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Temple Siege v1.6
Feb 12 2009, 6:20 am
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Aug 26 2009, 12:01 pm OlimarandLouie Post #1001



Because of StarEdit's suckiness, No, there is not.



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Aug 26 2009, 5:40 pm lil-Inferno Post #1002

Just here for the pie

Quote from OlimarandLouie
Because of StarEdit's suckiness, No, there is not.
Actually yes, you probably just lack the mapmaking knowledge to know so. Just have lockdown cost energy and then all other Ghost units have their energy down to zero all the time, except for Kerrigan. Of course, this will interfere with other spells. I'm not a big fan of Temple Siege so I wouldn't know if cloak ever comes into play.




Aug 26 2009, 5:49 pm FlashBeer Post #1003



Lockdown would be way too OP. Lockdown would freeze a player up so long, that any of your teammates could come in for a kill.
Lockdown + disable = sitting target, GG
Not to mention the Phantom is giving up cloak.



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Aug 26 2009, 9:43 pm Moose Post #1004

We live in a society.

Who cares if Mech gets locked down?
Change form and move again. (unless we make Lockdown really cheap that it can be shot 3x)

Good luck to Dropship. Guess that finally gets a better counter in Medic,




Aug 26 2009, 9:52 pm FlashBeer Post #1005



Then what about psion? Also, Mech can't transform if disabled.



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Aug 26 2009, 10:41 pm Jack Post #1006

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

Can locked units be recalled by arbiter?



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"In short, their absurdities are so extreme that it is painful even to quote them."

Aug 26 2009, 11:17 pm ClansAreForGays Post #1007



yes




Aug 26 2009, 11:36 pm FlashBeer Post #1008



Which would mean that Psion would have to grind away from medic until he gets L4— and Psion isn't the best grinder.



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Aug 26 2009, 11:56 pm DrakeClawfang Post #1009



Let's be realistic, what can Lockdown hit?

Dropship - maybe OP, maybe not, my views on the D-ship are skewed.
Psion - recall or spells
Mech - just transform
SCV - a total waste of the spell

And there's a handful of spawn units it can effect, but those would be a waste too. So really, Lockdown is only good for three units, that's an awfully small niche.

EDIT - Also, I have another question. Concerning the Archer and Firebat's various constructing units...

Drones - Level 2 spell, 2 cost 50 gas. Can build two buildings, if you have creep.
SCV - Level 3 spell, 1 costs 80 gass. Can build infinite buildings anywhere.

Just as a point of comparison, I find it odd that the Archer has to keep paying 50 bucks to build two buildings, on top of their construction cost, while for 80 gas the Firebat gets a SCV that lets him build all he wants. And the Drones have the restriction of Creep that the SCV doesn't.



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Aug 27 2009, 4:00 am killer_sss Post #1010



the lock down would just be annoying. It allows medic to cripple players that should normally kick it's ass and removes cloak from the phantom which if a slight cooldown effect is added to spell to will hurt him even more.

as for the comparison for drones and scvs. They both have costs the scv pays mana also and there is a max of one meaning he can only build so fast. There is also a cap on units he can control and his other buildings are pretty weak.

The nydus alone gives the archer an ability to traverse the map as it is. Yes it costs a bunch but there is a reason. You can't have a player overkilling things. This is also why the refineries cost minerals instead of gas. Free cash because you have a bat? i don't think so.

yes it seems unfair but it really isn't. They build at about same speed and mid game the archer can pump out more than the scv can. Still would be neat to do something with extractors imo though :)



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Aug 27 2009, 4:54 am DrakeClawfang Post #1011



Quote from killer_sss
the lock down would just be annoying. It allows medic to cripple players that should normally kick it's ass and removes cloak from the phantom which if a slight cooldown effect is added to spell to will hurt him even more.

as for the comparison for drones and scvs. They both have costs the scv pays mana also and there is a max of one meaning he can only build so fast. There is also a cap on units he can control and his other buildings are pretty weak.

The nydus alone gives the archer an ability to traverse the map as it is. Yes it costs a bunch but there is a reason. You can't have a player overkilling things. This is also why the refineries cost minerals instead of gas. Free cash because you have a bat? i don't think so.

yes it seems unfair but it really isn't. They build at about same speed and mid game the archer can pump out more than the scv can. Still would be neat to do something with extractors imo though :)

Maybe make them cheaper than normal Refineries but easier to kill with less HP? Since it's the Archer, you could call it "Wooden Refinery".



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Aug 27 2009, 5:15 am FlashBeer Post #1012



If Archer would have extractors, then they should be more distinguishable, rather than just cheaper. Instead of giving cash, it gives mana. It could slowly give mana to all teammates, or take the place of mana pool, and give a quick dose of 50 mana to allies that approach it (w/ cooldown rate), or adds mana per additional spawn kills.



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Aug 27 2009, 11:18 am OlimarandLouie Post #1013



Flashbeer,
Now THAT, is a good idea! :lol:



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Aug 27 2009, 6:15 pm DrakeClawfang Post #1014



Aye, that's cool. It also gives a new element of strategy as to what to build - more money, or more mana? Could lead to a lot of good team strategies, like say, Archer-Light Mage-Phantom, etc.



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Aug 28 2009, 12:57 am killer_sss Post #1015



doesn't sound too bad at all.

now the next task is to convince unholy to consider it lol. I bet he will say no because it doesn't fit the archer theme/role.



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Aug 28 2009, 1:22 am Norm Post #1016



Quote from FlashBeer
If Archer would have extractors, then they should be more distinguishable, rather than just cheaper. Instead of giving cash, it gives mana. It could slowly give mana to all teammates, or take the place of mana pool, and give a quick dose of 50 mana to allies that approach it (w/ cooldown rate), or adds mana per additional spawn kills.

This is a genius idea.



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Aug 28 2009, 3:28 am DrakeClawfang Post #1017



Quote from killer_sss
doesn't sound too bad at all.

now the next task is to convince unholy to consider it lol. I bet he will say no because it doesn't fit the archer theme/role.

Well, part of the Archer's theme is it's camp building. What if the Assimilators either needed to be in range of a camp, or augmented a camp somehow?



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Aug 28 2009, 3:44 am Jack Post #1018

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

Say hello to a 0 mana ups summoner!



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"In short, their absurdities are so extreme that it is painful even to quote them."

Aug 28 2009, 4:35 am DrakeClawfang Post #1019



One more stupid idea. What if the Marine and Archer both had another building they could build that produced spawn like so many probe-made buildings do? The spawn born would fit their respective themes, of course.



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Aug 28 2009, 7:14 am ladyalanah Post #1020



marine can't build anymore because his scv was given to firebat. but it would help the engi a great deal if he could load his bunkers with marine spawn since a lone firebat in a bunker is kinda useless.



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Oh_Man -- whereas just "press X to get 50 health back" is pretty mindless
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Oh_Man -- because it adds anotherr level of player decision-making where u dont wanna walk too far away from the medic or u lose healing value
[05:01 am]
Oh_Man -- initially I thought it was weird why is he still using the basic pre-EUD medic healing system, but it's actually genius
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Ultraviolet -- Vrael
Vrael shouted: I almost had a heart attack just thinking about calculating all the offsets it would take to do that kind of stuff
With the modern EUD editors, I don't think they're calculating nearly as many offsets as you might imagine. Still some fancy ass work that I'm sure took a ton of effort
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Oh_Man -- definitely EUD
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Vrael -- I almost had a heart attack just thinking about calculating all the offsets it would take to do that kind of stuff
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Vrael -- that is insane
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Vrael -- damn is that all EUD effects?
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