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Alterntive To Wav?!?
Jun 28 2009, 1:14 pm
By: Tempz  

Jun 28 2009, 1:14 pm Tempz Post #1



For those who don't know what thundergraft is, it is a program that was being sold during 2006ish,
After research discovering that thundergraft is only given to certain people with a high quality project,
As well as the fact that thundergraft had numerous problems when there servers got hacked in 2002 (Unconfirmed)

Yes I can convert to WAV format...
but even with lowering everything to there lowest decimals, I can only get in maybe 5 minutes max.
Once I get a piece of music and convert it from a mp3 to wav it might become monstrously huge in size.

So I'm asking you are there any other alternatives to getting mp3's into a map?!?
(Preferably a plug-in like thunergraft) --> someone can make or get a home-brew ;)

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jun 28 2009, 1:24 pm by Tempz.



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Jun 28 2009, 1:27 pm Falkoner Post #2



Um... You don't need Thundergraft to convert mp3 to wav, and you also do not need it for compression, you can use Audacity, a freeware program, to convert from mp3, then use Windows Sound Recorder, on your computer, to compress it however you want. Usually the best compression for SC is 16 bit mono, and then the lower the frequency, the worse the quality, but smaller the size.

There's no way to put an MP3 in a map, SC is simply too old, you're going to have to conform to the limits of SC on this one.



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Jun 28 2009, 3:24 pm Tempz Post #3



Thats not what im asking XD...
I want it so i can put mp3 in a map...
but thanks for your input XD.

Quote from Tempz
For those who don't know what thundergraft is, it is a program that was being sold during 2006ish,
After research discovering that thundergraft is only given to certain people with a high quality project,
As well as the fact that thundergraft had numerous problems when there servers got hacked in 2002 (Unconfirmed)

Yes I can convert to WAV format...
but even with lowering everything to there lowest decimals, I can only get in maybe 5 minutes max.
Once I get a piece of music and convert it from a mp3 to wav it might become monstrously huge in size.

So I'm asking you are there any other alternatives to getting mp3's into a map?!?
(Preferably a plug-in like thunergraft) --> someone can make or get a home-brew ;)
But i can go with the limits of sc...
Even so I still wonder why thundergraft was never publicly released.



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Jun 28 2009, 5:13 pm ClansAreForGays Post #4



Don't assume we know what thundergraft is. In any case, there is no way this 'thundergraft' can put an actual mp3 file into a playable SC map.




Jun 28 2009, 6:15 pm Heinermann Post #5

SDE, BWAPI owner, hacker.

OK. So, nobody knows what thundergraft is.
But from the info I gathered, it appears to be some half-assed mp3/ogg plugin/mod that was never released.

Would that make this topic belong to the modding section? It will probably become a discussion of how to play MP3/OGG files.




Jun 28 2009, 7:42 pm rockz Post #6

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Quote from IskatuMesk
Thundergraft was developed by Quantam quite some time ago. It allows you to use both mp3 and ogg's in a mpqdraft mod. However to my knowledge it was never "released", instead given to trusted testers like myself. I cannot/will not redistribute it without Q's direct permission.
thundergraft

You HAVE to mod it to do this. Starcraft simply doesn't support mp3s or oggs. If it is possible in unmodded SC, I'm sure everyone would be using it by now.

If you want to have music, set it to be 8 kHz, 16 bit size. SC will compress it to ~45% of it's original size. That means you will have 16*8*.45 kbps = ~8kB/s. A 5 minute song would then take up 2 MB. It's pretty hefty for SC and sounds terrible. However, most lossy audio takes up 1 MB per minute at decent bitrates.

If you want it to be even smaller, you might even drop the frequency even further to 6 kHz or something.



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Jun 30 2009, 12:14 am Tempz Post #7



How do i drop it to 6hz?



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