(4)Turtle Land


(4)Circular Ruins

http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=2451

Any comments welcome

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Aug 30 2007, 6:06 pm by devilesk.

circular ruins looks really good. id play it

problem with second one is that its extremely easy for a terran to turtle. there is a back expo and a front expo for every main.

1st one is kinda bland and the top and bottom islands are imbalanced, top is more vulnerable to drops.

2nd one is just LT with a interior natural instead of islands. Get more creative!

1st one's kinda ugly, no offense

Not to mention a Terran wet dream. Tanks on the main will murder ANYTHING on the ground. Especially since they don't even need to go outside their safety zone to expo.

All I can see from it is mass carriers TvP or mass muta/guard TvZ.

I'm surprised that you've made both maps. Improvement much?

The first one has inherently flawed game design, which I don't think I need to get into. Free expo, pretty much, easy ramp choke for T, no flanking area so T>P>Z, islands....>.>;; Out of proportion, etc etc.

Second map looks like it was implemented well, but seems to have too much money. As people have already noted, the expo behind the main is easy to secure by any race, but it benefits T and P more than Z.

The middle expos seem to be the only things that people would even fight over, and as such, I would say to add gas since a Z would definitely need 3 gas to counter a T with 3 bases...

Then again, gas in every mid expansion would make money WAAAAAAAAY too abundant, and, well...

I don't know. If you take them out, it's turtle-riffic, but even if you leave them in, I dunno how the relative tightness will play out in game.

I like the map though, just dunno how I'd "fix" the "problem", if you can call one.

I actually made Circular Ruins first

Would it help if I made the expo in the back of each main some kind of island or have some kind of mineral block?

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Aug 29 2007, 10:00 pm by devilesk.

its fine. its only 2 gasses

Tanks + dropship > all expos on Circular Ruins. Make those cliffs undroppable.

Okay, I've made some changes. Thanks for the comments and keep them coming.

large mains = drop pwnage

edit: wait, i think i was being retarded.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 31 2007, 3:11 am by someone09.

Would you mind describing where I should shave off parts of the mains or making some edits to the picture in paint?

I'm thinking to make it smaller I would just break up the highlands more with dirt extending it from where it already is.

I have also submitted it to bwmn.
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=2451

Post has been edited 2 time(s), last time on Aug 30 2007, 6:06 pm by devilesk.

well the mains are too big, that's basically it

edit: wait, i think i was being retarded.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 31 2007, 3:11 am by someone09.

More changes based on comments at bmwn:

I believe your resource useage is adequate.

Another update:
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/(4)circular%20ruins(n)[1].jpg" style="max-width:500px; max-height:500px;" onclick="javascript:show_image(183883011)" id="image_clickable_183883011" class="image_clickable">
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/(4)Circular%20Ruins(n).scm

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Sep 2 2007, 12:24 am by devilesk.

what is bwmn? and very nice map, tres bien!

This is bwmn: http://www.panschk.de/mappage/newsscript/viewnews.php

<sub>Yeah, those maps are fine, if you want to make the same old map thats been made a thousand times already.

/thumbsdown</sub>