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[2017-10-25. : 5:14 am] NudeRaider -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: NudeRaider I think http vas. https is the smallest issue that SEN has, considering everything I know about the state of the code and server it's only funny if you actually read the paragraph[2017-10-25. : 1:06 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: on the plus side, our security-through-obscurity game is strong all the random adbots seem to suggest otherwise [2017-10-24. : 8:07 pm] Voyager7456 -- on the plus side, our security-through-obscurity game is strong[2017-10-24. : 8:06 pm] Voyager7456 -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: NudeRaider I think http vas. https is the smallest issue that SEN has, considering everything I know about the state of the code and server yeah lmao[2017-10-24. : 7:51 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: *reads the paragraph about https* https://imgur.com/gallery/KgQPL *stares at Moose* I think http vas. https is the smallest issue that SEN has, considering everything I know about the state of the code and server [2017-10-24. : 7:48 pm] NudeRaider -- *reads the paragraph about https* https://imgur.com/gallery/KgQPL *stares at Moose*[2017-10-24. : 6:32 pm] Voyager7456 -- Also from the preview, next week's episode is what, Cause and Effect, only with boarding parties?[2017-10-24. : 6:31 pm] Voyager7456 -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: wow... Lorca is such a bastard true facts, what a jackass[2017-10-24. : 5:26 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Suicidal Insanity can't you just be like "w/e, pay me and I do it" and force their hand lmao But that also means I can choose what to work on, and e.g. add support for burning buildings instead of something that would be more useful [2017-10-24. : 5:24 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Suicidal Insanity can't you just be like "w/e, pay me and I do it" and force their hand lmao I mean all the feedback / requests in the various threads.[2017-10-24. : 4:44 pm] lil-Inferno -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Rewarded? All I got was more work can't you just be like "w/e, pay me and I do it" and force their hand lmao[2017-10-24. : 3:29 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Rewarded? All I got was more work And I've paid 20x as much in hosting costs of whatever donations I got[2017-10-24. : 3:27 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: lil-Inferno Oddly enough, with SCMD2 we now apparently have a case of someone being rewarded for violating the TOS LMAO Rewarded? All I got was more work [2017-10-24. : 2:20 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: Mini Moose 2707 but in practice, you'd have to disassemble the Program in order to make progress in reverse-engineering the CHK format other than maybe like ISOM or VCOD sections, that's not really true. It's just pattern matching ... for example, Voy's been giving me data files for random games and I've been extracting the data without touching (or in some cases even having) the EXE[2017-10-24. : 1:30 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- DankBudSmokerDankBudSmoker shouted: Suicidal Insanity I dont know it for sure, just heard that blizzard supports scmdraft now. Since I wrote ScmDraft, I think I would know [2017-10-24. : 1:29 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: SI is under an NDA but i doubt blizz is actually communicating with him directly, at least based on what he's said I have a bit of contact, but mostly its been me answering their questions and not a lot of them answering my questions...[2017-10-24. : 1:09 pm] lil-Inferno -- JackJack shouted: lil-Inferno ur too ez bro why would I waste my TIME I gave you the boppy bop last time tho[2017-10-24. : 11:40 am] jjf28 -- DankBudSmokerDankBudSmoker shouted: seems likely that they will add password protection since they support protecting maps but not sketchy programs to do it this is a very disturbing breach of trust DankbudSmoker [2017-10-24. : 11:37 am] Pr0nogo -- SI is under an NDA but i doubt blizz is actually communicating with him directly, at least based on what he's said[2017-10-24. : 11:32 am] DankBudSmoker -- seems likely that they will add password protection since they support protecting maps but not sketchy programs to do it[2017-10-24. : 11:31 am] DankBudSmoker -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: DankBudSmoker That is news to me I dont know it for sure, just heard that blizzard supports scmdraft now.[2017-10-24. : 10:43 am] Moose -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: Mini Moose 2707 but in practice, you'd have to disassemble the Program in order to make progress in reverse-engineering the CHK format Did we need to, though? If you figure out the data structures and assume StarCraft.exe reads them correctly, you don't have to care about the implementation StarCraft.exe uses to read them.[2017-10-24. : 8:55 am] Suicidal Insanity -- DankBudSmokerDankBudSmoker shouted: they are going to be adding a password thing for maps in scmdraft, supported by blizzard That is news to me [2017-10-24. : 8:48 am] Suicidal Insanity -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: DankBudSmoker such as SCMDraft? LMAOOOOOOOO ScmDraft doesn't modify any starcraft files. It writes new files to disk which starcraft happens to be able to read, but that is a different story than messing with the MPQs / EXEs / etc[2017-10-24. : 7:11 am] Lanthanide -- so long as you could prove to Blizzard that you didn't support or encourage them[2017-10-24. : 7:11 am] Lanthanide -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: not 100% sure I'm even allowed to retroactively up the license on the code, much less given that it's been forked a couple time jjf28jjf28 shouted: maybe I should put it under a more restrictive licence so it can't be commercialized... you can up the license for your official version of it, but if you don't add (m)any new features compared to the original license version, then there's no reason for anyone to care[2017-10-24. : 7:10 am] Lanthanide -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: But to protect a map, you're reverse-engineering the CHK format, not really the executable. but in practice, you'd have to disassemble the Program in order to make progress in reverse-engineering the CHK format[2017-10-24. : 6:24 am] NudeRaider -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: https://imgur.com/gallery/4XLV4 Dem0nDem0n shouted: holy fuck that would be indeed one holy fuck there[2017-10-24. : 6:16 am] NudeRaider -- DankBudSmokerDankBudSmoker shouted: gets deleted without a reason as to why sorry for the confusion. Your last sentence in that post was "Would this be allowed?" to which I replied "No " in the reason field.[2017-10-24. : 5:46 am] *payne runs naked around*[2017-10-24. : 4:57 am] Jack -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: ayy Jacc, 1v1 Fighting Spirit? ur too ez bro why would I waste my TIME[2017-10-24. : 2:48 am] lil-Inferno -- I mean we're saying "they" like it's not just 4 memers working on SC: R lmao[2017-10-24. : 2:47 am] lil-Inferno -- DankBudSmokerDankBudSmoker shouted: officially scmdraft and map protectors obviously violate TOS DankBudSmokerDankBudSmoker shouted: but also blizzard really couldnt care less, until now at least nah I don't think they really care[2017-10-24. : 2:44 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: not 100% sure I'm even allowed to retroactively up the license on the code, much less given that it's been forked a couple time jjf28jjf28 shouted: I'll prolly just leave it be unless someone makes a stink out of it eh, w/e[2017-10-24. : 2:33 am] jjf28 -- not 100% sure I'm even allowed to retroactively up the license on the code, much less given that it's been forked a couple time[2017-10-24. : 2:20 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- like, make functionally similar code and not instruction--by-instruction copy xD[2017-10-24. : 2:20 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- my original plan was to disassemble it and then clean it up and simplify it to remove a bunch of the unnecessary stuff that graphics only don't use[2017-10-24. : 2:19 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I could probably also finish it so that there's not just huge chunks of starcraft.exe's assembly in it xD[2017-10-24. : 2:19 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- you could probably just put that one file under a stricter license[2017-10-24. : 2:19 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- but I also think blizzard realizes that they only benefit from people expanding capabilities which increase the enjoyment of their userbase ;o[2017-10-24. : 2:19 am] jjf28 -- maybe I should put it under a more restrictive licence so it can't be commercialized...[2017-10-24. : 2:18 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- it's doing that, and making it publicly available (though not commercializing it)[2017-10-24. : 2:18 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- also, that clause makes me weary of what I added to CHKD xD[2017-10-24. : 2:17 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- modifications to the EXE they can detect (and have, with warren) and ban your CDKey or wahtever[2017-10-24. : 2:17 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: "you may not, in whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code, modify, disassemble, decompile, create derivative works based on the Program" o, guess we've done a lot of that, too LMAO what? no, we've never done that :3[2017-10-24. : 2:17 am] Moose -- But to protect a map, you're reverse-engineering the CHK format, not really the executable. |