It wasn't rude, just pointless, and kind of annoying.
My bad. Well, I re-read the thread and I was just wondering what your stand is on the matter.
Mind sharing? with me at least?
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Wasn't this the thread where I just started agreeing with Will and PwnPirate got mad at me? They all started overlapping and mixing together, so I don't really remember. In any case, I don't like Bush. I'm not overly educated on the details of the matter, but in general, I think pulling out of Iraq would make the most sense.
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Wasn't this the thread where I just started agreeing with Will and PwnPirate got mad at me? They all started overlapping and mixing together, so I don't really remember. In any case, I don't like Bush. I'm not overly educated on the details of the matter, but in general, I think pulling out of Iraq would make the most sense.
Ok makes sense. I'm no politician either, but I think now the smartest move is to slowly(or quickly now that bush let so much time lapse) exchange our military men with their military men, like we did in Vietnam or south Korea(i think
). What do you think about bushes nonmilitary decisions? like regular tax and law enforcement stuff?
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What do you think about bushes nonmilitary decisions? like regular tax and law enforcement stuff?
I haven't studied it personally, but from everything I hear he sucks at it. Caused an epic national debt, and basically changed the rules of the constitution to suit his purposes at least once. I would call that bad.
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I haven't studied it personally, but from everything I hear he sucks at it. Caused an epic national debt, and basically changed the rules of the constitution to suit his purposes at least once. I would call that bad.
Oh I didn't know that, but I did know that our nation was already deeply in debt when bush was elected(courtesy of previous presidents racking up the national bill
). Has he greatly increased our debt from going to war? And does anyone happen to know the current national debt?
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Before bush took office we were actually paying back the national debt, which was about 5.7 trillion dollars generated over 3 decades. The current Debt is over 9 trillion dollars.
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Bushes second best career choice: Beggar
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Before bush took office we were actually paying back the national debt, which was about 5.7 trillion dollars generated over 3 decades. The current Debt is over 9 trillion dollars.
Ouch..... Well tanks and guns don't buy themselves I guess... I wish there was a bright side to staying in Iraq...
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Before bush took office we were actually paying back the national debt, which was about 5.7 trillion dollars generated over 3 decades. The current Debt is over 9 trillion dollars.
Ouch..... Well tanks and guns don't buy themselves I guess... I wish there was a bright side to staying in Iraq...
Considering we nerfed the organized military in iraq in under 3 weeks, I do not think that is a valid point. no number of tanks or guns can help us defeat IEDs and insurgents that look like civilians. We need to get out of Iraq sooner rather than later, leave all the coke machines and office desks, only be concerned with combat and military communication hardware. The sooner we leave, the sooner the situation stabilizes(at least down to a few strong men, who can be controlled economically.)
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[quote=AntiSleep]Considering we nerfed the organized military in iraq in under 3 weeks, I do not think that is a valid point. no number of tanks or guns can help us defeat IEDs and insurgents that look like civilians. We need to get out of Iraq sooner rather than later...quote]
Sooner rather than later would have been 8 months ago... Anyone know the casualties stats?
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No, the official figures are basically propaganda, deaths that directly result injuries sustained in Iraq are only counted as Iraq war casualties if the soldier dies in Iraq(or within 24 hours of leaving). The actual figure is somewhere around 15-20 thousand.
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No, the official figures are basically propaganda, deaths that directly result injuries sustained in Iraq are only counted as Iraq war casualties if the soldier dies in Iraq(or within 24 hours of leaving). The actual figure is somewhere around 15-20 thousand.
Wow... Another bad statistic for bush's name...
Well I remember when people were complaining with 1000 deaths, what are people doing now? Charging the White House?
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Parties in government do not work. George Washington was the only intelligent president. EVER!
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Twenty-thousand casualties? I really don't believe that. I think the count is under 3,500 or around there. Do you know how insanely high 20,000 is, who told you that? I calculate thats about 13% of all American troops in the area. 20K? Not likely.
I heard it from a soldier that was part of the medic evac chain.
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Parties in government do not work. George Washington was the only intelligent president. EVER!
George Washington was a general, not a politician.
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medical evacuation, the people that transport the wounded soldiers from the battlefield to the hospitals(generally a hospital in a nearby country)
And i do think political parties are a bad idea, unless your goal is to limit and maintain power.
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EDIT: Man, I've been gone for weeks and the Multi-quote button STILL isn't fixed?
Wtf?
I never saw those research topics let me know when you want to edit a post or something so we don't end up looking foolish!
Well, I'm sorry that I have something called a LIFE, and that it takes over sometimes. And I'm also sorry that I don't like to waste my time with 15 year olds who just listen to mommy and daddy's opinions, and have no mind of their own. Even if I was to go through and take my time to explain everything, you're too arrogent to acknowledge that I may have a valid and plausible discussion.
Uh oh, Ad Hominem Abusive.
My bad.
I would go through and get all my sources (Which I was doing before SeN had one of its retarded moments and said that I had no text in the text box) but its honestly a waste of my time. I have much more important things to do than sit and bicker with an arrogent, and egotistical 15 year old (i'm only saying you're 15 cause you told everyone you graduate in 2010) Quote from MillenniumArmy
I've been thinking this for a while but...
when people are citing your sources, do they even know what those people are talking about in those "sources." Like do they even understand what they are talking about? Seems to me that when people see that a source has a whole bunch of pretty numbers, charts, pictures, or sophisticated words that they think it is concrete proof of whatever they are arguing for or against. Seriously, IMO i believe that in order for someone to properly provide proof or sources for their arguments, they have to first understand what their subject is. If the person responsible for your source has a phD in a certain degree, say a degree in structural engineering, then you've got to first understand what structural engineering. Merely using your highschool or even undergrad college info on such topics aint enough; otherwise there would be no need for such education. Such knowledge is required because then you can verify that such a source is credible or accurate. How do you know they are using the right formulas, data, or w/e? Just because their titles have "Ph Ds or Masters Degrees" doesn't mean everything they say can automatically be assumed to be correct with no revision or questioning. Basically you're putting blind faith into these sources not realizing that they can be misleading or inaccurate. Ok, but if you truly insist that you attain such knowledge to know what these sources, particularly those on such highly sophisticated issues, then that's great; you must be like the next albert einstein or something, especially if you are only in highschool and have already attained such knowledge which would take years and years of high leveled education for most people to attain. Reason I'm saying this is because in many threads, I've seen arguments where people just throw scores of sources and links at each other and the only rebuttles they can come up with is "Prove that my links are wrong! Show me something that is incorrect in my source!" which seems to be that these people do not really know their own sources really well, because if they did, they would be able to point out what's wrong with each other's sources.
Completely agree. Okay GuN, if you agree, why don't you actually do it from time too time?I actually understand what they are talking about, and I graduated highschool in 2004.
Its actually spelled high school, and I graduate in 2010.[/quote]
You do realise that by attacking someone's grammar, it shows how weak your debate skills are? Just a question..Starcraft is an old old game now, and a lot of people who has stuck to it for a long long time is old now.
Some people who has played it has jobs now, a wife, and kids. Thats probably beyond you MA.
I do have to agree some there MA. And instead of just citing resources, why not highlight the one you really need to see? And several other sources to compare.
Who are you?[/quote]
Someone that's going to be better than you ever will?
Lol, I keed I keed.
Not really though.Parties in government do not work. George Washington was the only intelligent president. EVER!
Because he, along with most of our first presidents, were fundamentalists?
To everyone who supports Bush: Exactly what "good" has he done for the country? I'd like to see reliable sources and statistics if possible.
Once you do that, I'll retort with sources against him
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It doesn't really matter. The 2008 Republican candidates are looking to be a pretty pathetic bunch of political push-overs.
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