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Need to know of any errors with Windows 7
Feb 5 2010, 10:21 pm
By: Super Duper  

Feb 5 2010, 10:21 pm Super Duper Post #1



I need to know if Windows 7 will work with my computer :omfg: . You see, my whole computer is really unorganized and I need Windows 7 so I can get more organized. Not to mention, it would help for work :/

Now, here is what I do on my computer:

Play StarCraft on rare occasions. ^^
Mod SC.
Chat on MSN.
Go around on the internet.
Download random stuff. Some things such as .exes, .dlls, javascripts and the like.

Now, here is my system info incase it is needed :|
System Info

The system info is not organized :( . I just listed all the stuff on the General Tab :stfu: .



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Feb 5 2010, 10:49 pm CecilSunkure Post #2



I don't see why Windows 7 wouldn't work, if you have enough HD space. You will need more RAM if you want to use the 64 bit OS; as of now you would need to stick with the 32 bit version.



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Feb 5 2010, 11:11 pm Super Duper Post #3



Whats the difference? :dontgetit:



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Feb 5 2010, 11:20 pm CecilSunkure Post #4



Well the 32 bit OS's, the range of RAM memory that can be accessed is −2,147,483,648 through 2,147,483,647, since 2^32 is twice as much as 2,147,483,647. 64 OS's can access much more RAM, since the range of memory is 2^64. Also, you need a little bit more RAM to work effectively in a 64 bit OS compared to a 32 bit one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32_bit



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Feb 5 2010, 11:33 pm Jack Post #5

>be faceless void >mfw I have no face

Just get linux. Barring that, how would W7 help you get organized?



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Feb 5 2010, 11:45 pm Excalibur Post #6

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W7 64bit and SCMDraft hate eachother. Zoom crashes constantly, and makes mapping murder. :c




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Feb 5 2010, 11:46 pm Super Duper Post #7



What about 32-bit, which I plan to get?



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Feb 5 2010, 11:48 pm Excalibur Post #8

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Quote from name:Ciara
What about 32-bit, which I plan to get?
I wouldn't know as I have never used it.




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Feb 6 2010, 12:26 am ShadowFlare Post #9



Your computer probably can't even use the 64-bit version (but you could check the processor features with CPU-Z to be sure). The 32-bit version works just fine and will be more compatible with older things than the 64-bit version, btw. You can even use your display driver from XP, if necessary.

And CecilSunkure, that's not how it works with the RAM on the 32-bit version. It can address up to 4 GB of RAM on the 32-bit version, but some of that address space is taken up by memory on other devices getting mapped into the physical address space so that the CPU can directly access it. I have 3.25 out of 4 GB available on my computer when running in 32-bit mode.

Someone else has a Pentium 4 2.4 GHz with 2 GB of RAM and a Radeon 9600 XT running Windows 7 32-bit here. It originally had XP Home and I helped them get a clean install of Windows 7 Pro set up on their other hard drive. It runs great on that system. I also have a computer I had put together from spare parts and couple cheap new parts to complete it, a socket AM2 Athlon 64 2.6 GHz single core with 2 GB of RAM and a Radeon HD 4550. It had Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit and I upgraded it to Windows 7 Pro 32-bit (had to do a simple registry tweak for it to allow the upgrade). That one is also working well. Hehe, even though it is technically against the license agreement, I'm probably going to use the Vista Home Premium key on another older system sometime that has Windows 2000 on it only because I didn't have any key left for XP or newer. (which is partly why I upgraded the one with Vista Home Premium - the key was cheap and I might be able to re-use the Vista Home Premium key for a different system)

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Feb 6 2010, 1:34 am LooKe Post #10



The zoom crashes 32 bit as well.

When playing starcraft I get funky colors in all the menus but once in game it works great.

Starcraft randomly locks my entire computer up while in game. Not very common, but when it happens its REALLLLY annoying.



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Feb 6 2010, 4:53 am CecilSunkure Post #11



Quote from ShadowFlare
And CecilSunkure, that's not how it works with the RAM on the 32-bit version. It can address up to 4 GB of RAM on the 32-bit version, but some of that address space is taken up by memory on other devices getting mapped into the physical address space so that the CPU can directly access it. I have 3.25 out of 4 GB available on my computer when running in 32-bit mode.
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know that some is mapped to the physical address space, which I'm assuming you mean HD?



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Feb 6 2010, 6:14 am ShadowFlare Post #12



No, things like RAM on your video card, etc. If you have a video card with 1 GB of RAM, your computer will map that 1 GB somewhere into the physical address space, potentially pushing the address of some of your RAM past the 4 GB mark. Yes, there is a way to access RAM past 4 GB addresses on 32-bit mode, but there is a performance penalty and not all drivers are compatible with it. Because of the latter of those two side effects, Windows XP SP2 and later, Windows Vista 32-bit, and Windows 7 32-bit all place a hard limit of 4 GB on the memory address space. This limitation is not placed on the server versions, because those are typically used with a more limited set of drivers.



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Feb 6 2010, 8:57 am Falkoner Post #13



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Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know that some is mapped to the physical address space, which I'm assuming you mean HD?

Well, basically, anything with Direct Memory Access(DMAs) gets several addresses, you can view your DMAs under Device Manager and View>Resources By Type>Memory. As you can see, it's mostly your video card taking using DMA, but lots of devices also use it.



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Feb 6 2010, 10:25 am NudeRaider Post #14

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Here's a nice article explaining 32bit addressing:
http://blogs.msdn.com/hiltonl/archive/2007/04/13/the-3gb-not-4gb-ram-problem.aspx




Feb 7 2010, 11:31 am Syphon Post #15



Quote from CecilSunkure
Well the 32 bit OS's, the range of RAM memory that can be accessed is −2,147,483,648 through 2,147,483,647, since 2^32 is twice as much as 2,147,483,647. 64 OS's can access much more RAM, since the range of memory is 2^64. Also, you need a little bit more RAM to work effectively in a 64 bit OS compared to a 32 bit one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32_bit

You also need a 64 bit CPU.



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Feb 7 2010, 9:33 pm DT_Battlekruser Post #16



I'm fairly sure it's been a while since you could buy a CPU that wasn't 64-bit.



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Feb 8 2010, 5:38 am ShadowFlare Post #17



Intel's Atom doesn't have 64-bit support. Anyway, the one starting the topic has a P4. I'm fairly sure there weren't any of those that had 64-bit support. There was a CPU with Pentium in the name that had 64-bit support on some models, but I think it was something after the P4.



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Feb 8 2010, 10:06 pm Super Duper Post #18



So yes or no, can my computer support 32-bit?



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Feb 8 2010, 10:28 pm CecilSunkure Post #19



Quote from name:Ciara
So yes or no, can my computer support 32-bit?
You have a 32-bit right now. Stay away from 64 bit.

Thanks for all the info guys.



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Feb 12 2010, 7:50 pm LooKe Post #20



Ya, Cervantes is right if it has 32-bit now you are fine.



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