Fix the bugs. Put back in mana drain on assault. Finish last terrain changes. Let it sit in for awhile, have tournament and then start making changes imo.

just out of curiosity was this changed since m3? I thought it has always scaled, but the two extra spawn was still more exp than the scaled exp given.

btw the gates respawning and giving exp is just sweet. I've killed the gates over and over in some of my games. Its nice not being punished anymore lol.

No, the scaling is still in the same proportion and has always changed with spawn level since the gradual XP was implemented. The XP produced is not scaled to the number of players on a team. The XP is slightly less than what actually spawns because it is much easier to obtain. You don't have to be physically present, in fact, you only need your team to control the outpost to get it, whereas killing the spawns requires, well, killing the spawns.

Here's a numerical example:
Six Zerglings from an outpost will come from three waves of spawns. Each spawn gives +1 XP to you and each of your (two) teammates for +3 XP to each and a total of +9 XP.
Killing six Zerglings would give +8 XP to you and +2 to each of your (two) teammates, for a total of +10. (and 5 minerals to you)

These are some changes I've done based on feedback I was given. I removed the bottom of the mid outpost's high dirt and replaced it with cliffs to make the geysers harder to snipe. I also removed a few bridges since many people said I used too many bridges. I plan to completely re-do top base. Also, don't mind the 2 cannons at middle base... I didn't get this terrain from m8; it was from my draft from m7.

Looks decent.

Don't redo top base, and put back the double ramp that looked like this /'''\ below mid. Even if you keep the low ground passage too, it's still very nice to have, there need to be SOME chokes.

Agreed, you need a few small areas to trap enemies, that's part of the strategy of the game, pincer attacks and blocks and trapping enemies. Bottom base is actually a fav of mine for chasing large opponents. Speedy heroes can chase them into spawn at several points there and trap them.

Another glitch to report. The matchup was, um, DT and Marine vs Warrior, Ling and Archer. At some point the Volt's l2 graphics appeared as we were breaking their base, and it happened twice. There was a "NO MAN LEFT BEHIND" wraith spawning repeatedly, and the graphic was as I said, the Volt's l2. I don't remember the sixth hero, but it wasn't a Volt and the guy had left anyway, so...?

No replay?? XS. I probably woulda been in that game too had i not been testin gwith norm XD.

Seems odd and unusual...and harmless.

Just something to point out, on the old terrain the bottom Geyser could be killed by ranged units out of cannon range. So since this has changed, maybe the middle Geysers should be more vulnerable to compensate...?

Or maybe bottoms geysers are just more worth it now!

Also, if one team owns bottom other owns mid...

bot outpost - very difficult to cap-steal, very easy to attack geyser

mid outpost - kind of difficult to cap-steal, kind of difficult to kill geysers

top outpost - very easy to cap-steal, very hard to kill geyser

I must beg to differ. Wait no this is m8 TS almost forgot since i can almost never play.

Then don't comment -.-

My analysis applies to the original terrain as well. So go ahead.

I was slyly commenting on how nobody hosts m8 publicly and i dislike it.

@CAFG

Top in original format was teh same amount of difficulty to kill as it was to take top, as both required you too just get past three cannons on one side and fend off spawn.

Please make medic L4 Full Heal himself. Its not imba to do so. Only to FH other heros. Like it is but FH himself. As it is, the medic is a very weak hero.

Since when did she become a guy?

I'd rather have medic fh all her allies and not herself than fh herself and not her allies. At least this way you would be able to still kill the medic. The problem i have with her fhing herself when she uses her l4 is that she becomes an asset, where she simply can then stand there and heal her allies, while staying alive due to her full hp. Really, i like the way moose changed this a lot.

I'm working on a complete terrain redo I doubt Moose is going to use or any of you are going to like. However it is 9001% more balanced than the current one.

Pictures in the next couple of days. I got the basic layout done but nothing is pretty yet.

Moose probably will, and I'll like it as long as by 'balanced' you don't mean 'mirrored'

Proper distances and path widths. Less chokes, and where there are chokes, they're consistent. Top is still mountains, bottom is still bridges/swamp.