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Creator: Akar
Time: Aug 29 2007, 12:34 am
 Akar Aug 29 2007, 12:34 am Post #1
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Theres one fatal flaw in map protection. Mappers can't use the maps to learn how to implement features.
So, what I've started doing is making example maps or small little maps that have one system in them that will show them an example of what is happening. I think this system is very good to teach new mappers.
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 Money Aug 29 2007, 12:57 am Post #2
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Theres some good ones here, compliments of falkoner. I tried the test pack, its pretty cool.
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 O)ShizTheresABear Aug 29 2007, 2:14 am Post #3
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There's a Tutorials section and a UMS Assistance section if you want to learn things. Maps are protected for a reason and fellow mappers should respect that reason by not opening a map, even if it is for learning. If you want to learn things, asking is always a good solution.
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 (U)devilesk Aug 29 2007, 12:31 pm Post #4
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I think there's plenty of unprotected maps that show good examples of certain systems, but I see no problem if you want to create your own set of maps with the goal of being purely for example. It wouldn't hurt anyone and would only do good.

I also think writing a separate tutorial that would go with the system would also be good. Then they could be put into the Tutorials section of SEN if they get it back.
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 Gerrard2060 Aug 29 2007, 12:41 pm Post #5
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Well, you can still check this out: http://doodle77.dyndns.org/tutorials.html
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 Falkoner Aug 29 2007, 12:53 pm Post #6
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I've got some of the more advanced concepts here:

http://Falkoner.CoW.GooglePages.com/Tutorials.html

I've found that new mappers find those tutorials easier to understand than most of the tutorials made by other people, it's also the only site with terrain tutorials.
 Gerrard2060 Aug 29 2007, 1:07 pm Post #7
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Yo Falkoner, when are you going to update your site?
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 Oo.Twitch.oO Aug 29 2007, 3:36 pm Post #8
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You can always go here for trigger help aswell :D .Triggers
 (U)devilesk Aug 29 2007, 5:38 pm Post #9
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The help here will be better though: http://www.staredit.net/?forum=8
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Re: Will Maphack be allowed in SC2?
for LAST TIME MAPHACK IS NOT CHEAT. is ROCKET BOOSTER INTO SPACE CHEAT? ROCKET BOOSTER INTO SPACE MAKE SPACE TRAVEL EASIER BUT NOT CHEAT. THEREFORE, MAPHACK IS NOT CHEAT. WOW YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPIDS!!!!

While playing Soldat:
Bravo Team Member: staying two seconds at one place is not camping..
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 Falkoner Aug 29 2007, 7:53 pm Post #10
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Hmm, Gerrard, I really have no idea, I might add a few more tutorials, just the more complex ones, like binary count-offs, but I don't think I'll ever do as many as I wanted, since with SC2 coming out it would just end up being a waste.
 Akar Aug 29 2007, 10:16 pm Post #11
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I'll have a fairly decent example map database when I release them.
Hell, I even implemented a shared EXP system, as in, everyone gains EXP the same, but can lose it differently.
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 Falkoner Sep 3 2007, 10:51 pm Post #12
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Just submit your map to a map making website, like SeN, even if you map is stolen, the people who really matter know who's it really is.
 blacklight28 Sep 4 2007, 5:24 am Post #13
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haha yeah i dled falkoner's test pack and terrain compliation, they're awesome but a lot of the test maps triggers are confusing...
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 Falkoner Sep 4 2007, 1:05 pm Post #14
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The tutorials on my website almost all have test maps, but there aren't very many tutorials..
 Ahli Sep 4 2007, 2:08 pm Post #15
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The best way to learn something is to contruct systems by yourself.
Play maps with working systems and first try to copy the system.
Then try to make it better. Often you can do it better.
If you always fail, you can still ask in a forum like this.
So OSmap is not needed. Just use your brain and try to create new systems coming up to your mind.
the direct solution is not always the best...
And yes, my famoust map was stolen, but I just fixed (nearly) every bug out of the game.

Ahli
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 Gerrard2060 Sep 4 2007, 2:21 pm Post #16
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Quote from AhliThe best way to learn something is to contruct systems by yourself.
Play maps with working systems and first try to copy the system.
Then try to make it better. Often you can do it better.
If you always fail, you can still ask in a forum like this.
So OSmap is not needed. Just use your brain and try to create new systems coming up to your mind.
the direct solution is not always the best...
And yes, my famoust map was stolen, but I just fixed (nearly) every bug out of the game.

Ahli


Wow Ahli. Now you inspired me to make maps again!
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 purple100 Sep 10 2007, 2:08 pm Post #17
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I remember Staredit.net used to have a mobile grid tutorial in the Experimental section (maybe it was in Other, I don't remember). It was a small movie map that walked through the mobile grid techniques. Highly useful, and I wish I hadn't lost it.
This post was edited 1 time, last edit by Esponeo: Sep 19 2007, 1:12 am.  Reason being: Removed Off-Topic Response
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 Akar Sep 10 2007, 9:22 pm Post #18
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Your in luck my friend
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 purple100 Sep 11 2007, 1:22 am Post #19
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Sweet! I extend many thanks to you!
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 Esponeo Sep 19 2007, 1:05 am Post #20
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I have deleted all discussion about map unprotection vs. protection. The purpose of this topic is to discuss and share example maps.

By the way, this isn't really a 'new' idea but if you do make example maps, mad props to you sir.
This post was edited 1 time, last edit by Esponeo: Sep 19 2007, 1:13 am.
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Ahli -- exit transport works for bunker ^^
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Ahli -- the database has some problems with map (terrain) size or?
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