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Darkfall
Nov 13 2008, 4:09 am
By: Joker47
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Nov 14 2008, 10:45 pm Joker47 Post #21



Quote from Corbo
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In the end I believe the gameplay will outweigh any graphical flaws.
I rather have nice graphics and a dull crappy game play than an awesome gameplay and poor graphics.

What I think is that the animations look too...dull or like if the character had troubles with moving... You can appreciate this specially when they are "thrown away" by some fireball. It's the same stupid sprite that just got randomly moved. The walking seems like they're stepping in the air and many more things.
I'd have to agree, though, that overall the graphics like nice and they have good texturings and modellings. They just have got to get better animations.
The game animations DO need fixing, while the animations are there they are far too robotic and not obvious enough to be seen more like twitches than actual movement. In this case I would argue better animations benefit gameplay because and you need animations to see the movement of your enemy and what they're trying to do against you (more in this game than in other MMO's due to the significant FPS influence).

That being said... In my experience with previous MMO's in beta the animations are often something that are worked on up to and through release. In fact sometimes that is one of the last things they put the final tweak on.

In the end, I do not believe the not-perfect-animations will be a deciding factor.

Also, when you're ingame, things tend to looks a lot different from that perspective.


I would like to point out that this game still has AMAZING graphics (not to be confused with animations), I don't want new readers to the thread to assume it is a shitty looking game, what we are now discussing now is minor details on animations that could have already been fixed.
proof: http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals

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All you kids who are saying 'graphics > gameplay' need to die in a fucking fire. You're killing the game industry and encouraging corporations like EA to roll carbon copy generic games by the truck load out of their studios. .
That is interesting, I recently watch this video by Yahtzee describing a perfect example of that in his review of Braid.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/203-Braid



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Nov 14 2008, 10:52 pm Fisty Post #22



Quote from Corbo
Just to be clear, I never said graphics > gameplay. I said I would rather have nice graphics than a good gameplay.

That's the same thing, your previous statement was your own opinion anyway.



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Nov 14 2008, 10:55 pm Corbo Post #23

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I would like to point out that this game still has AMAZING graphics (not to be confused with animations), I don't want new readers to the thread to assume it is a shitty looking game, what we are now discussing now is minor details on animations that could have already been fixed.
proof: http://www.darkfallonline.com/gallery/visuals
Yes, the landscaping, scenes, characters and buildings overall look great and make me wanna play it right now. Some of the objects, though need some pimping out. Like those ships and some weapons.
Also, at the models comment. If you'd ever ...disarm MMORPGs like I do, you'd realise that good modelling doesn't come in here cause you need stuff to be really low poly. This is when good texturing comes and rescues the game.

@At deathman, no, it's not. It means that I would sacrifice gameplay for graphics but that doesn't mean that overall a good graphical game is better than a good gameplay one. Neither that graphics > gameplay.



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Nov 14 2008, 11:10 pm chuiu Post #24



Quote from Corbo
Just to be clear, I never said graphics > gameplay. I said I would rather have nice graphics than a good gameplay.

Quote from chuiu
Music is all about sounds.
Art is all about appearances.
Games are all about gameplay.
Actually if you had non-wikipedia definitions of these first two you would know that music is not anywhere near to be all about sounds and neither is art all about appearance. Specially art, it is almost never about appearance.
Saying "I said I would rather have nice graphics than a good gameplay." is exactly like saying "Graphics > Gameplay". I'm sorry you can't see this, I'm sure you will realize how retarded you were in the future.

And its funny you rebut my games are all about gameplay argument by talking about the two things above it, just what I expected you to. Ignoring the truth doesn't make it go away.



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Nov 14 2008, 11:26 pm Corbo Post #25

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I just thought I had the right to correct you in the ones I do know rather than in gaming which I barely know. I'm not much of a gamer, you can go ahead and waste most of your time playing games and never grow up. But I just play them when I have time for fun... and to steal their textures.



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Nov 14 2008, 11:37 pm Joker47 Post #26



I edited the first post, but for anyone who doesn't re-read posts... here is this link to the video that first got me excited about this game, it will help you appreciate what is actually going on the in longer/more recent gameplay video and give a good overview of the major features.

High detail (1 minute download)

Need FLV compatible player

Youtube for lazy people




Nov 15 2008, 12:40 am Fisty Post #27



Quote from Joker47
I edited the first post, but for anyone who doesn't re-read posts... here is this link to the video that first got me excited about this game, it will help you appreciate what is actually going on the in longer/more recent gameplay video and give a good overview of the major features.

High detail (1 minute download)

Need FLV compatible player

Youtube for lazy people
Youtube WINS

Oh, even though I've mentioned this before, we ARE starting a SEN Alliance. I'm probably gonna go for a city building type after gaining enough money as one of the emo loners, although the Pirate for once is actually quite intriguing. I'd love to sweep in with a huge ass pirate ship and laugh maniacally at the fool who decided not to defend his ports.



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Nov 15 2008, 4:34 am ClansAreForGays Post #28



I applaud you for your honesty, but seriously Corbo WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!




Nov 15 2008, 4:46 am Riney Post #29

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Stealing textures isnt that bad >:D.



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Nov 15 2008, 5:06 am Phobos Post #30

Are you sure about that?

Quote from name:
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In the end I believe the gameplay will outweigh any graphical flaws.
I rather have nice graphics and a dull crappy game play than an awesome gameplay and poor graphics.


What I think is that the animations look too...dull or like if the character had troubles with moving... You can appreciate this specially when they are "thrown away" by some fireball. It's the same stupid sprite that just got randomly moved. The walking seems like they're stepping in the air and many more things.
I'd have to agree, though, that overall the graphics like nice and they have good texturings and modellings. They just have got to get better animations.
Corbo made a good call... An excelent call. And it's not about "Graphics". I just don't feel atracted to the gameplay... Don't missunderstand me, TES is a great game with a great leveling system, but... But I don't feel atracted to a massive multiplayer online game with a similar system, taking away leveling. Gosh, as Death said, I play damn Doom, and I mentioned more old games. There's just something about gameplay that I don't like in that game. That's it...



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Nov 15 2008, 5:17 am A_of-s_t Post #31

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Oh, even though I've mentioned this before, we ARE starting a SEN Alliance. I'm probably gonna go for a city building type after gaining enough money as one of the emo loners, although the Pirate for once is actually quite intriguing. I'd love to sweep in with a huge ass pirate ship and laugh maniacally at the fool who decided not to defend his ports.
I'll help you build our SEN kingdom!



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Nov 15 2008, 7:17 am Elvang Post #32



The SEN Dominion sounds better ;)



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Nov 15 2008, 8:29 am Riney Post #33

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SEN, largest mmo recruitment center based on a blizzard game unoffical site.



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Nov 15 2008, 11:37 am Fisty Post #34



Quote from name:
Quote from name:Deathman101
Oh, even though I've mentioned this before, we ARE starting a SEN Alliance. I'm probably gonna go for a city building type after gaining enough money as one of the emo loners, although the Pirate for once is actually quite intriguing. I'd love to sweep in with a huge ass pirate ship and laugh maniacally at the fool who decided not to defend his ports.
I'll help you build our SEN kingdom!
Yay!

Quote from name:
The SEN Dominion sounds better ;)
Hmmmm, you're actually right, although for the sake of recruiting actual players, the SEN part may get thrown out.

The Dominion!



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Nov 16 2008, 4:28 am Doodle77 Post #35



Quote from Elvang
The SEN Dominion sounds better ;)
Or we could go for maximum reduncancy! The SEN Network!



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Nov 17 2008, 4:33 am ClansAreForGays Post #36



Quote from Doodle77
Quote from Elvang
The SEN Dominion sounds better ;)
Or we could go for maximum reduncancy! The SEN Network!
This.




Nov 17 2008, 5:20 am Corbo Post #37

ALL PRAISE YOUR SUPREME LORD CORBO

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I applaud you for your honesty, but seriously Corbo WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
I DONT MAKE PROFIT OUT OF THEM SO LEAVE ME ALONE!



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Nov 17 2008, 8:37 am Riney Post #38

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Get em corbo. ;D

Yea as long as you ask for donations it doesnt matter what you rip off these days. Unless its bnet....



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Nov 17 2008, 8:54 am LoveLess Post #39

Let me show you how to hump without making love.

Clan Dyne, assemble!



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Nov 22 2008, 4:28 pm A_of-s_t Post #40

aka idmontie

Our name should obviously be La Resistance.



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