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Sep 28 2009, 7:56 pm Bar Refaeli Post #221



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Soul Steal

Strangles the soul of a target enemy unit and extracts bits and pieces of it.
Lasts 8 seconds.

Level 1 - Absorbs 20 hit points per second.
Level 2 - Absorbs 40 hit points per second.
Level 3 - Absorbs 60 hit points per second.
Level 4 - Absorbs 80 hit points per second.

Cooldown: 12 seconds.
i never played DotA but i was lookin at the Dota heroes, and this kinda stood out to me. this sounds really rigged. 640 damage total over 8 seconds? and you recover 640 hp, too? and its cooldown is technically only 4 seconds?
can someone explain this to me cause it sounds rigged if it were to be in HoN.

is it rigged in DotA?

Also, i just called the totem transfigure cause i didnt know its name, and transfigure is its power. also i wasnt in that game where hydro left. ive played one game with SEN b4 and that was a while ago.

EDIT:
Quote from name:Life">http://web.dota-allstars.com/heroes]Life Drain

Pugna summons a very powerful draining magic that absorbs the life essence of an enemy unit.
Lasts 9 seconds.

Level 1 - 95 hit point drain per second.
Level 2 - 140 hit point drain per second.
Level 3 - 185 hit point drain per second.

Cooldown: 22
this also sounds rigged. 185dps with 22 cooldown? someone please explain

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Sep 28 2009, 8:02 pm by Raccoon.



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Sep 28 2009, 9:05 pm Thuy Post #222



Not rigged at all! Both of these are channeling spells so all you gotta do is get out of range, stun, or silence them.
80 dps is nothing mid/late game since you can do way more damage than 80 dps. (soul steal)

Yes pugna skill is kinda cheap (life drain) especially when you get the scepter ( staff of master) it becomes 250 life per second and the ult has 0 cd :D
Only thing stopping you is low mana!



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Sep 28 2009, 9:27 pm Neki Post #223



Like Thuy said, they're channeling skills, meaning that if you break range it will also break the spell. The first one is useful early game for regen and harassing when you can, but like Thuy said, 80 dps lategame is nothing. Pugna is also pretty good, but in a team battle, one stun will interrupt your channeling and make it useless. A good combination is decripify + lifedrain which is just epic win.



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Sep 28 2009, 10:32 pm Bar Refaeli Post #224



i hope theres a HoN Night Stalker



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Sep 28 2009, 10:41 pm Lingie Post #225



I hope HoN starts making their OWN heroes. This ain't DotA anymore.



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Sep 28 2009, 11:11 pm Neki Post #226



I hope DotA ports over Hammerstorm, he's so ORIGINAL. Also, pubs suck, so much complaining and suckyness.



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Sep 28 2009, 11:29 pm l)ark_ssj9kevin Post #227

Just here for the activity... well not really

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That's what happened. And that's why not only am I done with their community, but I'm giving a heads up to ours: A lot of you guys are fun to play with, but some of you are pure assholes who have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. You give bad advice, use bad builds, and generally make some of our bad players worse, and I'm done letting you. I'm imposing the same rule I imposed over in the Melee section:
If you don't know what you're talking about, don't open your mouth. No advice is better than bad advice.
Oh Ex, I hate it when you prophesize SEN.



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Sep 28 2009, 11:31 pm Excalibur Post #228

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That's what happened. And that's why not only am I done with their community, but I'm giving a heads up to ours: A lot of you guys are fun to play with, but some of you are pure assholes who have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. You give bad advice, use bad builds, and generally make some of our bad players worse, and I'm done letting you. I'm imposing the same rule I imposed over in the Melee section:
If you don't know what you're talking about, don't open your mouth. No advice is better than bad advice.
Oh Ex, I hate it when you prophesize SEN.
Lrn2Play then you can talk Kevin.




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Sep 28 2009, 11:37 pm Phobos Post #229

Are you sure about that?

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Quote from Excalibur
That's what happened. And that's why not only am I done with their community, but I'm giving a heads up to ours: A lot of you guys are fun to play with, but some of you are pure assholes who have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. You give bad advice, use bad builds, and generally make some of our bad players worse, and I'm done letting you. I'm imposing the same rule I imposed over in the Melee section:
If you don't know what you're talking about, don't open your mouth. No advice is better than bad advice.
Oh Ex, I hate it when you prophesize SEN.
Lrn2Play then you can talk Kevin.
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Sep 29 2009, 12:13 am rockz Post #230

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Had we had hydro there's no way we would have lost.

While I understand Hon is based on dota, I wish they would have either A: kept names/items very similar, or B: make a completely new game. For example Vanguard is a shield in dota, but in Hon it's Helm of the Black Legion. They really should have just kept it as a shield, and probably should have just kept its name "Vanguard". I suppose they have problems with the whole copyright business, but we all know they're just going to release hon as freeware in two years anyway.



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Sep 29 2009, 1:32 am ForTheSwarm Post #231



Soul Reaper's ult only does pure damage when he has a Staff of the Master. Otherwise, it does magic damage like it's supposed to.



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Sep 29 2009, 1:34 am Neki Post #232



Quote from ForTheSwarm
Soul Reaper's ult only does pure damage when he has a Staff of the Master. Otherwise, it does magic damage like it's supposed to.
Really? Do you have a source for this? This makes Staff of the Master actually viable on him, increasing his damage even more. o_O



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Sep 29 2009, 2:31 am Thuy Post #233



Why wouldn't you want staff of master on him! It increases it from .9 to 1.1 damage for every missing health!



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Sep 29 2009, 2:50 am Neki Post #234



I like building him as a pseudo-carry who runs into the middle of the battle, causing chaos. I guess I would get it after my core items of Mock, Post Haste, Barrier Idol(depends), Shiva's Guard, Heart. With death pulses, his aura, ice blast and magic sparkles doing damage, I'm doing massive AoE damage. Though Staff of the Master would make a good luxury item too I guess.



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Sep 29 2009, 3:05 am ShredderIV Post #235



it was really fun before they changed behemoth's heart, to attack a str tank with him and completely null the hp regen he was getting.



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Sep 29 2009, 3:28 am Decency Post #236



Quote from ForTheSwarm
Soul Reaper's ult only does pure damage when he has a Staff of the Master. Otherwise, it does magic damage like it's supposed to.
It's not supposed to ever do pure damage... Idejder has already fixed it internally.



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Sep 29 2009, 5:34 am ShredderIV Post #237



btw, playing as chronos and rewinding soul reaper's ult is the best feeling ever XD



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Sep 29 2009, 5:41 am Neki Post #238



You know what's not awesome? People putting item drop in a game without telling anyone. Makes everybody rage and leave, it's a good time really. I guess it's my bad for not looking carefully, but it's still a stupid thing to do.



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Sep 29 2009, 5:49 am ShredderIV Post #239



you know what else IS (and not isn't like in ultimo's post right before me) fun? going 10-1-10 with soul reaper... seriously though, i think he needs to be nerfed, even though i play as him a lot.

Also, demented shaman... yeah... he's actually a lot better than i remember, especially as a support. And micro skills can actually help with him, especially if you storm, shield urself, then slow them, kite them, and heal if u get too hurt. Killed TB three times that way.

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Sep 29 2009, 9:08 am Alzarath Post #240

Praetor

Did they port over the Dark templar?



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