Strings
May 16 2008, 10:32 pm
By: Vrael  

May 16 2008, 10:32 pm Vrael Post #1



Don't know what I did, but now when I go into my string table on SCMDraft2, it gives me an error and shuts down.
"Something bad has happened, would you like to save a diagnostic file?"
Then I get the windows error for a program shutting down, and boom. Done.

What can I do to correct my strings?



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May 16 2008, 11:00 pm Heimdal Post #2



There have been like a record number of people with this problem lately.

Some have reported that they are using over 1024 strings. At least one or two other people had this happen when something was wrong with their backup database. Try renaming your backup database, if that doesn't work then try reducing your string usage.



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May 17 2008, 2:45 am Madroc Post #3



Sounds familiar. Good luck man, I never was able to fix mine.



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May 17 2008, 4:41 am Vrael Post #4



Here's some more info on my problem that I've discovered:

In the Locations drop down menu on the left, there's a new location that I didn't create, and it shares the name of one of my comments in my triggers.
Also, scmdraft no longer displays the name of the location in the actual map. You know, the green letters in the upper left corner of each blue location area? They're all gone. I deleted scmdraft, ran a registry clean, then re-extracted to the same folder. No luck, still doesn't display the green.
What can I do to fix this?



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May 17 2008, 5:42 am x1101x Post #5



Ok go under scenario strings. Look for something called string section info. If it is above 60% or so that's whats causing the glitch. I have found that you can have as many strings as you want as long as this percent is at or less than 60. You can lower this number by lowering the number of strings you have (duplicates only count as one string so use this to your advantage) or by using shorter strings. If you can get this down ten percent or so you should be able to continue working on your map.



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May 18 2008, 12:28 am Vrael Post #6



Will this fix the display of SCMDraft's green Location text?

Edit: Because even when I open other maps I have this problem.



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May 18 2008, 2:42 am rockz Post #7

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Quote from x1101x
Ok go under scenario strings. Look for something called string section info. If it is above 60% or so that's whats causing the glitch. I have found that you can have as many strings as you want as long as this percent is at or less than 60. You can lower this number by lowering the number of strings you have (duplicates only count as one string so use this to your advantage) or by using shorter strings. If you can get this down ten percent or so you should be able to continue working on your map.
lol, he can't, at least not in scmdraft. And usually it's OVER 1024 strings, but that is neither here nor there.

Open up Starforge, try it there. Get rid of that corrupted string any way possible. Open up both uberations, and see if you can't recycle the strings, or delete them. Open the map up in xtra editor, try to delete that location. If all else fails, staredit won't corrupt the map very easily. Fartyedit might be a possibility as well, but you'll have to ask him where to get it, as I've never used it.

Now, if this doesn't work, which I suspect it doesn't, you may want to consider using an older version of SCMDraft for a bit.

If you really want to avoid all this in the future, stop commenting.



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May 18 2008, 3:31 am Falkoner Post #8



Ugh, where is SI, he really needs to figure out what this problem is.

You should always be careful when working with strings, you can really mess up things.

If you want FartyEdit, you get get it at Farty's website: http://Farty1billion.DynDNS.org

But if you want the latest version, you'll have to ask him personally, as he is too lazy to actually update it :><:



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May 18 2008, 7:08 pm Vrael Post #9



Thanks the problem is with SCMDraft itself I believe, so I may have to try an older version, because this isn't just in one map where the location names don't display, but on every map I open with SCMDraft. I tried deleting draft and putting it back from the zip file, but that didn't work either. Think maybe if I uninstall starcraft and reinstall that'll help? Does SCMDraft draws on the .mpq's from starcraft, could that have something to do with it?

Oh, and I can't get starforge to work on my computer for some reason.



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May 18 2008, 9:17 pm NudeRaider Post #10

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Quote from Vrael
Think maybe if I uninstall starcraft and reinstall that'll help? Does SCMDraft draws on the .mpq's from starcraft, could that have something to do with it?
If you haven't changed the mpq's reinstalling sc shouldn't help as ScmDraft doesn't modify them, though it reads them.




May 18 2008, 11:15 pm Falkoner Post #11



I assume your problem with Starforge is that it wants you to locate certain files, no? Just point it to the StarForge folder and select any of the files there and it should work.



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May 19 2008, 3:08 am Vrael Post #12



Yea falkon I've tried that, I select the StarDat.mpq and it says "registry changed! restart starforge" or whatever and I restart my computer and restart forge, and get the same error.



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May 19 2008, 4:02 am fm47 Post #13



I started a topic sometime ago about this. I got the exact same message. Here's what I found that helped: click on every location you have, make sure none of them are 1x1 pixel. Delete the ones that are. Next, make sure none of your triggers are named the same. I went through with notepad placing "shared:" in front of shared trigger comments amongst players, then "p1:" for player 1 trigs, "p2:" for player 2, etc. as the front of the comment. I haven't really had much of a problem since then.

When it asks you to save a diagnostic file, click NO. If you've made a lot of progress and REALLY do not want to do it again, you can always hit Yes. The problem with that is that SCMD2 will no longer be able to open it. What I've done with these situations is open the map in SF and then deleting the most likely string(s) causing the problem. The most likely ones are likely the ones you edited before saving. Save, then reopen in SCMD2.



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May 19 2008, 4:09 am rockz Post #14

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Quote from Vrael
Yea falkon I've tried that, I select the StarDat.mpq and it says "registry changed! restart starforge" or whatever and I restart my computer and restart forge, and get the same error.
Is it too much trouble to reinstall Starcraft? You don't need the cd anymore (thank god), but you'll need a new key, which they give you. I recommend reinstalling everything, redownloading your editors and such. The best part about starcraft utilities is that they are portable, and don't need to be "installed", so it shouldn't be too bad.



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May 19 2008, 4:37 am Vrael Post #15



Quote from NudeRaider
Quote from Vrael
Think maybe if I uninstall starcraft and reinstall that'll help? Does SCMDraft draws on the .mpq's from starcraft, could that have something to do with it?
If you haven't changed the mpq's reinstalling sc shouldn't help as ScmDraft doesn't modify them, though it reads them.

Based on what Nude said, I didn't think that would help, but I may try reinstalling everything anyway.



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May 19 2008, 5:48 pm Heimdal Post #16



If you have a map that you really want to save, you can send it to me and I'll take a look at it.



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May 20 2008, 2:35 pm rockz Post #17

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Very well then, it appears I have the same problem as you Vrael.

This is on a fresh install on my laptop (desktop still works, thank god). I used the install off of the website, perhaps that has something to do with it.

Neither SCMDraft2 nor StarForge works, with the exact problem that Vrael inputted for starforge. I'll try and see if I can get it to work with my desktop's Stardat.mpq.



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May 20 2008, 5:29 pm Heimdal Post #18



By "install off the website" you mean the downloaded SC version?

Seeing as an increasing number of people have been having trouble with SCMDraft (and SF?), and neither program has changed recently, I'd wager that this probably has something to do with it. If possible, you should try comparing the archives. Both SCMDraft and SF use 3rd-party MPQ libraries, so it's possible the version of the MPQ got updated and the editors got left in the dust. But if this was the case then I'd expect it to happen with any up-to-date SC version, not just ones off the website.

SF looks in the registry to try to find the location of SC's archives, and it's possible that the web install doesn't set these. But if that were the case it would ask you to find the archives and then everything should be gravy after that.



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May 20 2008, 5:56 pm rockz Post #19

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Well that makes sense...
On my desktop, Stardat.mpq is 64634 kB. On the laptop, it's 65359 kB. Even StarCraft.mpq is larger. Both BrooDat and BroodWar are smaller, however, by almost as much. It looks like there is a problem with the downloaded version...



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May 20 2008, 6:08 pm Heimdal Post #20



Awesome! Check the versions of Storm.dll on each computer. Right-click, properties, version tab. If they're different, we're in trouble...

Can WinMPQ still open the downloaded archives?



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