Hey guys, I have a band that I'm in and previously somebody on this forum created me a sort of CD Cover / Band Image for facebook and myspace, but it doesn't seem to be a particularly high resolution, which is having trouble with stretch.

Would anybody be kind to re-create for me the same logo or create a new and improved logo? Please and thank you!

You may want to provide the link to said image.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/mmpp.png/

The image seems a bit too literal. I realize it's saying "past Pluto," but putting a picture of a planet seems kinda unoriginal.

Or maybe not. I don't know. ;\

Is this for commercial purposes?

I made it

uh, I don't know if I saved a PSD for it. I can't just "Make it bigger". At least not easily and I don't really have that much time on my hands right now. Sorry bro.

Yeah, I really liked the work you did on this MadZombie, it's just over time with the move towards HD and that, this picture's resolution became a bit outdated.

The use of this will not be commercial in the sense that I most likely will not be making any money from the CDs from our first album, it will be more of a free EP to try and get people engaged in our music.

I've got somebody else who has agreed to have a crack at this over the next few weeks, so it'd be great if somebody from these forums could help me out and then I could get a great variety in logos and backgrounds.

See, I am willing to help you. The problem is that I do need to know if this will be monetized or not. It seems like a small issue but it's actually rather big of one. It limits resources that are available to me, for example (especially type). Additionally, I am more hesitant about tossing over intellectual property when I do a commission.

There's no plan for this to be sold, it's more just for facebook and Myspace and to go on my CD Cover for when my University asks for a portfolio of what I've done.

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The use of this will not be commercial in the sense

Either it's commercial or it isn't.

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I most likely will not be making any money

Either you're making money or you're not.

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it will be more of a free EP

Either it's free or it isn't.

Clearly you intend to make money off this if the opportunity presents itself.

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The use of this will not be commercial in the sense

Either it's commercial or it isn't.

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I most likely will not be making any money

Either you're making money or you're not.

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it will be more of a free EP

Either it's free or it isn't.

Clearly you intend to make money off this if the opportunity presents itself.

Or perhaps I cannot see in to the future and so I would rather make a statement about probability than assume I know what is going to happen in the future?

The EP is being recorded as part of an assignment for College, it doubles up as a great way for my band to record some of our music, we do intend to perform some shows and at some point I will develop upon these songs and make more songs when I go to London. It is not a sure guarantee that this music will NOT be sold, but it would appear to me within all my limited knowledge and foresight that it will not be sold. It may, perhaps, be given away as a cover to an EP to promote my music for free, but again, even that isn't definite.

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Or perhaps I cannot see in to the future and so I would rather make a statement about probability than assume I know what is going to happen in the future?

... Except the question is specifically about whether or not you are going to sell this at some point in the future.

Something that you, specifically, will intentionally do or not do when the time comes.

There is no probability involved here. It's a choice that you will make one way or the other.

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Clearly you intend to make money off this if the opportunity presents itself.

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It is not a sure guarantee that this music will NOT be sold

Which is what I said.

What it basically comes down to is, you're trying to get someone to make noncommercial content for you, using noncommercial content to make it, which they are certainly going to do for a product you're pretending will just be free promotional material.

Then, you might decide to make money off it later.

That's both disingenuous and illegal.

If you get noncommercial content to use, you can't decide to make money off it at any point in time in the future. Or to put it a different way, there must be a probability of 0 that you will ever make money off it That is why you were specifically asked that.

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See, I am willing to help you. The problem is that I do need to know if this will be monetized or not. It seems like a small issue but it's actually rather big of one. It limits resources that are available to me, for example (especially type). Additionally, I am more hesitant about tossing over intellectual property when I do a commission.

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There's no plan for this to be sold, it's more just for facebook and Myspace and to go on my CD Cover for when my University asks for a portfolio of what I've done.

You're being pretty deceitful here, since if he had made it for you under the assumption it wouldn't be sold, you would not be allowed (legally or ethically) to make money off of it.

Your answer should have been:

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It is not a sure guarantee that this music will NOT be sold

That's all he wanted to know. I'm pretty sure after you blatantly lied to him he's not going to make anything for you though.

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The EP is being recorded as part of an assignment for College ...

Do your own school work :<

And I won't allow my work to be used for illegal purposes.

Wow...
It's a college assignment, not my college assignment, somebody else's, they have to record an album for a band.
I am hardly going against the law by asking somebody to design a picture for my band to put on Myspace / a cover to a CD I may be giving out for free if it get's to that stage. Like, I could understand if you said no, sorry, I don't have the time to do or don't want to do it. But by being such a pedantic bitch about it really is unnecessary. Are you American by any chance?

Not that this is my fight but I agree with Insoluble, there was no reason for you to say anything about the ambiguity of his words pertaining to the possibility of monetary gain being made via the album artwork; if you were the person making the art it might be a little different but you aren't.

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I am hardly going against the law by asking somebody to design a picture for my band to put on Myspace / a cover to a CD I may be giving out for free if it get's to that stage.

It's absolutely going against the law to tell people they can use expressly noncommercial content, which is restricted by noncommercial licenses, for something which may be used to make money at any point in time. It's not only illegal, it's incredibly dishonest and unethical.

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Not that this is my fight but I agree with Insoluble, there was no reason for you to say anything about the ambiguity of his words pertaining to the possibility of monetary gain being made via the album artwork; if you were the person making the art it might be a little different but you aren't.

I don't need to be the person making the art to point out his unscrupulous behavior. That is totally irrelevant.

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It's a college assignment, not my college assignment, somebody else's, they have to record an album for a band.

I don't do schoolwork for other people =p

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I am hardly going against the law by asking somebody to design a picture for my band to put on Myspace / a cover to a CD I may be giving out for free if it get's to that stage.

By asking? No, of course not. No harm done there, but I know every band wants to make it big and live the dream. But I can't go willy-nilly taking other people's work and slapping on something so thoughtlessly. I like to be professional about serious projects. And that means concerning myself with intellectual property.

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Like, I could understand if you said no, sorry, I don't have the time to do or don't want to do it. But by being such a pedantic bitch about it really is unnecessary.

Make it yourself, then?

Azrael, your input is no longer needed or wanted. Thank you.

The recording is their college work, the album is mutually beneficial in that I get an EP/Short Album out of it. Not every band wants to make it big, because to some people that isn't the dream. For me, this is a band I'm working on whilst I live in this town, the main cause for me presuming this would never make money is because I am moving in a matter of a few months and the time it would take to generate enough fans and material wouldn't be worth it. It's a bit of fun more than anything else, and whilst your specific logo may not be the logo I would use, it could be the inspiration towards one when I settle down in London. Really, all I am looking for is something to make the facebook page a bit prettier that can also be placed on the CD Cover for free demos of music whilst I try to promote the band. When I start profiting off my music, which is by no expectations in the near future, I shall consider paying for professional logos. If you do not want to do this for me, I am okay with that, but I will not stand for malicious lies from elitist punks on this website. It seems not much has changed in the years I've been gone.

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I will not stand for malicious lies from elitist punks on this website.

I have yet to see any malicious lies in this thread. I get that you just want someone to do some work for you, but I also get why everyone else has made a big deal out of whether or not the art will be used for commercial purposes, as that changes which fonts you can use, which artwork you may be able to use, and so on. Clearly this has been blown out of proportion, as a simple "I do not plan to use this work in anything I sell" would have ended this from the beginning. But looking back I really haven't seen anything equivalent to "malicious lies" as they've just been trying to figure out what the limitations would be.

How about everyone takes a chill pill and waits for someone to come along and help him.