If the conservatives did'nt bring in so much dept, then McCain would became president. Tax and spend liberals give us a surplus, and the conservatives barely tax, leaving little money for the government. This might have been already said, but I'm too lazy to look through this topic.

If the conservatives did'nt bring in so much dept, then McCain would became president. Tax and spend liberals give us a surplus, and the conservatives barely tax, leaving little money for the government.

This might have been already said, but I'm too lazy to look through this topic.

Go do some research and learn to spell. Bill Clinton was the root of our national debt and the only fault that Bush had was that he didn't predict this with his administration and try to prevent it.

Go do some research and learn to spell. Bill Clinton was the root of our national debt and the only fault that Bush had was that he didn't predict this with his administration and try to prevent it.

Having Obama as the President of the United States to (most) of the population is great. There is no reason not to dislike him for any reason - yet. When he assumes office in January, he will make decisions which we can judge him on. Now, for the more important things... The media took Obama's story, and raised it into an uproar. With all these people finally going "LOL WE GOTZ A BLK PRZDNT GUIZE", he won the election. But with such high expectations and standards the media setup for him, he likely will crash and burn, because he just can't keep up to what the Media has claimed to be "A Historical Event". One dumb move, and he's gone. Infact, to word it better, if everything doesn't go PERFECTLY, you should not see him be re-elected (unless of course, there is a less shitty candidate).

Having Obama as the President of the United States to (most) of the population is great.

There is no reason not to dislike him for any reason - yet. When he assumes office in January, he will make decisions which we can judge him on.

Now, for the more important things... The media took Obama's story, and raised it into an uproar. With all these people finally going "LOL WE GOTZ A BLK PRZDNT GUIZE", he won the election. But with such high expectations and standards the media setup for him, he likely will crash and burn, because he just can't keep up to what the Media has claimed to be "A Historical Event". One dumb move, and he's gone. Infact, to word it better, if everything doesn't go PERFECTLY, you should not see him be re-elected (unless of course, there is a less shitty candidate).

All we can donow is just wait and see what happens during the rest of Bush's reign of president. I can't wait until January. I just hope nothing bad happens to Obama.

All we can donow is just wait and see what happens during the rest of Bush's reign of president. I can't wait until January. I just hope nothing bad happens to Obama.

[quote=name:Echo]Go do some research and learn to spell. Bill Clinton was the root of our national debt and the only fault that Bush had was that he didn't predict this with his administration and try to prevent it.[/quote] How does cutting taxes and raising spending reduce/prevent the national debt? Clinton had higher taxes and responsible spending, and if his policies had been continued we could've been riding a projected trillion dollar surplus. The root of the national debt goes all the way back to when the country was founded. The United States owed money to its soldiers, allies, and other sources since the Revolutionary War, and it has never been repaid. The debt has massively ballooned 3 times: WW2, the Reagan/Bush Era, and the current George Bush. [img=http://home.att.net/~mwhodges/debt.gif]

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Go do some research and learn to spell. Bill Clinton was the root of our national debt and the only fault that Bush had was that he didn't predict this with his administration and try to prevent it.

How does cutting taxes and raising spending reduce/prevent the national debt? Clinton had higher taxes and responsible spending, and if his policies had been continued we could've been riding a projected trillion dollar surplus.

The root of the national debt goes all the way back to when the country was founded. The United States owed money to its soldiers, allies, and other sources since the Revolutionary War, and it has never been repaid. The debt has massively ballooned 3 times: WW2, the Reagan/Bush Era, and the current George Bush.

Echo, show me the research that says that Clinton was the cause. I hate Clinton for geopolitical reasons (as always), but he was pretty good money-wise. Of course, he got into power right as the only major competitor fell (RIP Commies :P), so it's perfectly possible that he was crap but didn't need to spend money on arms, which saved him from going down as an idiot in the books. A few more arms supremacists in the White House (like Reagan :D) and the debt'll go through the roof. I was kind of disappointed when Obama won - McCain sounded rather hilarious.

Echo, show me the research that says that Clinton was the cause. I hate Clinton for geopolitical reasons (as always), but he was pretty good money-wise. Of course, he got into power right as the only major competitor fell (RIP Commies ), so it's perfectly possible that he was crap but didn't need to spend money on arms, which saved him from going down as an idiot in the books.

A few more arms supremacists in the White House (like Reagan ) and the debt'll go through the roof. I was kind of disappointed when Obama won - McCain sounded rather hilarious.

[quote=name:Echo]Go do some research and learn to spell. Bill Clinton was the root of our national debt and the only fault that Bush had was that he didn't predict this with his administration and try to prevent it.[/quote] Burdon of Proof is on you pal. And I honestly don't see how creating a surplus is being the root of our 'national debt' but I guess whatever floats that boat in there they call a brain :) Still would love to hear your proof though.

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Go do some research and learn to spell. Bill Clinton was the root of our national debt and the only fault that Bush had was that he didn't predict this with his administration and try to prevent it.

Burdon of Proof is on you pal. And I honestly don't see how creating a surplus is being the root of our 'national debt' but I guess whatever floats that boat in there they call a brain

Still would love to hear your proof though.

[color=#81A7EF]I see taxing is a sort of a good thing. While others see it as a bad thing. And those others are running our country the first day it became U.S.A., because of the Revolutionary War, we started with a [size=18]huge[/size] dept that we couldn't get out of, and right now its come back to haunt generations. I hope things don't go out of hand of taxing either...[/color]

I see taxing is a sort of a good thing.

While others see it as a bad thing. And those others are running our country the first day it became U.S.A., because of the Revolutionary War, we started with a huge dept that we couldn't get out of, and right now its come back to haunt generations.

I hope things don't go out of hand of taxing either...

Yes, taxation is a damn good thing, and no, it won't get out of hand. That's not how you get out of debt. It's how you really, really piss people off and make them vote for the other party next time around. Debt is always a part of a country - the thing about the US is how much goes into useless spending, so it keeps increasing. Most countries stay in debt at least a bit to keep some money on-hand as rainy day money in case something goes wrong instead of being completely debt-free. The US has taken this to the extreme. I have no idea where they got the $700,000,000,000 from. The thing I hate about these politics is that sometimes a country needs to go through some hard times to emerge for the better. This democracy [s]crap[/s] stuff (I dun' care!) makes such changes much harder to implement because it pretty much guarantees that the party who put it into motion won't be liked, and the party that comes into power next will get the credit.

Yes, taxation is a damn good thing, and no, it won't get out of hand. That's not how you get out of debt. It's how you really, really piss people off and make them vote for the other party next time around.

Debt is always a part of a country - the thing about the US is how much goes into useless spending, so it keeps increasing. Most countries stay in debt at least a bit to keep some money on-hand as rainy day money in case something goes wrong instead of being completely debt-free. The US has taken this to the extreme. I have no idea where they got the $700,000,000,000 from.

The thing I hate about these politics is that sometimes a country needs to go through some hard times to emerge for the better. This democracy crap stuff (I dun' care!) makes such changes much harder to implement because it pretty much guarantees that the party who put it into motion won't be liked, and the party that comes into power next will get the credit.