http://myfreeimplants.com/
I saw this site on the Colbert Report, it helps women get free money for breast implants. Now I know someone who actually wants to go for it.
While on the surface, it does seem almost innocent. However, look at the contest page to see the "best" way to make money for your profile. Not only that, there is the ability to send private photos to benefactors, which can be anything but child porn.
There is also the moral subject of should women really be altering their bodies this way.

So, does this take women down yet another step on the moral ladder? Is society's general morals degenerating at a rapid pace? Is this site basically whoring yourself out for money?
What do you think?

Well I wouldn't say that it's entirely women that are part of this deterioration of morals. Would the size of women's breasts even matter were it not for men? We're enablers.

I disagree, partly. Women tend to care more about other women looking at them than men (and I hope I don't have to specify: not in the sexual way).

True, that may be a valid alternative.

Also, what about the media factor? I'm sure growing up with all these influences has some effect.

I think that unless someone can cite some biological reason for a predisposition of women to focus more over their looks than men then it must be more of an environmental cause. More like the nuture side of the nature vs nuture opposition. I think the different trends in what the ideal body shape "should" be also supports this. I think that what is considered attractive varies with time and the society.

I think having a woman's input would be valuable here.

Breast Implants are tricky business.

I had a breast cancer survivor come in to explain what she went through in my Health class. She told us how right after she had her breasts removed that she went in purchased implants. As her story progressed she said that she had a collapsed lung in a hospital and they had to stick a tube in the side of her to re-inflate it. This punctured her silicon implant which led to more problems including infection.

Yeah they may look nice and you may fit in better, but one should note the outcomes of getting them.

The picture on the front page of the implant website does well at proving this.

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When it comes to breast implants, my friends have differing opinions.

We were all looking up these models via google image and we find this really attractive model. But then one of my friends point out "Dude you guys, she's fake; she's got breast implants and had plastic surgery." And immediately, many of my friends were disgusted and turned off.

Now another group of friends, we happen to just be talking about girls. If you guys didn't know already, I am asian. The friends I was with were white. They were all dogging on me saying "Hey we should get Justin a hot asian girl." But they joked were like "but they are all titless! LOL." Then one of them brings up some hot models who've I came to realize, had breast implants. I told them, "Dude, their breasts aren't real; they're fake." And they simply like, "... so?"

And apparently, alot of women loath other women for whatever reasons. I was a cashier at a grocery store and there was this one magazine of Hilary duff simply wearing a swimsuit. All these highschool girls come through my aisle, see this magazine cover, and were like, "Oh my gawd! That is hilary duff? Bullshit there is no way, that is definately not her body." And went on rambling about how she was a slut or something, I couldn't really hear.

Simply put, ugly people who are not attractive that could be the nicest person and have good morals gets dumped on by a good looking women. No matter what people say, looks do matter. I myself even have to agree with that. I mean, the only people that say "beauty is skin deep" are people that have not the best of looks. I've noticed that a lot of good looking women are really stuck up and think that they are the best and have the "prissy" type of attitude.

All in all, women want to look nice. Having small breasts effect the way someone feels about their self. This is most common in people with low self-esteem.

That website is just making womens morals slide down the hill right into the garbage can. Seriously, why have implants. It makes people around you feel disgusted that you just want attention for no reason.

That couldn't be anymore hypocritical.

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I would caution against speaking in such bold generalizations. Everyone's idea of a good looking person may be different. I'm sure there are people who couldn't care less about looks in a woman. You can never speak for all people.

I had this idea that the moral level of our society was always the same and that now there are just more things that depict it thus making us think that we're degenerating.

I would call it a side-effect of easier lifestyles. In teh olde days, women were more concerned with staying alive then breast implants (which didn't really exist). Nowadays, women want to find a husband or to please their current husband and they can do it, so they get breast implants. I don't agree with it, but it's understandable.

Kinda sick, I don't get it.
It's just further pushing along beauty[?] over personality.

I'd say it's more of an evolution of society.

Control what you do, control how you look, control who you are. Personal freedoms at their best.

Do I get to? D:

Not necesarily. I can quite easily imagine that there are plenty of people who may indeed have a "beautiful" appearance, or atleast believe so, and whom simply take it for granted. They also may not have spent much thought on that belief, or not be very apt at hypothesizing themselves in alien situations. And that there are people whom are simply able to give that phrase with complete honesty is also very possible - you might be careful to assume that not everyone is necessarily like yourself.

freedom to take off clothes and send kinky pictures to other guys in order to gain a dollar here or a few dollars there to reach an eventual goal of 5k+?
I would think by the time they are done with the website, they'd be so desensitized to the idea of taking of their clothes for strangers they'd be comparatively a lot more sluttish and whorish.
Evolution of society?

JaFF is pretty much on point. Human nature really hasn't changed all that much over the course of human history, just the ways in which it can be expressed.

Society will always appear to decline, when the observer is afraid of change.

Not always, sometimes the act of change takes more effort than one can perform, and the fact that society remains the same can seem to degrade it. (Oil industry is still #1, for example.)
Although thats not the case here.

Personally I can't say I'm against this site, as women in the business world are treated very differently than men. A man simply needs to dress in a suit and tie to be considered businesslike, and I've seen many a lazy guy get a high paying job simply based on showing up. Women on the other hand, still have troubles getting the same positions, mainly because men don't trust them. (There are many other reasons, but this one kinda sums it up for me.) There is a stigma around women in the work place, that is easily overcome by increasing her sexual output. One example for this would be my states governor. Sarah Palin, is toted around as "the hottest governor in the country" because she is rather hot for a 40-something. She would certainly not be in her position if she were less appealing physically.

Also, in defense of my stance, I wish to quote Kenny from Southpark, "I like women with big titties! I like women with big titties!"

I say they can do as they please. I prefer natural boobs (even if they're smaller), so I can still have my freedom of choice too.

And as far as society going "downhill", I must point out the fact that society has never been moral. The name of the game is survival. Looking out for number 1. Laws exist so that the people in power can keep the people that slave away underneath them from killing each other. That way, the people in power have their interests preserved, and in some cases, the lower and middle classes can keep theirs preserved too. It has never been good. Just look at colonization, the holocaust, slavery, etc. Somehow the easier access to bigger boobs pales in comparison, methinks. Bigger boobs means men are more likely to choose them. Self-interest.

Nice posts.

But what of the method of obtaining them? The morality questions were more geared to using the website to get implants, not necessarily implants themselves.
;o