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[2017-5-14. : 9:06 pm] Zoan -- We could like, if we care enough, make a separate TS community and have a link on this site sending people to there[2017-5-14. : 9:06 pm] Zoan -- Well, it's like a bunch of StarCraft people going to Blizzard.com and setting up a community there xD[2017-5-14. : 9:05 pm]  Swampfox -- But that's exactly why Ex is trying to keep that community out. It's not about elitism as he said, it's just that they are a different community.[2017-5-14. : 9:04 pm]  Voyager7456 -- SwampfoxSwampfox shouted: Even then though. I feel like that could create splits in the TS community, who then work up a storm here on SEN. then they'll get the bop, problem solved[2017-5-14. : 9:03 pm] Lanthanide -- er, I don't think I've seen anyone from the TS community in the shoutbox on SEN in the last 5 years[2017-5-14. : 9:02 pm] Swampfox -- Even then though. I feel like that could create splits in the TS community, who then work up a storm here on SEN.[2017-5-14. : 9:01 pm] Voyager7456 -- ZoanZoan shouted: It's not like this is a 'forced update to TS,' people very well will just play older versions if they don't like the updates the guy pays money for. This is key I think[2017-5-14. : 9:01 pm] Swampfox -- ZoanZoan shouted: It's not like this is a 'forced update to TS,' people very well will just play older versions if they don't like the updates the guy pays money for. That's a good point actually; I didn't really think of that.[2017-5-14. : 9:00 pm] Zoan -- It's not like this is a 'forced update to TS,' people very well will just play older versions if they don't like the updates the guy pays money for.[2017-5-14. : 8:59 pm] Swampfox -- ZoanZoan shouted: and wtf, if we got a thing going where rich people come to SEN every now and then anf give money to us for making friggin StarCraft maps, that would be amazing. I think those good at making maps would monetarily benefit greatly, but the community aspect of SEN would suffer.[2017-5-14. : 8:59 pm]  Moose -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: Swampfox so what? Do you think he's going to force whoever edits the map to make changes only he likes? Moose would be the only one to edit it, and he's not going to do anything that's imbalanced LMAO If he's paying for it, yes, that's exactly what he would do. LMAO[2017-5-14. : 8:58 pm] Dem0n -- SwampfoxSwampfox shouted: Dem0n He's an avid player of the map who is paying for changes to said map. I know that Temple Siege can be competitive. It definitely applies here. so what? Do you think he's going to force whoever edits the map to make changes only he likes? Moose would be the only one to edit it, and he's not going to do anything that's imbalanced LMAO[2017-5-14. : 8:58 pm] Zoan -- and wtf, if we got a thing going where rich people come to SEN every now and then anf give money to us for making friggin StarCraft maps, that would be amazing.[2017-5-14. : 8:55 pm] Swampfox -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: what conflict of interest? this isn't politics LMAO He's an avid player of the map who is paying for changes to said map. I know that Temple Siege can be competitive. It definitely applies here.[2017-5-14. : 8:54 pm] Swampfox -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: I'm confused, are you saying SEN wouldn't benefit from the occasional mapping commission? And no, I don't think it would.[2017-5-14. : 8:54 pm] Swampfox -- I think the problem with mapping commission in cases like this would be a conflict of interest.[2017-5-14. : 8:53 pm] jjf28 -- I'm confused, are you saying SEN wouldn't benefit from the occasional mapping commission?[2017-5-14. : 8:53 pm] Moose -- Also, SwampfoxSwampfox shouted: and this is A MAPMAKING community but SwampfoxSwampfox shouted: case in point - Broflamingo, an avid player of Temple Siege brought to SEN specifically by the map, in his first post on the forums offers money for changes to be made to Temple Siege. Is that something that SEN needs? literally supporting map development[2017-5-14. : 8:51 pm] Swampfox -- That experience being me logging in 20 minutes ago and seeing Broflamingos post lol[2017-5-14. : 8:50 pm] Swampfox -- I was just trying to show parallel between Ex's post on players brought here by TS, and my experience with a player brought here by TS.[2017-5-14. : 8:48 pm] jjf28 -- technically my first post was about EUDs and not helms specifically and my second post was hosting/advertising the map, but w/e[2017-5-14. : 8:46 pm] Moose -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Swampfox jjf28, an avid player of Helms Deep brought to SEN specifically for the map, just sayin' https://youtu.be/FAMlAhpv7Ss?t=4s jjrekt28[2017-5-14. : 8:46 pm] Swampfox -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Swampfox no this is an SC1 community I would disagree by saying that's not descriptive enough. Staredit is literally in the name of the site. It's an SC1 community focused on mapmaking.[2017-5-14. : 8:45 pm] jjf28 -- SwampfoxSwampfox shouted: case in point - Broflamingo, an avid player of Temple Siege brought to SEN specifically by the map, in his first post on the forums offers money for changes to be made to Temple Siege. Is that something that SEN needs? jjf28, an avid player of Helms Deep brought to SEN specifically for the map, just sayin' https://youtu.be/FAMlAhpv7Ss?t=4s[2017-5-14. : 8:45 pm] Moose -- SwampfoxSwampfox shouted: So when Temple Siege brings people here, it brings the highly competitive players of the game, not mapmakers SwampfoxSwampfox shouted: and this is A MAPMAKING community Maps are made to be played. There's some research and demonstrations sure, but usually.[2017-5-14. : 8:45 pm] Swampfox -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Swampfox To be fair, he's lurked in the shoutbox for quite awhile. Does it matter that it's his first post or not when there is so few posts compared to shouts these days? Also, he has posts on another account. C|X^D Ah okay, I don't really know the details[2017-5-14. : 8:45 pm] lil-Inferno -- SwampfoxSwampfox shouted: and this is A MAPMAKING community no this is an SC1 community[2017-5-14. : 8:44 pm] Moose -- SwampfoxSwampfox shouted: case in point - Broflamingo, an avid player of Temple Siege brought to SEN specifically by the map, in his first post on the forums offers money for changes to be made to Temple Siege. Is that something that SEN needs? To be fair, he's lurked in the shoutbox for quite awhile. Does it matter that it's his first post or not when there is so few posts compared to shouts these days? Also, he has posts on another account. C|X^D[2017-5-14. : 8:40 pm] Swampfox -- case in point - Broflamingo, an avid player of Temple Siege brought to SEN specifically by the map, in his first post on the forums offers money for changes to be made to Temple Siege. Is that something that SEN needs?[2017-5-14. : 8:32 pm] Swampfox -- They are not invested in what the rest of the site may have to offer. They will only care about their precious Temple Siege[2017-5-14. : 8:32 pm] Swampfox -- So when Temple Siege brings people here, it brings the highly competitive players of the game, not mapmakers[2017-5-14. : 8:31 pm] Swampfox -- But what I think Ex is really getting at, is that Temple Siege is like this whole other game in itself. It's a MOBA almost entirely removed from SC that has its entirely own community.[2017-5-14. : 8:30 pm] Swampfox -- I've literally played no part in the whole thing, I've never even played Temple Siege[2017-5-14. : 8:29 pm] Swampfox -- I'd like to drop in some input on the whole Temple Siege thing, see what you guys thinkI've[2017-5-14. : 7:47 pm] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Ya, that's the tricky part. Especially with money involved for improving it now. mapping tycoon  [2017-5-14. : 7:39 pm] Broflamingo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: IDK, if it's M I think I want to do it, but I'm slow AF LMAO Understood.[2017-5-14. : 7:38 pm] lil-Inferno -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Broflamingo Ya, never locked, mint condition O_O Sell on ebay O_O[2017-5-14. : 7:37 pm] Broflamingo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Ya, that's the tricky part. Especially with money involved for improving it now. Offer?[2017-5-14. : 7:37 pm] Moose -- Ya, that's the tricky part. Especially with money involved for improving it now.[2017-5-14. : 7:36 pm] Broflamingo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Broflamingo Ya, never locked, mint condition O_O can i haz plz?[2017-5-14. : 7:35 pm] Moose -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: So moose u got unlocked ver of M series? Ya, never locked, mint condition O_O[2017-5-14. : 7:22 pm] poiuy_qwert -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: poiuy_qwert You always link to the github when people ask to use it, just create issues IMO Now that would be smart. The public github was setup long after I stopped doing continuous development, so I never got into the habit of using it[2017-5-14. : 7:16 pm] Moose -- poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Nope You always link to the github when people ask to use it, just create issues IMO I'm bad at remembering to do stuff, I need it to go in a thread and have people periodically poke me for it  [2017-5-14. : 7:13 pm] poiuy_qwert -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: poiuy_qwert I waited ten minutes for the shoutbox search to finish, then fought with page numbers because the context links are horrible LMAO lol[2017-5-14. : 7:12 pm] poiuy_qwert -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Has it been updated in the 6 months since then for this functionality? Nope I'm bad at remembering to do stuff, I need it to go in a thread and have people periodically poke me for it [2017-5-14. : 7:11 pm] Moose -- poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Lol how did you find all those so quickly? I waited ten minutes for the shoutbox search to finish, then fought with page numbers because the context links are horrible LMAO[2017-5-14. : 7:11 pm] poiuy_qwert -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: poiuy_qwert poiuy_qwert poiuy_qwert Mini Moose 2707 Mini Moose 2707 poiuy_qwert poiuy_qwert Mini Moose 2707 poiuy_qwert Mini Moose 2707 poiuy_qwert so much for PyMS. I had a feeling this entire discussion happened already. Lol how did you find all those so quickly? [2017-5-14. : 7:09 pm] Moose -- Has it been updated in the 6 months since then for this functionality?[2017-5-14. : 7:08 pm] Moose -- poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: Mini Moose 2707 PyMS has that functionality poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: its never been fully tested, and i'm not sure how user friendly it is, but if you are interested i can do some work on it poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: hmm, looks like I never made the command line interface for it Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Can't use it for git diff then, smh Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: ./setup.py: line 2: $'\r': command not found, ./setup.py: line 3: progs: command not found, ./setup.py: line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `progs.append', '/setup.py: line 5: ` progs.append({"script":prog + ".pyw","icon_resources": [(1, "Images\\%s.ico" % prog)]}), SMFH poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: yeah not user friendly poiuy_qwert not that scriptpoiuy_qwert shouted: i would have to make some updates or make you a little script Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Also, which of these 13 programs even takes an SCX anyway? They all seem like they work with modding files, with the exception of PyTRG, but nobody uses TRG files anymore. poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Well it would be PyMAP but it doesn't have a command line interface yet and the GUI will never be usable Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: poiuy_qwert Not even in the documentation SMH poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: yeah, its not really "released" so much for PyMS. I had a feeling this entire discussion happened already. [2017-5-14. : 7:07 pm] Moose -- poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: lil-Inferno PyMS supports converting maps to/from text Ya, too bad the broodwarai link still dead like I told you last time LMAO[2017-5-14. : 7:06 pm] Broflamingo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: TBH, I had plans for a goon hero, but I always wanted to get shit done right before adding new heroes. I also had new ideas for Assault and LM, but w/e. Again, not trying to beat a dead horse but Ex essentially threw him under the bus. He can use "LOGIC THEREFORE I DIDNT DO ANYTHING" but we are human and we can read in between the lines.[2017-5-14. : 7:05 pm] Broflamingo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: But since I found out I've only been the "polisher" for TS, given sufficient time I'd rather just make my own LMAO UU got emotional, think he deserves a break. Everyone in the TS community is grateful for your work. Some leftover toxicity got heaped on to him.[2017-5-14. : 7:04 pm] Moose -- TBH, I had plans for a goon hero, but I always wanted to get shit done right before adding new heroes. I also had new ideas for Assault and LM, but w/e.[2017-5-14. : 7:02 pm] Broflamingo -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Sure sounds better, but Alch, General, and MAg should be implemented. I thought starting from His would have alleviated that lift.[2017-5-14. : 7:02 pm] Moose -- But since I found out I've only been the "polisher" for TS, given sufficient time I'd rather just make my own LMAO |
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