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PC got flooded, making new one.
May 3 2013, 6:01 pm
By: Wing Zero  

May 3 2013, 6:01 pm Wing Zero Post #1

Magic box god; Suck it Corbo

My basement got flooded recently and unfortunatly my PC was a victim of that tragedy. Luckily I did have insurance so I am making this thread to buy myself a replacement.

I think I can save the CPU because the water didnt reach it, but everything else looks like it didnt make it.

My budget like last time is around $1400 to $1500 so lets see what you can come up with. :)


Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on May 8 2013, 3:11 pm by Wing Zero.




May 3 2013, 6:23 pm Excalibur Post #2

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($106.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.61 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($293.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R3 Silver Arrow ATX Mid Tower Case ($77.94 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1102.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-03 14:23 EDT-0400)

And due to the water I wouldn't trust any components out of the old build. ;o

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on May 3 2013, 6:33 pm by Excalibur.




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May 3 2013, 6:36 pm Azrael Post #3



And here's a second build you can make with all the money you have left over.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium E5700 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Masscool 8W553B1M3 41.1 CFM Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($8.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-G41MT-S2PT Micro ATX LGA775 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($25.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Scorpio Blue 250GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.00 @ Compuvest)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce 8400 GS 1GB Video Card ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Sparkle 400W ATX12V Power Supply ($46.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHAS324-98 DVD/CD Writer ($22.29 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $341.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-03 14:35 EDT-0400)




May 3 2013, 6:53 pm Fire_Kame Post #4

wth is starcraft

Buy Raspberry Pis. Enough to warrant $1k.




May 3 2013, 8:51 pm ShredderIV Post #5



Just a question Ex, why do you recommend the 840 when its been benchmarked to be slower than even the 830? why not suggest the 840 pro? Or just the 830?



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May 3 2013, 8:55 pm Wing Zero Post #6

Magic box god; Suck it Corbo

Quote from Excalibur
And due to the water I wouldn't trust any components out of the old build. ;o

I know for a fact that the water didnt reach the CPU. The RAM looks ok as well but im gonna try calling in to see if the warrenty will cover a replacement. With that in mind I still have $1500 to mess around with for an early upgrade. :P

Also I'm not much of a fan of that case you picked out.





May 3 2013, 8:58 pm Excalibur Post #7

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Quote from ShredderIV
Just a question Ex, why do you recommend the 840 when its been benchmarked to be slower than even the 830? why not suggest the 840 pro? Or just the 830?
I doubt he's going to notice much of a difference between the two and going with the newer part is reflex. Either way, Samsung 800 series SSDs are where its at.

Quote from Wing Zero
Quote from Excalibur
And due to the water I wouldn't trust any components out of the old build. ;o

I know for a fact that the water didnt reach the CPU. The RAM looks ok as well but im gonna try calling in to see if the warrenty will cover a replacement. With that in mind I still have $1500 to mess around with for an early upgrade. :P

Also I'm not much of a fan of that case you picked out.
It doesn't matter. Use your brain Wing. You're buying anywhere from 800-1500$ worth of parts, do you really want to gamble overvolting something on the chance a piece may or may not be bad? I would not let ANY component in the old build touch the new one, but its your money and I can't really tell you what to do. Just that if you don't listen I must assume you are for lack of a better word, stupid. :-_-:




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May 3 2013, 9:38 pm Wing Zero Post #8

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lIt doesn't matter. Use your brain Wing. You're buying anywhere from 800-1500$ worth of parts, do you really want to gamble overvolting something on the chance a piece may or may not be bad? I would not let ANY component in the old build touch the new one, but its your money and I can't really tell you what to do. Just that if you don't listen I must assume you are for lack of a better word, stupid. :-_-:

I'm sending the CPU in for an RMA, so it is covered. I would rather use the money to upgrade the rest of the PC.




May 3 2013, 11:05 pm Excalibur Post #9

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Alright well since as I recall its an 1155 socket as well just drop it in this build and call it done.




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May 4 2013, 1:01 am NudeRaider Post #10

We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch

possible improvements:
SSD: Samsung 840 Basic 250 GB. Not only has it double sequential write speed over the 120GB variant but also 12% higher IOPS and, obviously, double capacity and you can easily afford it.
Actually I think the 830 256GB would be a better choice since they use the same fast chips the 840 Pros use but are obviously cheaper.

Additional stuff:
BluRay drive: Get the best out of your Full HD TFT. DVD quality isn't as good as we once thought.
2nd/3rd monitor. Having more desktop space is always nice. Or browse SEN while waiting for the LoL game to start. ;)
WLAN adapter. For those LAN parties where you forgot a cable.
USB thumb drive OR eSATA SSD: Get a nice and fast USB 3.0 64GB stick OR a eSATA 64GB SSD. Bring your favorite movies over to your friend's house and make copying them a breeze etc.
3D glasses. I personally dislike them, but hey, you got money to spend. :P
A high quality printer.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on May 4 2013, 1:17 am by NudeRaider.




May 4 2013, 1:26 am Wing Zero Post #11

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Quote from NudeRaider
possible improvements:
SSD: Samsung 840 Basic 250 GB. Not only has it double sequential write speed over the 120GB variant but also 12% higher IOPS and, obviously, double capacity and you can easily afford it.
Actually I think the 830 256GB would be a better choice since they use the same fast chips the 840 Pros use but are obviously cheaper.

That sounds nice, I'll look into it.

Also, EX, when I look for the mobo in pc part picker I can't find it unless I turn off that compatibility filter. Is there a reason it does that and is it going to be an issue?





May 4 2013, 4:57 am rockz Post #12

ᴄʜᴇᴇsᴇ ɪᴛ!

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please get this over that overpriced 7950

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this case any better on you?

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If you miss it:
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and code "APR15PSU" (ends 5/5) for a $95. promo doesn't combo like usual, so no cheesing there, otherwise you could take an extra chunk out of a $268 7950 in a combo.

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May 4 2013, 10:35 am Lanthanide Post #13



Not sure why you'd be able to send the CPU on an RMA, since if it is faulty it is because of the water damage, not because of manufacturing defect. Unless you're just lying. In which case you're ripping them off and making everyone have to pay more for their CPUs to cover your fraud.

If you weren't able to replace the CPU, it'd still be worth trying in the new mobo if it was compatible, because a faulty CPU will usually show itself very quickly, what with them doing millions of operations every single second. Just leave it running 24 hours on a burn-in test like prime 95 or whatever is in vogue these days and that'd be a sufficient test.



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May 4 2013, 6:47 pm Wing Zero Post #14

Magic box god; Suck it Corbo

Quote from Lanthanide
Not sure why you'd be able to send the CPU on an RMA, since if it is faulty it is because of the water damage, not because of manufacturing defect. Unless you're just lying. In which case you're ripping them off and making everyone have to pay more for their CPUs to cover your fraud.

I had a warrenty on it. I told them about the water damage and that I had no way to test it. I'm pretty much calling in everything I have a warrenty on to see if I can get replacements.




May 5 2013, 2:18 pm Moose Post #15

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Quote from Wing Zero
Quote from Lanthanide
Not sure why you'd be able to send the CPU on an RMA, since if it is faulty it is because of the water damage, not because of manufacturing defect. Unless you're just lying. In which case you're ripping them off and making everyone have to pay more for their CPUs to cover your fraud.

I had a warrenty on it. I told them about the water damage and that I had no way to test it. I'm pretty much calling in everything I have a warrenty on to see if I can get replacements.
You had insurance in the first post, but a warranty in the above post. The difference is important because the parts didn't get damaged through normal usage, being defective, or poor workmanship. (unless they were supposed to be waterproof or water-resistant?) It's not their fault at all that your computer suffered from water damage. Ergo, if you are trying to cover the damages under a warranty, then you are making (or trying to make) companies pay for your stuff even though nothing that happened is their fault, by extension driving up prices for responsible consumers. If you are covered under insurance or a service contract, then sure do whatever you want. :P




May 5 2013, 5:19 pm Azrael Post #16



Product pricing already takes expected warranty costs into account, and that pricing isn't going to change regardless of what he does. Sure, if literally everyone stopped utilizing their warranties, then the expected costs would drop, and maybe the product's price would follow. Technically, he'd be contributing to the cause of the already increased pricing. Realistically, his actions are an insignificant drop of water in the ocean, having no effect on anything.

He just suffered thousands of dollars in flood damage. If he can get some money back through the warranty, then he should do so.




May 6 2013, 11:01 am rockz Post #17

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Moose's point is that nothing should be covered under warranty. If they decide to replace it under warranty, then he's cheating the system. However, sending back those questionable materials is probably a good thing as there's nothing wrong with some of them. and they can be refurbished.



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May 6 2013, 1:10 pm Moose Post #18

We live in a society.

Quote from rockz
Moose's point is that nothing should be covered under warranty. If they decide to replace it under warranty, then he's cheating the system.
I shouldn't be given the credit for Lanthanide's point, which I hope I clarified correctly while noting an inconsistency. It also really depends on the tems of these warranties because some of them really are "no questions asked". We shouldn't pretend like we know what these warranties say and assume good faith on Wing Zero's part since he did mention that he even told them about the water damage on his CPU at least.

It is wrong for someone to make the companies responsible for the damage they didn't cause, but I suppose enough people do it that no individual snowflake feels responsible for the avalanche. (I'm not going to act like I would do better if I were in this situation.) Perhaps the system is more fair with everyone paying for hidden insurance through the costs because otherwise you would have to pay a bunch of people to determine the legitimacy of warranty coverage. Anyway, I'm becoming disruptive to the actual topic at this point, so best of luck on building the new PC, Wing Zero.

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on May 6 2013, 1:20 pm by Mini Moose 2707.




May 6 2013, 1:46 pm Wing Zero Post #19

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Quote from Mini Moose 2707
You had insurance in the first post, but a warranty in the above post. The difference is important because the parts didn't get damaged through normal usage, being defective, or poor workmanship. (unless they were supposed to be waterproof or water-resistant?) It's not their fault at all that your computer suffered from water damage.

I feel like I wasn't as clear as I could have been. I had insurance for the basement with a limit of $10,000. The damage was about 14-15k so we did max out the insurance but we still fell short.

As for the warrenty, I would just call and tell the truth about what happened and depending on the company I would get mixed results. Intel actually took a little convincing, but I told them I had no way to test if it was functional or not so they agreed to take a look at it.





May 6 2013, 6:35 pm Excalibur Post #20

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As long as Wing was honest with the companies about what happened I see no problem. I think some of us might have been under the impression that he was less than forthcoming about the circumstances.




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