brannigan).
The only thing I could see which could rival space pirates would be space ninjas, but even then, most of their "ninjability" is lost in space, isn't it? However, introducing "space" is cheap and shouldn't be used in the classic debate.
Including soldiers in the ninja category is ridiculous, not to mention unfair to the debate. Jack Bauer can't die, for one, Chuck Norris is Chuck Norris, and Jason Bourne is a $30 million psychopathic killer. An assassin isn't necessarily a ninja. A ninja is an assassin. There is a distinct difference in being a soldier and a mercenary. Ninjas are mercenaries, not soldiers.
Fighting an entire species of female-looking aliens is tough, due to their looks. The mazone are actually asexual, and thus a female body suits them more for taking over the world. It's easy to fight monsters and men, but much harder to fight someone you are attracted to. Why else are the best villains women?
All heroes save the world in some way. Ryu simply saved it from a war which would cause massive destruction across the planet. Earth would survive pretty well. That leaves saving the world from mythical creatures. How many did he face? Surely not as many Mazone as Harlock. There was no chance for Earth to survive had Harlock not saved them (politicians would rather play golf than defend the Earth. It's a lot like futurama and zap brannigan).
The only thing I could see which could rival space pirates would be space ninjas, but even then, most of their "ninjability" is lost in space, isn't it? However, introducing "space" is cheap and shouldn't be used in the classic debate.
Including soldiers in the ninja category is ridiculous, not to mention unfair to the debate. Jack Bauer can't die, for one, Chuck Norris is Chuck Norris, and Jason Bourne is a $30 million psychopathic killer. An assassin isn't necessarily a ninja. A ninja is an assassin. There is a distinct difference in being a soldier and a mercenary. Ninjas are mercenaries, not soldiers.
You're saying "Space", right? In reality, one tiny scrap metal can demolish a space ship (Ever recall the close call International Space Station incident?) if you're considering "ninjability" is lost in space. In words, ninjas can adapt the harshest existence in reality and fiction, and they too can adapt outer space.
So you're saying Ninjas are not soldiers? Sam Fisher is a soldier and through dialogue, non-playable characters had considered him as a ninja. If the latest Splinter Cell game had connected his fighting style, and other Splinter Cells, to Jack Bauer, Jason Bourne, James Bond, and Chuck Norris, then they are ninjas too. A ninja like Sam Fisher can bypass guards like a ghost, doesn't have to kill or knock them out, and therefore can complete his missions to prevent enormous catastrophes without getting detected.
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Sure. Paris Hilton is rich because of her extensive acting career, not because of her parent's money.
How can a ninja adapt in space? Battles take place in vehicles, where physical strength, stealth, and agility is all trumped by technology. They would no longer be ninjas. They would more likely become pirates.
Ninjas are mercenaries, not soldiers. They are hired to kill someone/perform some specific task, then released of their duty. Soldiers are employees of a larger army, and generally compensated in some way for their services. Sam Fisher may be like a ninja, but he is not a ninja. If you start expanding that, then I'll have to expand the pirate definition to include Angela Lansbury.
I would presume that for space travel to work well enough for space pirates to exist, there would be a solution to the space junk problem.
How can a ninja adapt in space? Battles take place in vehicles, where physical strength, stealth, and agility is all trumped by technology. They would no longer be ninjas. They would more likely become pirates.
Ninjas are mercenaries, not soldiers. They are hired to kill someone/perform some specific task, then released of their duty. Soldiers are employees of a larger army, and generally compensated in some way for their services. Sam Fisher may be like a ninja, but he is not a ninja. If you start expanding that, then I'll have to expand the pirate definition to include Angela Lansbury.
I would presume that for space travel to work well enough for space pirates to exist, there would be a solution to the space junk problem.
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rockzHow can a ninja adapt in space? Battles take place in vehicles, where physical strength, stealth, and agility is all trumped by technology. They would no longer be ninjas. They would more likely become pirates.
Ninjas are mercenaries, not soldiers. They are hired to kill someone/perform some specific task, then released of their duty. Soldiers are employees of a larger army, and generally compensated in some way for their services. Sam Fisher may be like a ninja, but he is not a ninja. If you start expanding that, then I'll have to expand the pirate definition to include Angela Lansbury.
I would presume that for space travel to work well enough for space pirates to exist, there would be a solution to the space junk problem.
Ninjas are mercenaries, not soldiers. They are hired to kill someone/perform some specific task, then released of their duty. Soldiers are employees of a larger army, and generally compensated in some way for their services. Sam Fisher may be like a ninja, but he is not a ninja. If you start expanding that, then I'll have to expand the pirate definition to include Angela Lansbury.
I would presume that for space travel to work well enough for space pirates to exist, there would be a solution to the space junk problem.
There are ninjas: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ninja
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja it refers ninjas as "covert ops" (It also said "Or" if you're going to refer mercenary, they don't have to be mercenaries) meaning Splinter Cells are ninjas (In fact, Splinter Cells are notably known as spies), as well as Terran Ghosts. Splinter Cells generally wear camouflage outfits or black wetsuits and wear balaclavas to even appear as ninjas. In Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, on versus mode, the spies can turn invisible. Terran Ghosts can already turn invisible.
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but the topic is pirates versus ninjas. I vote ninjas.
but the topic is pirates versus ninjas. I vote ninjas.
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You are smearing the term ninja to apply to anything that uses stealth. We should change it to "criminals on boats vs anything that can sneak around"
I'm suggesting that when fighting in a ship to ship battle, what does it matter who has better skills at catching arrows and dodging bullets? The skill of the pilot is heavily augmented by technology, reducing any advantage the ninja may have to zero.
Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Mar 19 2010, 8:19 am by rockz.
I'm suggesting that when fighting in a ship to ship battle, what does it matter who has better skills at catching arrows and dodging bullets? The skill of the pilot is heavily augmented by technology, reducing any advantage the ninja may have to zero.
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Ninja
Main Entry: nin·ja
Pronunciation: \ˈnin-jə, -(ˌ)jä\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ninja also ninjas
Etymology: Japanese, from nin- persevere, conceal, move stealthily + -ja person
Date: 1964
: a person trained in ancient Japanese martial arts and employed especially for espionage and assassinations
Main Entry: nin·ja
Pronunciation: \ˈnin-jə, -(ˌ)jä\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ninja also ninjas
Etymology: Japanese, from nin- persevere, conceal, move stealthily + -ja person
Date: 1964
: a person trained in ancient Japanese martial arts and employed especially for espionage and assassinations
Quote from name:Free Dictionary
ninja - a member of the ninja who were trained in martial arts and hired for espionage or sabotage or assassinations; a person skilled in Ninjutsu
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I mean it would only be fair to include space pirates if you are going to bring in Ryu Hayabusa (lol FF corrections) who uses enchanted equipment.
No wait it's bee brought up nvm. Let's just remove "Space/alien/lava/cyber/enchanted/loli/chibi/modern/edible/berzerker Pirate-Ninja's out of this. I mean whats the point. It goes: Ninajs vs pirates OMG X wins! But what about modern pirates with theiw new tech omg they win! No but CYBER ninjas from another diemension would have better tech. THEY WIN! NO BUT SPACE ZOMBIE PIRATES ARE IMMORTAL THEY WIN!
Srsly. Let's leave it at skill or categories really.
Ninja can obviously best pirates in some aspects and pirates have their own aspects that overcome the ninja's. Make a list and who ever has the most 'counters' is The ultimate Warrior :3
Why would a pirate need a uniform? They don't need to conceal anything. Pirates wear all that shit in the movies because they put it on once and never take it off. It's like like putting on like 2 t shirts and a blazer on really. Anything else is just to get respect in his or her habitat.
Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Mar 19 2010, 12:36 pm by MadZombie.
No wait it's bee brought up nvm. Let's just remove "Space/alien/lava/cyber/enchanted/loli/chibi/modern/edible/berzerker Pirate-Ninja's out of this. I mean whats the point. It goes: Ninajs vs pirates OMG X wins! But what about modern pirates with theiw new tech omg they win! No but CYBER ninjas from another diemension would have better tech. THEY WIN! NO BUT SPACE ZOMBIE PIRATES ARE IMMORTAL THEY WIN!
Srsly. Let's leave it at skill or categories really.
Ninja can obviously best pirates in some aspects and pirates have their own aspects that overcome the ninja's. Make a list and who ever has the most 'counters' is The ultimate Warrior :3
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And how do pirates dress up this easily?
Why would a pirate need a uniform? They don't need to conceal anything. Pirates wear all that shit in the movies because they put it on once and never take it off. It's like like putting on like 2 t shirts and a blazer on really. Anything else is just to get respect in his or her habitat.
Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Mar 19 2010, 12:36 pm by MadZombie.
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Modern pirates are Somali pirates. Navy SEALs pwn'd them when rescuing a Captain. And Sam Fisher was once a Navy SEAL before becoming a Splinter Cell.
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MadZombieI mean whats the point. It goes: Ninajs vs pirates OMG X wins! But what about modern pirates with theiw new tech omg they win! No but CYBER ninjas from another diemension would have better tech. THEY WIN! NO BUT SPACE ZOMBIE PIRATES ARE IMMORTAL THEY WIN!
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What about....
Ninjapirate vs. Pirateninja?
That is to say, a Ninja who became a pirate, vs a Pirate who became a ninja? Who wins then?
Ninjapirate vs. Pirateninja?
That is to say, a Ninja who became a pirate, vs a Pirate who became a ninja? Who wins then?
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