Staredit Network > Forums > SC1 UMS Mapmaking Assistance > Topic: save files scm,scx , scmraw file, scxrawfile
save files scm,scx , scmraw file, scxrawfile
Oct 18 2020, 1:59 pm
By: GGmano  

Oct 18 2020, 1:59 pm GGmano Post #1

Mr.Pete-Tong

Hi i wanted to ask if anyone knows what difference it makes what file you save your map in.

Theres Starcraft remastered hybrid map(.scm)
Theres Starcraft Broodwar map(.scx)
Theres Starcraft remastered Broodwar map(.scx)
Theres Raw Starcraft remastered hybrid map(.chk)
Theres Raw Starcraft Broodwar map(.chk)
Theres Raw Starcraft remastered Broodwar map(chk)

Does the units act different depending on what files you save file into, like does heroes use abilities if saved in remaster broodwar?
Does the map limits change depending on which file you save into?
Does the Unit (units owned by a computer player) ai scripts change?
Does the graphic in the game change?
Does the triggers change?
Does the string limit change?
Does it have any effect on use multithreading, like using specific save file decrease the lag by some computers using cpus for graphic?

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 18 2020, 2:38 pm by GGmano.



Trust is everything

Oct 18 2020, 2:10 pm Oh_Man Post #2

Find Me On Discord (Brood War UMS Community & Staredit Network)

Quote
Theres Starcraft remastered Broodwar map(.scx)

use this if you want more strings.

Quote
Theres Starcraft Broodwar map(.scx)

use this if you want your map to still work on older versions of Brood War (pre-remaster) but not have any features of remaster (string limit increase, ramps, etc.)

Never use the others.




Oct 18 2020, 2:34 pm GGmano Post #3

Mr.Pete-Tong

ive been using remaster hybrid (.scm). im not sure what the difference is on broodwar map (.scx) and hybrid map(.scm) is. My hybird map(.scm) have been working ok for a long time but now i need more strings and that seems not possible in hybrid map. thats why im asking if you know if theres other differncies on these save files?



Trust is everything

Oct 18 2020, 3:35 pm Oh_Man Post #4

Find Me On Discord (Brood War UMS Community & Staredit Network)

My understanding is .scm = Starcraft, .scx = Starcraft Brood War.




Oct 18 2020, 4:10 pm GGmano Post #5

Mr.Pete-Tong

yeah but scm = starcraft seems to me to allow all the same units as broodwar does cause its a hybrid, well i used scm with all units awaliable. but string limits is a problem for scm it seems to me.



Trust is everything

Oct 18 2020, 4:58 pm C(a)HeK Post #6



Quote from GGmano
Does the units act different depending on what files you save file into, like does heroes use abilities if saved in remaster broodwar?
Nope, I saved a maps as StarCraft BroodWar Map scx\scm. This is for playing through 1.16 and Remastered. If I will save as StarCraft Remastered BroodWar Map, then I will not open a map through 1.16.

Quote from GGmano
Does the map limits change depending on which file you save into?
Yes. For example, EUD triggers will not work in 1.16 if the author made it in Remastered.
Ultraviolet made a map "Mercenaries" with EUD triggers for Remastered, for example.

Quote from GGmano
Does the Unit (units owned by a computer player) ai scripts change?
No.

Quote from GGmano
Does the graphic in the game change?
If you will not make a mode then graphic will be the same as the current version.

Quote from GGmano
Does the triggers change?
No.

Quote from GGmano
Does the string limit change?
I can't answer.

Quote from GGmano
Does it have any effect on use multithreading, like using specific save file decrease the lag by some computers using cpus for graphic?
I don't know, sorry.

I hope I could help you.



Hello everyone, friends. I'm translate custom campaigns from English into Russian.
You can call me Alexander.
My YouTube profile - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3AKk_GJGHuPgVzw48WN25g?view_as=subscriber
My Campaign Creations profile - https://www.campaigncreations.org/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=21052&sid=3f543feff02a313d55c77854536b3bce

Oct 18 2020, 6:39 pm GGmano Post #7

Mr.Pete-Tong

thanks c(a)hek that was good help



Trust is everything

Oct 19 2020, 3:20 am C(a)HeK Post #8



Quote from GGmano
thanks c(a)hek that was good help

You're welcome :)

Btw, you can load my map - http://www.staredit.net/topic/18023/
And you can open it in 1.16 and Remastered.
So you will understand that the difference is only in the graphic.



Hello everyone, friends. I'm translate custom campaigns from English into Russian.
You can call me Alexander.
My YouTube profile - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3AKk_GJGHuPgVzw48WN25g?view_as=subscriber
My Campaign Creations profile - https://www.campaigncreations.org/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=21052&sid=3f543feff02a313d55c77854536b3bce

Oct 19 2020, 4:59 am DarkenedFantasies Post #9

Roy's Secret Service

Starcraft Broodwar Map (.scx) is usually marginally larger in file size (less than 1 KB) than an identical Starcraft Map (.scm). An identical Starcraft Hybrid Map (.scm) is noticeably larger (about 1.5 KB) by containing the sections from both formats. I never checked how the Remastered map formats differ from their 1.16.1 counterparts.

CHK (raw scenario) maps are the actual map files found inside the SCM/SCX files, which are MPQ archives holding the compressed CHK and WAVs. The blizzard campaign missions are found as CHK files in starcraft.mpq and broodwar.mpq.

Naturally, Hybrid SCM allows the map to be played on both Vanilla and Broodwar modes, but they also make it possible to disable Broodwar tech without restricting the map to Broodwar mode for editing that data if one would so desire.

The most notable difference I think is that the Vanilla SCM format doesn't have the COLR section, which restricts editing player colors to Broodwar mode. Hybrid SCM contains the COLR section, but it's ignored in Vanilla mode.




Options
  Back to forum
Please log in to reply to this topic or to report it.
Members in this topic: None.
[11:19 pm]
Vrael -- only downside is occasionally I travel for work, so in a week I'll be venturing out into the COVID-ridden world
[11:18 pm]
Vrael -- mostly same for me, I was full time telecommute before COVID hit so nothing changed :D
[09:46 pm]
jjf28 -- ya, covid only a mild inconvenience for me; urges to do things I can't have largely subsided
[09:19 pm]
Centreri -- As a software engineer, I got really lucky with coronavirus. Smooth transition to remote work, not too much pressure, time to game
[09:18 pm]
Centreri -- I've started playing SCII with my brother recently again! Quite a lot, I'm not very good. custom maps in SCII are so bad though
[07:51 pm]
Vrael -- actually played some starcraft this weekend without feeling like I needed to be working, was a good feeling
[07:50 pm]
Vrael -- Centreri
Centreri shouted: so how you doing vrael
doing good man, finally got a handle on work after like 3 months of busting my ass
[07:15 pm]
Moose -- smart talk do be dead tbh
[06:36 pm]
jjf28 -- well we talk on discord... not really as intellectuals :P
[06:02 pm]
Centreri -- so how you doing vrael
Please log in to shout.


Members Online: Roy, TheSophomancer, digitalm1