Uh, anything that modifies your attack in a certain way. I'm pretty sure all things under "Morph Attack" are orb effects, and this includes lifesteal. It's basically special effects added onto your attack, it's more of a problem/issue in DotA than in HoN. The term is just ported over from DotA basically.

Also do not get them confused with the term exclusive modifier.

I believe in Dota, orb effects did not stack, such as you couldnt have mana burn and lifesteal at the same time.

In HON they can, but exclusive modifiers not not stack, nor do attack modifiers.

It's pretty complicated, i read about a lot of the stuff on the HON wiki. hon wiki

Why don't you ever try to carry tree Shredder? Elder Parasite + Charged Hammer + Runed Axe is all kinds of win!

You can only have one Orb effect on at a time. Something like Frostwolf's Skull, Shieldbreaker, or Slither's attack are all considered "orbs" or "attack modifiers." When you have one or more of these, they appear above your minimap. You can select which one to use by clicking on it.

What... what... No, you can have as many orbs as you want, as long as they aren't exclusive. I can use web + shield breaker + life leech + thunder claw at the same time.

lol ultimo, last game as tree playing support i went 8/8/29 lol 8 kills with tree is lulzy for me.

It's also usually because we need support and it's either ultimo as ds or me as tree...

On another note: i can also carry with magebane quite well now apparently.

I only had 2 kills before the 30 minute mark and was 2-2, but i got a brutalizer, and well, the kills began rolling in. It's not quite as beast as an ip arach, but my teammates sucked hard, and basically i wound up holding off malik and pest every time they pushed by myself. Behe was a joke, as was ophe, who never lvled command before she maxed her other two, and used it like, twice the whole game, to farm neuts.... 4 times, disciple ran solo against their whole team and died, and then proceeded to call me a noob over all chat about 4 times. Their malik got really fed and owned our team. One teamfight was lulzy because i stood there ans attacked malik in his demon form, while he chased my entire team, who didnt seem to realize there was a maliken behind them, to which he got a triple kill.

Funny moment in that game as well, elec got a double kill, while ksing me both times lol.
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This is actually a change from dota. In dota and hon, there are attack modifiers and exclusive modifiers. In dota, exclusives, did not stack. I hon, they do. However, they do not stack with modifiers of the same type, so you can't have 2 lifesteals that stack, but you can have lifesteal and manaburn and slow and bash all at the same time, which you couldnt in dota.

iso, for you, in order, those are classified as a spell, an attack modifier, an exclusive modifier, and another exclusive modifier of a different kind. I always call exclusive modifiers orbs, which is why i was confused about this, but an orb is, in hon, an attack modifier.

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I need to start playing this more. I never have enough time, and when I do I'm like "ahh too much work to play hon!"

Web, thunder claw, and life leech aren't considered orbs in Hon.

You can't have Shieldbreaker and Frostwolf's active at the same time, for example.

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I already explained all this. There are technically only two orb items in hon. Accursed sear, slither's venom, magmus' volcanic touch, and booboo's tangle are the only things that you have to choose between. All other exclusive modifiers stack with exclusive modifiers of different types, but not with modifiers of the same type.

So lifesteals dont stack, but manaburn stacks with lifesteal.

Someone tell me if the shieldbreaker effect is supposed to work on Booboo, I thought it was supposed to?

according to the hon wiki, it shouldnt stack with his Entangle.

That's just lame, I don't even know why that guy got a shieldbreaker on his Booboo in this competitive match I played, I guess for the +60 damage?

or he already had a bash on the booboo (i dunno, i havent seen the match) so he didnt need the entangle and instead went for a bash and SHIELDBREAKER build.

If not, he's just dumb.

And if you're wondering why shieldbreaker is in caps is because i accidentally hit my caps lock and was too lazy to change it.

http://www.fileplay.net/file/7050/heroes-of-newerth-whp-scrim

The best game I've seen in a while. Interesting picks, great players (WHP was pro in DotA), a pretty close game, and of course the music makes this a lot of fun to watch. Highly recommended. =)

I loved that magebane's juking skills against the bloodhunter. It was so funny.

I loved that quad kill with magebane ult, so epic. The AoE on that thing was huge, Ophelia was really raping that game too.

I think he only got 3 with his ult, one before and one after. But yeah, the aoe based on the TARGET is something a lot of people don't realize and it can be ridiculous on an int hero like Defiler who spams too much. =D

maliken is amazing carry.

i dont think turret should get evasion from wingbow. it took me 8 hits to kill it and by then i was already like 10% hp and i teleported to the turret so i wouldnt have to run up to it, also i was maliken so i got a big boost in attack speed, but any other melee hero with no attack speed boost wouldve gotten raped