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payne
Nov 4 2010, 10:24 pm
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Jack sent me a PM basically saying that he had to stop to come over SEN for RL (job) reasons.
Here is the list of unfinished wikis he leaves to us: http://www.staredit.net/starcraft2/Previewer http://www.staredit.net/starcraft2/UI_Triggers http://www.staredit.net/starcraft2/MPQ_(Format) http://www.staredit.net/starcraft2/MPQ_Exporting http://www.staredit.net/starcraft2/StarCraft_II_Models http://www.staredit.net/starcraft2/GS_Syntax ... AKA: To complete. EDIT: See this post as well: http://www.staredit.net/267833/ This post was edited 1 time, last edit by payne: Nov 5 2010, 5:28 pm. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #3
payne
Nov 5 2010, 6:51 am
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DevliN
Nov 5 2010, 8:15 am
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That's great! OneTwo does some fantastic work, so it would be nice to see if he can help out.
Eventually I probably should extend the ol' olive branch to Sixen to get SC2M involved, but I have a feeling he wont be interested. Maybe one day... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() CURRENTLY WORKING ON Shadowlands | Demonic: Urban Apocalypse Invasion: Ares | Recon | OMG TEH ZOMBIES!!! |
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Jack[RCDF
Nov 5 2010, 8:32 pm
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Understanding breeds empathy.
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The problem isn't my job not letting me browse sen, it's me not having a job and needing to use my time more wisely, which means I've stopped gaming and SEN-ning and clanning on computers so that I can look for a job better
Anyway, I should be back after a month or so if things go well. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Red classic. VRAEL = 뱃맨!!! |
Post #9
Jack[RCDF
Nov 10 2010, 7:18 pm
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Understanding breeds empathy.
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Oh noes I still haven't left properly! Anyway I still have the SEN wiki on my Reader which is half the reason I keep logging back in here, and I couldn't help but notice that practically every edit payne makes (OK a slight exaggeration) involves adding a link to sc2mapster. This is ridiculous, I don't notice you linking to hive or any of our affiliates, but you go out of your way to add sc2mapster links. If you're copying and pasting their articles and tutes, just stop. Read their articles, learn from them, then make your own and add to it so it's better and not plagiarized.
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Post #10
DevliN
Nov 10 2010, 7:29 pm
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Yeah, this was brought up in another thread as well. We can't have plagiarized tutorials and we can't be lazy about this.
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Post #11
payne
Nov 10 2010, 7:33 pm
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I've looked at some (I admit: not all) of our affiliates' tutorials and they aren't as relevant as what I could find over SC2Mapster.
Moreover, linking to an external website isn't plagiarism. Even not mentioning the author of the resource I'm linking to wouldn't be. Anyways... Sorry for not having the time to actually understand and write tutorials as epic as ProzaicMuze's tutorials. ;o I'm already spending a lot of time on SEN, often prioritizing it over school, so asking me to do such a thing is kind of suicidal. Moreover, what's wrong with linking to those sources? And if you know any relevant tutorials from our other affiliate, no one ever retrained you from posting them in the wiki. I do what I think is the best for the wiki's purpose which is to be as complete and relevant as possible. If we're missing an article, I believe setting a temporary link for our users is extremely relevant. @Devlin: Why haven't you deleted 'Movers' and 'Actors' articles as I've recommended you? EDIT: Devlin posted while I was writing the post. If I am to copy-paste a complete tutorial in our wiki, I'd have already asked the permission from the author. I've obtained the agreement of OneTwo and Progammer, and we're waiting for ProzaicMuze's. Obliviron's would be a good deal as well, but no one contacted him. Anyways, my point is that linking to a website isn't plagiarism... where the hell did you find this? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #12
DevliN
Nov 10 2010, 7:36 pm
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Because I'm hoping someone will just write complete articles for them so I don't have to.
EDIT: I didn't say linking to another website was plagiarism. EDIT2: To clarify, I just have an issue with articles like Actors and Movers that just have links to other forums, but I'm also hoping someone either reads the linked tutorials and writes a new article for us or just magically understands the topic really well and writes one from scratch. This sums up my thoughts on it perfectly. This post was edited 1 time, last edit by DevliN: Nov 10 2010, 7:43 pm. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() CURRENTLY WORKING ON Shadowlands | Demonic: Urban Apocalypse Invasion: Ares | Recon | OMG TEH ZOMBIES!!! |
Post #14
payne
Nov 10 2010, 10:09 pm
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http://www.staredit.net/starcraft2/Starter_Guide
There's a lot of links to external source there. If you feel like creating a page to share this link directly into it, go on! I personally believe the fact of seeing a Red Link actually pushes people to write something about it. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #15
DevliN
Nov 10 2010, 10:10 pm
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I don't have an issue with "See Also" sections as I've said before.
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Post #17
payne
Nov 16 2010, 11:19 pm
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1) We've never copy/pasted any of your articles without permission.
2) Our goal here is to create a wiki that isn't owned by any community in itself... which is somewhat the basic purpose of Wikis. Anything in a Wiki should be Open Source and free to use. If you refuse to collaborate, it's alright, but you can't force your members to not authorize us to copy/paste their stuff. If you consider you can say "my wiki", than it's not a wiki, period. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Post #18
DevliN
Nov 16 2010, 11:21 pm
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We aren't copy/pasting any of them, as far as I know. If we do decide to copy/paste any, we have permission from a few authors to do so as long as credit is given to the author. For now, we have a few articles that link to SC2M tutorials in a "See Also" fashion, in case there's something we missed or if someone wants to see the application of a given reference guide.
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Post #20
Cardinal
Nov 17 2010, 12:00 am
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Besides. The articles that are wholly comprised of an SC2Mapster tutorial are only place-holders, until we can find the time to write them up and make them comply to our guidelines (which are still undergoing creation). In 99% of cases we only link to SC2Mapster to provide further information.
What's the beef? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Gone.
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