[quote=Joshgt2]-Who needs a touch screen? The PSP has a screen that is almost twice the size as the one screen and who wants to be looking at 2 screens rather than playing the game? -Music, Video, Pictures... Simply said? Or must I say about how I can put Transformers onto my PSP and then have the sound track in my music folder and then have my background be Optimus... -Mics? PSPs have them too.. -Wifi is nice and all, but who is able to access not only other games close to the handheld but also the other ones around the world! -Web Browser is always nice -Internet Radio -Operating system for emulators (Yes, this can be done if you know what you're doing). "This means I could play DS games on the PSP!?! No wai!!" -Analog stick and D-pad -Disks, not those stupid game cartridges -More titles, enough said -UMDs designed right for the PSP -PS3 connectivity -Able to connect to your TV and play your PSP on the big screen[/quote] K I like the DS then. Why? -The touch screen is nice -Music/video (my brother has a season of Family Guy on a DS cartridge) -Mics -Wi-Fi, and ability to play against people all over the world -Internet Browsers -Internet Radio -Operating system+emulators (and you can't play DS games [properly] on a PSP due to lack of touchscreen *rollseyes*) -D-Pad and stylus -Game cartridges, they are far less easily scratched and are generally tougher -More than enough [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS_Games#]titles[/URL] -Cartridges designed specifically for the DS ... I think you get the point.

Quote from Joshgt2

-Who needs a touch screen? The PSP has a screen that is almost twice the size as the one screen and who wants to be looking at 2 screens rather than playing the game?
-Music, Video, Pictures... Simply said? Or must I say about how I can put Transformers onto my PSP and then have the sound track in my music folder and then have my background be Optimus...
-Mics? PSPs have them too..
-Wifi is nice and all, but who is able to access not only other games close to the handheld but also the other ones around the world!
-Web Browser is always nice
-Internet Radio
-Operating system for emulators (Yes, this can be done if you know what you're doing). "This means I could play DS games on the PSP!?! No wai!!"
-Analog stick and D-pad
-Disks, not those stupid game cartridges
-More titles, enough said
-UMDs designed right for the PSP
-PS3 connectivity
-Able to connect to your TV and play your PSP on the big screen

K I like the DS then. Why?

-The touch screen is nice
-Music/video (my brother has a season of Family Guy on a DS cartridge)
-Mics
-Wi-Fi, and ability to play against people all over the world
-Internet Browsers
-Internet Radio
-Operating system+emulators (and you can't play DS games [properly] on a PSP due to lack of touchscreen *rollseyes*)
-D-Pad and stylus
-Game cartridges, they are far less easily scratched and are generally tougher
-More than enough titles
-Cartridges designed specifically for the DS

...

I think you get the point.

[quote=Joshgt2]PSP for the win... -Who needs a touch screen? The PSP has a screen that is almost twice the size as the one screen and who wants to be looking at 2 screens rather than playing the game? [B]Touch Screen is an original idea for a handheld rather then following mainstream. The 2 Screens combined are bigger. And you still play the game it's just that either screen becomes a support. (Such as in mario kart ds, you play with one screen but the bottom one acts as a map)[/B] -Music, Video, Pictures... Simply said? Or must I say about how I can put Transformers onto my PSP and then have the sound track in my music folder and then have my background be Optimus... [B][URL=http://www.gamersection.ca/product_info.php?cPath=30_36&products_id=708]*Cough*[/URL][/B] -Mics? PSPs have them too.. [B]DS built in one is nice but they to have a mic headset...[/B] -Wifi is nice and all, but who is able to access not only other games close to the handheld but also the other ones around the world! [B]Lol, wut?[/B] -Web Browser is always nice [B]DS has some too[/B] -Internet Radio [B]Same[/B] -Operating system for emulators (Yes, this can be done if you know what you're doing). "This means I could play DS games on the PSP!?! No wai!!" [B]No touchscreen = fail. [/B] -Analog stick and D-pad [B]Well, I guess the psp wins there but the stylus can also act as an analog stick (a la super mario 64 ds)[/B] -Disks, not those stupid game cartridges [B]Well, they can get worn out more easily compared to the cartridge[/B] -More titles, enough said [B]O RLY? [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_DS_games]Take UR pick[/URL][/B] -UMDs designed right for the PSP [B]LOL,SO? NDS Cartridge designed right for DS[/B] -PS3 connectivity [B]Wii Connectivity.[/B] -Able to connect to your TV and play your PSP on the big screen [B]Samez[/B] Anything else I have missed? Oh ya, and forget Animal Crossing... That is like playing Viva Pinata which is also gay... [B]What a wonderful ignorant comment.[/B] [B]Gotta love biased kids people. :D I mean, consumerists.[/B] :D [/quote]

Quote from Joshgt2

PSP for the win...

-Who needs a touch screen? The PSP has a screen that is almost twice the size as the one screen and who wants to be looking at 2 screens rather than playing the game?
Touch Screen is an original idea for a handheld rather then following mainstream. The 2 Screens combined are bigger. And you still play the game it's just that either screen becomes a support. (Such as in mario kart ds, you play with one screen but the bottom one acts as a map)

-Music, Video, Pictures... Simply said? Or must I say about how I can put Transformers onto my PSP and then have the sound track in my music folder and then have my background be Optimus...
*Cough*

-Mics? PSPs have them too..
DS built in one is nice but they to have a mic headset...
-Wifi is nice and all, but who is able to access not only other games close to the handheld but also the other ones around the world!
Lol, wut?
-Web Browser is always nice
DS has some too
-Internet Radio
Same
-Operating system for emulators (Yes, this can be done if you know what you're doing). "This means I could play DS games on the PSP!?! No wai!!"
No touchscreen = fail.
-Analog stick and D-pad
Well, I guess the psp wins there but the stylus can also act as an analog stick (a la super mario 64 ds)
-Disks, not those stupid game cartridges
Well, they can get worn out more easily compared to the cartridge
-More titles, enough said
O RLY? Take UR pick
-UMDs designed right for the PSP
LOL,SO? NDS Cartridge designed right for DS
-PS3 connectivity
Wii Connectivity.
-Able to connect to your TV and play your PSP on the big screen
Samez

Anything else I have missed? Oh ya, and forget Animal Crossing... That is like playing Viva Pinata which is also gay...
What a wonderful ignorant comment.

Gotta love biased kids people. I mean, consumerists.

I love the people who're like "LOL PSP BTR GRPHX LOL" while failing to realise that they're both only capable of outputting the graphical equivalent of early N64 games. The DS normally has to use it's single processor to render to two separate screens, so it normally takes a performance hit. It can render in 3D just as well as PSP.

I love the people who're like "LOL PSP BTR GRPHX LOL" while failing to realise that they're both only capable of outputting the graphical equivalent of early N64 games. The DS normally has to use it's single processor to render to two separate screens, so it normally takes a performance hit. It can render in 3D just as well as PSP.

Yeah. But it doesn't matter what something can do, if it doesn't do it. I can quite easily murder several people in a night, it doesn't matter if i don't do it though. [hurrah for EXTREEEEEEEME metaphorz]

Yeah.

But it doesn't matter what something can do, if it doesn't do it.

I can quite easily murder several people in a night, it doesn't matter if i don't do it though. [hurrah for EXTREEEEEEEME metaphorz]

[quote=candle12345]Yeah. But it doesn't matter what something can do, if it doesn't do it. I can quite easily murder several people in a night, it doesn't matter if i don't do it though. [hurrah for EXTREEEEEEEME metaphorz][/quote] It does do it though. These people are thinking games like Yoshi Touch & Go are benchmarks.

Quote from candle12345

Yeah.

But it doesn't matter what something can do, if it doesn't do it.

I can quite easily murder several people in a night, it doesn't matter if i don't do it though. [hurrah for EXTREEEEEEEME metaphorz]

It does do it though. These people are thinking games like Yoshi Touch & Go are benchmarks.

I disagree, the psp has seemed to me alot more capable then the DS graphics wise. Not that graphics makes a game, but its stillnice to see. and personally, i think that the psp outdid the n64 graphics by a long run.

I disagree, the psp has seemed to me alot more capable then the DS graphics wise. Not that graphics makes a game, but its stillnice to see. and personally, i think that the psp outdid the n64 graphics by a long run.

Although, DS has a better quality pair of screens, they don't suffer from the bug with black. [it leaves a sort of trail] and the contrast is real good. On the other hand, my PSP has smaller pixels than ym computer screen, so it looks sexy.

Although, DS has a better quality pair of screens, they don't suffer from the bug with black. [it leaves a sort of trail] and the contrast is real good.
On the other hand, my PSP has smaller pixels than ym computer screen, so it looks sexy.

[quote=Dapperdan][quote=Deathman101]:dontgetit: whats so good about Animal Crossing?[/quote] Almost everything.[/quote] This.

Quote from Dapperdan

Quote from Deathman101

whats so good about Animal Crossing?

Almost everything.

This.

[quote=Voyager7456][quote=Dapperdan][quote=Deathman101]:dontgetit: whats so good about Animal Crossing?[/quote] Almost everything.[/quote] This.[/quote] Huh? Whats that supposed to mean?

Quote from Voyager7456

Quote from Dapperdan

Quote from Deathman101

whats so good about Animal Crossing?

Almost everything.

This.

Huh? Whats that supposed to mean?

[quote=Nintendo_Confed][quote=Voyager7456][quote=Dapperdan][quote=Deathman101]:dontgetit: whats so good about Animal Crossing?[/quote] Almost everything.[/quote] This.[/quote] Huh? Whats that supposed to mean?[/quote] It means Voyager agrees with me that Animal Crossing is awesome.

Quote from Nintendo_Confed

Quote from Voyager7456

Quote from Dapperdan

Quote from Deathman101

whats so good about Animal Crossing?

Almost everything.

This.

Huh? Whats that supposed to mean?

It means Voyager agrees with me that Animal Crossing is awesome.

[QUOTE]I disagree, the psp has seemed to me alot more capable then the DS graphics wise.[/QUOTE] Did you not read what Syphon said? The DS has to use it's single processor to render both screens. [QUOTE]Not that graphics makes a game, but its stillnice to see.[/QUOTE] That sentence conflicts with its self. You claim the graphics don't make a game, but you still like that it does. WTF. :sneaky: [QUOTE]and personally, i think that the psp outdid the n64 graphics by a long run.[/QUOTE] :| Ever heard the saying, "better graphics, doesn't make a better game or game system."

Quote

I disagree, the psp has seemed to me alot more capable then the DS graphics wise.

Did you not read what Syphon said? The DS has to use it's single processor to render both screens.

Quote

Not that graphics makes a game, but its stillnice to see.

That sentence conflicts with its self. You claim the graphics don't make a game, but you still like that it does. WTF.

Quote

and personally, i think that the psp outdid the n64 graphics by a long run.

Ever heard the saying, "better graphics, doesn't make a better game or game system."

[quote=name:JordanN][QUOTE]I disagree, the psp has seemed to me alot more capable then the DS graphics wise.[/QUOTE] Did you not read what Syphon said? The DS has to use it's single processor to render both screens. [QUOTE]Not that graphics makes a game, but its stillnice to see.[/QUOTE] That sentence conflicts with its self. You claim the graphics don't make a game, but you still like that it does. WTF. :sneaky: [QUOTE]and personally, i think that the psp outdid the n64 graphics by a long run.[/QUOTE] :| Ever heard the saying, "better graphics, doesn't make a better game or game system."[/quote] I was very vague with my statement by the way, i didnt mean its nice to see the game being made by the graphics. you interpreted it wrong, and i didnt project it clearly. my bad. i think that the side scroller mario is still one of the best games on the face of the planet. Graphics do not make a game, i never said that they did. But it is nice to have a game that is good with good graphics on the side. such as... halo3. cod4. wow. bioshock. im not saying they are good because they look good, they are good, and having it look nice is a plus. i like mario kart. i think that the n64 was better then the psp, but the psp simply out does the graphics. i would prefer an n64 in my hands rather then a psp. i loved mario 64, and pokemon stadium, and diddy kong racing (my favorite :D)...

Quote from JordanN

Quote

I disagree, the psp has seemed to me alot more capable then the DS graphics wise.

Did you not read what Syphon said? The DS has to use it's single processor to render both screens.

Quote

Not that graphics makes a game, but its stillnice to see.

That sentence conflicts with its self. You claim the graphics don't make a game, but you still like that it does. WTF.

Quote

and personally, i think that the psp outdid the n64 graphics by a long run.

Ever heard the saying, "better graphics, doesn't make a better game or game system."

I was very vague with my statement by the way, i didnt mean its nice to see the game being made by the graphics. you interpreted it wrong, and i didnt project it clearly. my bad. i think that the side scroller mario is still one of the best games on the face of the planet. Graphics do not make a game, i never said that they did. But it is nice to have a game that is good with good graphics on the side. such as... halo3. cod4. wow. bioshock. im not saying they are good because they look good, they are good, and having it look nice is a plus. i like mario kart. i think that the n64 was better then the psp, but the psp simply out does the graphics. i would prefer an n64 in my hands rather then a psp. i loved mario 64, and pokemon stadium, and diddy kong racing (my favorite )...

Hmm. Screens generally have their own drivers, so unless you are [i]constantly[/i] updating [i]both[/i] there shouldn't be much of a "performance hit". If you make the game right you can make each screen read the same buffer... then all your screen updating routine'd have to do is push the first half of the buffer into the top and the second into the bottom... oooh. not that big of a hit (even if it rendered 3D.) Think of this: with a processor running at 6mHz I can update a screen [i]many[/i] times (fast enough to make adequate greyscale on a monochrome screen with a [i]slow[/i] driver) when the routine is in an interrupt that runs about every 140Hz. It does [i]not[/i] take much to update a screen, even with a slow processor. Also Wiki says DS has two processors... 67MHz and 33Hz. I could do [i]much[/i] with that. >.> And Wiki says that it has hardware limitations on screens or something... Doesn't the top generally display stats, maps, and information anyway? What do you really need on the screen(s) that is so intense on the processor [i]at the same time[/i]? what the hell? PSP stats says "clocked from 1 to 333 MHz" how does that work? >.> Hmm. This is a tough choice for me. I have only played a couple DS games and never played a PSP game... Media storage is a plus for PSP, though. All my friends have a DS, which is a plus for that (and multiplay Tetris)... I wouldn't be willing to pay for either, though. :P

Hmm. Screens generally have their own drivers, so unless you are constantly updating both there shouldn't be much of a "performance hit". If you make the game right you can make each screen read the same buffer... then all your screen updating routine'd have to do is push the first half of the buffer into the top and the second into the bottom... oooh. not that big of a hit (even if it rendered 3D.) Think of this: with a processor running at 6mHz I can update a screen many times (fast enough to make adequate greyscale on a monochrome screen with a slow driver) when the routine is in an interrupt that runs about every 140Hz. It does not take much to update a screen, even with a slow processor. Also Wiki says DS has two processors... 67MHz and 33Hz. I could do much with that. >.>
And Wiki says that it has hardware limitations on screens or something...

Doesn't the top generally display stats, maps, and information anyway? What do you really need on the screen(s) that is so intense on the processor at the same time?

what the hell? PSP stats says "clocked from 1 to 333 MHz" how does that work? >.>

Hmm. This is a tough choice for me. I have only played a couple DS games and never played a PSP game... Media storage is a plus for PSP, though. All my friends have a DS, which is a plus for that (and multiplay Tetris)... I wouldn't be willing to pay for either, though.

DS is cheaper, has everything the PSP has, and more, and it's extremely sexy. Who cares about graphics unless the bad graphics are ruining gameplay, which they aren't.

DS is cheaper, has everything the PSP has, and more, and it's extremely sexy. Who cares about graphics unless the bad graphics are ruining gameplay, which they aren't.

The DS is the only console that has two screens, thus making it unique. Two screens generally offers you gameplay that's different than other single screen consoles. People sure can use that puff of fresh air. [quote=name:Dapperdan][quote=Nintendo_Confed][quote=Voyager7456][quote=Dapperdan][quote=Deathman101]:dontgetit: whats so good about Animal Crossing?[/quote] Almost everything.[/quote] This.[/quote] Huh? Whats that supposed to mean?[/quote] It means Voyager agrees with me that Animal Crossing is awesome.[/quote] This.

The DS is the only console that has two screens, thus making it unique. Two screens generally offers you gameplay that's different than other single screen consoles.
People sure can use that puff of fresh air.

Quote from Dapperdan

Quote from Nintendo_Confed

Quote from Voyager7456

Quote from Dapperdan

Quote from Deathman101

whats so good about Animal Crossing?

Almost everything.

This.

Huh? Whats that supposed to mean?

It means Voyager agrees with me that Animal Crossing is awesome.

This.

We're gonna have to wi-fi some day, Dapperdan xD

We're gonna have to wi-fi some day, Dapperdan xD