Why do we have to care how nibbits moderates itself?

Those that say, "We need more of this, and that there too."
Well, ok, we need that, but why are you waiting for someone else to do it? If you know what SEN lacks, then be the first to do something about it.
Just like these promotions, we can't wait for the right guy to come along. The said person might not be ready for such a position, but like Ex, they'll certainly develop the necessary requirements in time.

I hate to compare SEN to Star Wars, (hehe) but we're like Yoda. Yes, yoda. We're an old, small community, but we're the strongest community, and the most knowledgeable in the field of what we do. We certainly have what it takes to become the elite site we once were, with all of our really loyal members, and experienced staff.

About the PR. Whoever said we need more than one is on the dot. One alone can do it, but there won't be much motivation for this person to do much if it is taking him so long to create one video, one map, and everything else in between. The PR needs a team like American Idol's judges. Ex would definitely fit the Simon role, I'd love to see JaFF there too, and with devilesk's way of wording things to calm, and convince Ex, we'd have a well balanced team as well.

I hate to see the community fall over and argue because we can't get along. Guess what? The new members are reading our bickering, and thinking to themselves that they might not want to be a part of such a community. I'm not saying we all need to get along either, but maybe keeping the low blows to PMs would help.

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Because if what IP has been telling me isn't an exaggeration, Nibbits and SEN are going to get a lot more affiliated then you realize.

Ex, I simply don't agree with pressuring someone who's giving us free money and publicity. Don't take too much for granted, all that.

I'm sure we could state a case for such concerns without harming relations Cent.

Sure. But I believe you've stated your case repeatedly, and to no avail.

Yoshi? As in xYoshix? ..
or the Yoshi da sniper

Maybe it's because i'm not as senior as you are.. but I have never seen Yoshi before... and I don't see much posts from him.. nor do I see him on B.net..
Why'd u appoint someone who don't show up PR? But okay.. you've said ur point.

Why don't you help david out with the wiki <.< ..
i'm sure your language decency will be of use there

What nibbits did to you, as you would've said to them, a mistake. Which you said you'd tolerate on previous posts..
Growth is important now, in order for us to stay on the wave... I think devilesk put it best
"There is no reason why we cannot maintain a level of high quality while also striving for quantity. "

Content goes hand in hand with advertising and PR. For example, if you make a video tutorial that's valuable content right there. You put it on youtube and you can also give a shoutout to SEN. When people go looking for tutorials and other references they'll find SEN.

Also, we should stop thinking of other communities as so different from our own. The only thing that makes us unique is our own unique history and tradition. Otherwise, people are essentially the same no matter where you go. We're all human beings.

Perhaps me not being the best diplomat, shouldn't be doing it. Yes I'm the one pushing that its a good idea, but I have yet to be given any reason by anyone as to why its a bad one. Nibbits had bad mappers giving other bad mappers bad advice. We should give a nudge in the right direction to correct these issues, if SEN is about improving and furthering mapping this should concern us. I mean, I'd be happy to go in and post 'Hey guys neither of you are really correct you might want to go read this page over on SEN to teach you about this' but I'm not sure if that sort of advertisement/redirection is allowed at Nibbits.

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Yoshi is Yoshi Da Sniper, he founded SEN, he was Maplantis' creator and admin as well. Yoshi's community talents are evident in this very page you post on. SEN wouldn't have lasted a day without his leadership. When it comes to community expertise, there can be no other, he is truly gifted in this area. I have seen him in some TF2 communities and he seamlessly integrates from a newby into a well liked member in a matter of days. The guys got talent, and we know we can trust him to do the right thing.

I really couldn't be of much help yet. I have yet to play the beta legitimately, since my PC has been down for a couple of months. I've been posting on SEN from a backup PC with a Geforce 4.

Indeed devilesk is correct, its a good goal and I just want to make sure the goals we set are goals we can achieve.

Yoshi da Sniper, the creator of SEN and Maplantis. He doesn't post here anymore because he has no reason to. Yoshi was a good admin, and there were happy times in SENland (for the most part) when he was around.

Also, take a look at this youtube video tutorial Yoshi posted on his channel. I specifically want to point out what he says at around 1:20. I hope it serves as a wake up call for all of SEN.



He says two of the best mapping sites he knows of are battle.net and sc2mapster. And honestly, that's the undeniable truth right now.

Yoshi produces a lot of great content and would be a great asset to whatever community he goes to.

truth

Not all of us are in here wasting time and energy, and are actually doing things to better the community.

SEN needs a new social admin, and a lot of people want a PR admin. If you aren't appointing either of these positions, then the members here that want to make a difference need to go make a map, work on the SCII wiki, or something else similar to benefit SEN. This whole thread is mainly a waste of celluloid.

As a friend of mine bluntly put it: Two hands working make more of a difference than a thousand in prayer (wasting their time discussing a bunch of random points).

In fact, I remember showing the site to some sc2mapster members and they said it had a very aging skin, which won't help our cause.
Anyways, just had to say that there -are- noobs that think that way (that skins represents content).

Yeah, I checked the sites we posted our advertisement up on. Many people commented on the site looking dated.

*Chants* V6, V6, V6, V6!

Right now, I am starting to think that contest idea wasn't a good idea: we are advertising a site that isn't to its best and people are forging ideas on it.
No way they will return to a site that they believe to be out-dated.
We'll need a good work on advertising the v6.

The skin for v6 looks great so far, so the look of SEN wont be a problem once that comes out.

I still say one of our major issues now is content.

v6 isn't close to completion.

Commission a new skin? .

Our major issue is indeed content. v6 doesn't automatically mean a better default skin, it just enables skinning to do more and slightly better ui.
Everything else relies on content.